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Kerry: Chemical Weapons 'Undeniable'
The Weekly Standard ^ | Aug 26, 2013 | DANIEL HALPER

Posted on 08/26/2013 12:38:01 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike

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To: Madam Theophilus

So, the US/UN consortium had this teed up for use.
The statement is “against outside foreign aggression”, and does not provide anything other than verbal cover for the “rebels” having gotten some of either these WMDs (which of course the dems will never acknowledge came from Iraq/Saddam, but they did) OR we supplied them to the rebels (a chilling possibility to “wag the dog” on command).

As bad as it is, the Russians make sense— there are none but civilians in the claims of the use of chem weapons. No dead rebels— interesting enough on its own. This is the kind of thing that has been done in hundreds of past “civil” wars (like in the Balkans, or Katyn Forest in Poland). So we are being sold a bill of goods, with the idiots at the UN as rubber stamp artists. There is no impetus for us to be their other than once again the liberal chicken hawks and their rino pals in the defense industry (McCain pimping for them with Graham). The “rebels” ARE al-qaeda— and there is nothing to support us helping them. Disgusting.


101 posted on 08/26/2013 4:50:40 PM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: kearnyirish2

No, but it should be the anti-war right calling them on the absolute lies that lead from Benghazi, to prop up the Muslim Brotherhood... as US policy. Along with supporting al-qaeda in Syria vs the supposedly greater threat of Iran/shiites? This is the Saudis calling all the shots, and us as mercs for their needs. Jimmy Carter writ large, with a marxist muslim bent with our new mulatto version of him.


102 posted on 08/26/2013 4:53:39 PM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: penelopesire; maggief; advertising guy

Anyone watching Brett Baier? long piece on Syria, especially about all the various rebel groups, their names, what positions they hold, what positions Assad holds (....with maps & graphs-—country map splits Syria nearly in half.

Then to the round table. Not a ripple in anyone’s glass-pond mind that the Obama adm said that they have definitive proof that Assad was responsible for the chem attack-—not in the body of Baier’s prog and not in the round-table discussion.

[IF the adm said “definitive proof,” they said it in an announcement AFTER the Kerry and Carney pressers.]

In fact, Krauthammer had only this to say in the roundtable:

Two choices: “He [Obama] can do a demonstration of conscience or he can do a strategic maneuver. It is not about him; it is not about his conscience, his manhood. It’s not about showing the world that he is strong. This is about whether the US is going to try to alter the course of the war. If it’s not, then he should not do anything....”

Krauthammer then cited and agreed with Gen Keane from earlier in the show-—destroy all the airfields, destroy Assad’s air power, change the balance of power. We can do all that without putting any soldiers on the ground.
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No mention of removing chem weapons!!!

So.... I guess the dream and hope is that the rebels will be so grateful and unified that Assad’s air superiority has been destroyed that they will voluntarily hand over all the chem weapons. Well...”hand over” would require boots on the ground to receive them. We will give them an address and they can ship them to us.


103 posted on 08/26/2013 5:03:33 PM PDT by thouworm (A lawless oligarchy has replaced our Constitution-based govt. Their motto: Catch us if you can.)
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To: ex-snook

Who used wmd? The Al Qaeda or the government fighting the terrorist. They are leaving that out because there is no proof. NONE. We all agree that they were used in the middle of the night but by whom? Assad didn’t need them. His army had routed the Al Qaeda. They were desperate. How can our government lie to us again? This is endless— Gulf of Tonkin— never happened. “WMD” in Iraq never happened. What are these jokers going to do— shoot missiles at chemical stockpiles — what? Shooting missiles at sovereign nations violates the UN charter and international law. This is insanity. What are they doing?


104 posted on 08/26/2013 5:06:46 PM PDT by SADMILLIE (r)
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To: thouworm

let me cogitate that a while


105 posted on 08/26/2013 5:09:10 PM PDT by advertising guy ( Congress should not be afraid of Rush Limbaugh, Congress should be petrified of God)
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To: Hotlanta Mike
AMAZING how quiet the Anti-War liberal left is on yet another pending undeclared war by the Peace Prize President Obama, isn't it??

