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NYPD cops say they won't go above and beyond the call of duty over 'stop-frisk' lawsuit risks
NYP ^ | August 24, 2013 | DANA SAUCHELLI, JAMIE SCHRAM and NATASHA VELEZ

Posted on 08/24/2013 4:55:00 PM PDT by Daffynition

Nypd beat cops posted a police-union warning in every precinct yesterday instructing officers not to go above and beyond the call of duty — or risk losing their jobs because of the new stop-and-frisk laws, The Post has learned.

“All officers should take action if he or she sees a crime in progress, or if he or she sees that his or her life or the life of another person is in danger . . . [But] all officers should be careful not to initiate any law-enforcement action that could be construed as violating the new legislation and subject the officer to legal action,” read the memo by Patrolmen’s Benevolent Association president Patrick Lynch.

Several rank-and-file cops said yesterday that they plan on following Lynch’s advice rather than risk their careers.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; US: New York
KEYWORDS: blackkk; florida; fnyc; georgezimmerman; leo; nyc; nypd; trayvonmartin
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To: qaz123

**Remember the high crime days under Mayor David Dinkins in which New York suffered with a murder rate that ran from 2,300 to 2,600 murders A YEAR! That’s the way the city used to be.

But, progressives gladly exchange the safety of all New Yorkers just to get votes from blacks and Hispanics who are trained to vote only Democrat! If this city votes in a Democrat mayor then the blood is on their hands. A vote for a Democrat is a vote for crime–pure and simple!**
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I refuse to spend my tourist dollars in NYC...I’ll go elsewhere. I can’t carry there, to protect myself and family and a cop is going to be looking the other way. I won’t open myself up to the added danger. So long NY...it was great while it lasted.


21 posted on 08/24/2013 6:33:06 PM PDT by Daffynition (Life's short- paddle hard!)
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To: rawcatslyentist; Vendome

Cops on the beat already have the following mountain of oversight:

* Civilian Complaint Review Board: Investigates complaints of alleged misconduct with subpoena power.

* Commission to Combat Police Corruption: City agency that monitors and evaluates anti-corruption programs and practices.

* NYPD Internal Affairs Bureau: Reviews allegations of police misconduct and can recommend disciplinary action.

* NYPD Quality Assurance Division: Monitors compliance with department procedures through audits.

* Investigation Review Section: Part of the NYPD Chief of Patrol’s Office, investigates complaints not handled by IAB and CCRB.

* Prosecutors: The city’s five district attorneys, two US attorneys and the state attorney general have jurisdiction to conduct criminal investigations into allegations of police wrongdoing.

* Justice Department Civil Rights Division: Prosecutes allegations of police misconduct relating to civil-rights violations. Supervisors: Sergeants, lieutenants, precinct integrity officers and precinct commanders all review and evaluate the performance of officers.

A federal judge and the City Council have added these two extra layers of oversight:

* Inspector General: Investigates and reviews NYPD operations, policies and practices, including stop-andfrisk.

* Federal monitor (Peter Zimroth): Oversees compliance of a federal judge’s ruling reining in stopand-frisk, including training, supervision,monitoring and discipline.


22 posted on 08/24/2013 6:36:23 PM PDT by Daffynition (Life's short- paddle hard!)
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To: Alberta's Child

You side with the Trayvons and the thugs who killed the Australian young man and the American old man and the baby in its crib?
You side with the gangbanger killers who have no right to carry but in NYC do, and will now more often since they know the cops have been ordered to comply with this official policy of `salutary neglect’.
So now NYC will likely become like Chicago—a killing field, because the thugs will be packing without fear of being arrested. At least they should continue to shoot one another, if the Chicago model rings true.
But the important thing is—you see no difference between say, FReepers—us—and gangbangers, and you don’t credit the police with having enough common sense to tell the difference?
Man, I find that baffling. Maybe it’s because you’re from up north .... the Constitution isn’t a suicide pact, AC.