LBJ went from being a so called great president with the liberals with his war on poverty, which is still being lost, to one of the worse presidents ever after he deepened the Nam War.

Now, Obozoliar appears to be following in the footsteps of LBJ with his lies about Assad and Syria, while covering for the Muslim Brotherhood Thugs and al Queda in Syria.


106 posted on 08/26/2013 5:11:10 PM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Obozoliar and his thugs in his outhouse lie 24/7/365. They are unable to tell the truth.)
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To: RaceBannon
Excellent! Thanks for posting this.


107 posted on 08/26/2013 5:15:34 PM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Obozoliar and his thugs in his outhouse lie 24/7/365. They are unable to tell the truth.)
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To: MestaMachine

Meant to ping you to 103


108 posted on 08/26/2013 5:16:51 PM PDT by thouworm (A lawless oligarchy has replaced our Constitution-based govt. Their motto: Catch us if you can.)
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To: thouworm

Maddening!!

The American people do not want this war...on all sides of the aisle! Yet our media, our leaders do and don’t give a crap what the country wants anymore.

I was reading comments at the NYT article about Kerry’s presser today. 100 posts to 1 do not want this war. Same thing at papers all over the country!


109 posted on 08/26/2013 5:21:02 PM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: penelopesire

I don’t even think the NSA scandals generated such overwhelming opposition with both Dems and Repubs. The people are alarmed and troubled. They sense danger, and Obama adm, Congress and media are saying, “Shush...we know best.”

The whole parade today was to get the poll numbers up. THAT’s what is disturbing Obama. He needs to get the numbers against intervention in Syria to shift. 60-70% against. Don’t think Obama will give the go til those poll numbers shift.


110 posted on 08/26/2013 5:32:34 PM PDT by thouworm (A lawless oligarchy has replaced our Constitution-based govt. Their motto: Catch us if you can.)
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To: thouworm; penelopesire

Baier’s Round Table was disappointing.

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OutFrontCNN @OutFrontCNN 1h

#BREAKING: An official tells @CNN: The U.S. could strike #Syria “within hours”


111 posted on 08/26/2013 5:49:38 PM PDT by maggief
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To: maggief

“Baier’s Round Table was disappointing.”

Same word in my mind. Whole prog, in fact, re: Syria coverage. Breakdown of rebels was interesting-—but no mention of MB. She did provide a logical reason why Assad might use chem weapons, but not strong enough IMO.


112 posted on 08/26/2013 6:07:21 PM PDT by thouworm (A lawless oligarchy has replaced our Constitution-based govt. Their motto: Catch us if you can.)
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To: Hotlanta Mike
I've been listening to reports out of the Middle East. While there is no denying WMDs were used, what's not clear is who used them.

Either one of two things happened.

1). Assad did indeed use them and he needs to be held accountable.

2). The rebels used them and made it look like Assad used them just to pull other nations into the battle. In this case, the rebels need to be held accountable for their actions.

There is no way to determine either conclusion, at this point in time, because the evidence that could point to either one has been destroyed. However, many are asking why Assad would use WMDs if he is winning the war, which by all accounts he is.

This war will end tragically for someone, but I hope our forces are not drawn into what could become a full blown out regional war, especially in the light of Biblical prophesy and what the Bible says will surely happen to anyone who tries to oppress or attack Israel, who we all know will also be drawn into the battle.

113 posted on 08/26/2013 6:07:35 PM PDT by ducttape45
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To: maggief; thouworm

Just read on CBS that Obama has ordered a declassified brief to be made to public before any strike.

Meanwhile saw this flashback:

John Kerry calls Asaad his good friend...lol

http://weaselzippers.us/2013/08/26/151621/


114 posted on 08/26/2013 6:27:33 PM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: penelopesire; thouworm

“Just read on CBS that Obama has ordered a declassified brief to be made to public before any strike.”

CYA, spin ... and blame Intelligence when the SHTF. Jarrett demanding to insulate the One.


115 posted on 08/26/2013 6:47:03 PM PDT by maggief
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To: Venturer
Yes he indeed is... and he is also an elitist, tax cheating, pos communist... but why mince words? ;-)
116 posted on 08/26/2013 6:49:54 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: ducttape45

Here’s a story someone floated earlier. Don’t know what to think of this.

http://web.archive.org/web/20130129213824/http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2270219/U-S-planned-launch-chemical-weapon-attack-Syria-blame-Assad.html

“U.S. ‘backed plan to launch chemical weapon attack on Syria and blame it on Assad’s regime’” From January, 2013.

I don’t like how this portrays the US. Still, the story is out there, probably not accurate.


117 posted on 08/26/2013 6:58:33 PM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: BeadCounter

Oh forget that story, it’s infowars, not saying everything infowars publishes is wrong but usually, I have serious doubts on what they say. Sorry all.


118 posted on 08/26/2013 7:00:20 PM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: John S Mosby

I wonder whether the President misjudged Assad’s willingness to use chemical weapons. Certainly responding so forcefully to the first incursion of US trained troops would have quite a chilling effect on the further deployment of these troops into the area.

That there were civilian casualties in a chemical attack around Damascus would not be surprising given that gas is very hard to deploy accurately. Perhaps I am too cynical, but just because only civilian bodies were ‘found’ doesn’t mean they were the only ones killed. Newspaper accounts said the area was cleaned up before the UN even got to the location.

However, now we stand at the razor’s edge - is the US and NATO going to openly attack Syria, whose military is well armed and disciplined (in contrast to Libya)? Iran has already made known they will come to Syria’s aid if they are attacked.

It’s a sorry mess and BOTH political parties are up to their ears in it. You’re right. It is disgusting.


119 posted on 08/26/2013 7:33:09 PM PDT by Madam Theophilus
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To: Hotlanta Mike





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120 posted on 08/26/2013 7:55:52 PM PDT by devolve (----- ----- ----- it not unlegal iffen I do`s it ----- ----- -----)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

No, he knows this because he served in Vietnam. I think he did, I’m not sure.

The faint smell of napalm across the sea from 70 miles away makes him an expert.


121 posted on 08/26/2013 8:49:43 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (I don't always drink beer, but when I do, I prefer to drink a bunch of them. Stay thirsty my FRiends)
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To: penelopesire; maggief; thouworm

Something to think about. WE know, or at least I AM 99% certain, that gaddafy was attacked, (instigated by France,) for the billions in gold boullion that France stole from its own treasury and made a deal with gaddafy to hide, but gaddafy refused to give it back to them. They followed convoys of trucks to several different countries including Nigeria looking for it but NEVER FOUND IT.
Did he manage to get it into Syria?


122 posted on 08/26/2013 10:30:08 PM PDT by MestaMachine (My caps work, You gotta earn them.)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

All of a sudden kerry is a ferocious hawk.


123 posted on 08/26/2013 10:46:04 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: John S Mosby

An attack by Obama on Syra, in light of the fallout from the destabilizing overthrow of the Iraqi government, would end any speculation that Obama brought any change at all.


124 posted on 08/27/2013 3:29:36 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Hotlanta Mike
Kerry: Chemical Weapons 'Undeniable'

So they finally acknowledge Saddam Hussein's WMDs exist and were shipped to Syria?

125 posted on 08/27/2013 4:19:58 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: chessplayer

All of a sudden kerry is a ferocious hawk.


But he’s still the same old liar...

Syria accuses Kerry of lying, disregarding UN

http://news.yahoo.com/syria-accuses-kerry-lying-disregarding-un-090217526.html


126 posted on 08/27/2013 5:12:10 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: kearnyirish2

Especially lends credence to the fact the WMDs which these very same liberal dems say “were never found” by the GWB admin. Well, where do they think the Syrians got the chem weapons? An entire cover up by the same UN that is now “inspecting” for them.

This all inside the Beltway military industrial complex (which Eisenhower eloquently warned about) is continuing this farce. Even to the point of “accepting” Syrian refugees (in whose midst no doubt are Iranian agents). Carrying on a proxy war on Iran (whose nukes we were assured were not ready “yet”). A kabuki theater of lying rubber stamping “consortium” of an elite of UK, US UN dancers with strings pulled by House of Saud, Jordan and Israel.


127 posted on 08/27/2013 6:36:56 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: ex-snook

It could also be that the ci-Qaedas used them and made it look like Bashtatrd Assad did...


128 posted on 08/27/2013 6:46:08 AM PDT by BigEdLB (Now there ARE 1,000,000 regrets - but it may be too late.)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

YouTube video to blame?


129 posted on 08/27/2013 5:29:41 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Josa

Exactly. Strange how the media is treading lightly on finding out how these chemical weapons ended up in Syria in the first place.


130 posted on 08/27/2013 8:30:03 PM PDT by dowcaet
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To: Michael.SF.

Why do you even attempt to defend a RAT bastard liar & traitor like John Eff’n Kerry? He had 3 self-inflicted superficial wounds & then shot a Vietnamese boy in the back, so he could then hightail it out of Vietnam after only a couple of months there. He is a traitor, a coward & a liar. And deserves to be in prison (or worse) for treason & negotiating with the enemy while still in the military.


131 posted on 08/27/2013 8:34:11 PM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: rcrngroup
Kerry is all that you say and more.

But he was in the military and he did serve in Vietnam.

He is not a "chicken hawk", that was my only comment.

132 posted on 08/27/2013 9:54:53 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (0bama lied, Stevens died, now 0bama covers up the lies.)
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To: Izzy Dunne

My garbageman has far more credibility than the horse’s *ss of a Secretary of State the Regime has now.
Talk about a total bozo.
Now we have a VP and SofState of similar types...clowns and total fools.

But the real problem is that people vote for them...idiots voting in idiots.

Sheesh!


133 posted on 08/27/2013 11:45:44 PM PDT by OldArmy52 (The question is not whether Obama ever lies, but whether he ever tells the truth.)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

How many will listen and be swayed by this habitual liar?


134 posted on 08/28/2013 5:42:36 AM PDT by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: Michael.SF.
Kerry is all that you say and more. But he was in the military and he did serve in Vietnam.

He is not a "chicken hawk", that was my only comment.

That's fine, we all have a right to our opinion. The only thing is that liberals & socialist RAT bastard demoRATs NEVER concede or acknowledge ANY good thing about conservatives. So why are conservatives (like you & others on this FR website) always so quick to conciliate & offer up some sort of praise somehow, for the RAT bastard traitors (0dumb0, Kerry, Bite-me, Hagel, Hillary, Reid, Pelosi, etc) who are doing everything they possibly can to destroy our country? And we counter with a "well at least he (Kerry) was in the military and did serve in Vietnam".

So what?

He was and is a chicken hawk as well as a chicken shit, for shooting a Vietnamese boy in the back and thus submitting for his own silver star, plus submitting for 3 purple hearts for 3 self-inflicted wounds, one of which was some grains of rice in his ass when he blew up a rice container. Kerry negotiated with the enemy while still in uniform, he lied & maligned our own troops in Vietnam, lied about being in Cambodia, and now all of a sudden is agitating for a democRAT war against Syria, and this somehow redeems the bastard traitor?

I won't offer up any praise for Kerry or any other RAT bastard demoRAT. We are at war with these people, the liberals & democRAT socialists, and there is no common ground between us nor any reason to offer them any sort of praise. I look forward to seeing them all roast in Hell for eternity.

135 posted on 08/28/2013 10:31:57 AM PDT by rcrngroup
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