23 posted on 08/24/2013 6:46:35 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: RIghtwardHo

“The stop and frisk is basic Police State BS. It should not be supported at all.”

Yes, I agree, I would not tolerate being accosted on the street for a pat down, but then again we don’t have Feral Blacks prowling our neighborhood either. So while I think the Constitution should prevail, in NYC, there is going to be bloodshed without question. Oh well, the folks in Harlem and the Bronx got what they wanted, let’s just see how it all turns out.


24 posted on 08/24/2013 6:47:52 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: vette6387

“Yes, I agree, I would not tolerate being accosted on the street for a pat down,”

Of course that’s not what was going on in NYC...the renaming is just agitprop.


25 posted on 08/24/2013 6:57:37 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Daffynition

Instead of stripping citizens of their 4th, why don’t we reinstate thier 2nd. The Constitution works every time. We don’t need unconstitutional stop and frisk, we need law abiding citizens to be able to shoot thugs that try to harm them. New York is its own crown of thorns.


26 posted on 08/24/2013 6:57:54 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: tumblindice
Baloney.

If there are "gangbang killers" on the streets of NYC they belong in prison or in a morgue, not walking around waiting to be frisked.

No, I don't credit the police with anything. I've been around long enough to know better than that.

And no, I'm not from "up north," either.

27 posted on 08/24/2013 7:00:17 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I've never seen such a conclave of minstrels in my life.")
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To: goodwithagun; tumblindice
Instead of stripping citizens of their 4th, why don’t we reinstate [their] 2nd.

Exactly. I see no reason to side with a totalitarian mayor who considers soft drinks, trans-fats, and firearms in the hands of law-abiding citizens to be public enemies.

28 posted on 08/24/2013 7:02:48 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I've never seen such a conclave of minstrels in my life.")
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To: Alberta's Child

What’s really disgusting is I just posted about “reinstating” something that is God given and therefore inalienable. Frightening.


29 posted on 08/24/2013 7:09:09 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: goodwithagun

does no one see the root of the problem?! Quotas!

ignorant blind sheeple. tisk tisk...

when i was told they wanted 5 stop and frisk reports a month i gave them five stop and frisk reports.

i wasnt racially profiling... i was filling my illegally demanded quota! and take note, those stop and frisk quotas only get pushed in busy crime ridden commands, and sorry to say those commands are mainly minority communities.

quotas you fools! now they just want more cell phone summonses.... dont orget to wear your seat blt loosers. stop the quotas.


30 posted on 08/24/2013 7:35:07 PM PDT by nypdbill
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To: qaz123
The people who live on the Upper East Side and all the other very very affluent areas of NYC are not going to be affected by this policy. Unless, the bad guys start committing crimes in those neighborhoods. But, more than likely they will not as they know that upon getting caught, things will be much worse for them. No one cares if Drug Dealer #1 kills Drug Dealer #2. But, if Robber #! kills some high society type, holy moly.

Remember the wealthy woman who had a shopping cart dropped on her from several floors up, causing her to suffer brain damage and lose sight in one eye? The culprits got 6 months in juvie.

31 posted on 08/24/2013 8:03:58 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Daffynition

“..If they’re not going to stop me, I’m going to start carrying [my gun] again...”

Then so should citizens.


32 posted on 08/24/2013 8:20:43 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Daffynition

Funny, the representatives of the people who are most at risk (those living in the high crime areas) are the ones who pushed for these new regulations the most.

The cops who patrol those areas will also be more at risk of getting shot at.

I don’t think those areas should receive any police protection. Let the cops stay out and let the residents who pushed for these laws kill each other. Less stress on the welfare budget.


33 posted on 08/24/2013 8:30:17 PM PDT by BusterBear
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To: Daffynition
‘If they’re not going to stop me, I’m going to start carrying [my gun] again.’

Will guy you just passed on the street, the one you once would have stopped and frisked, be the one to put a bullet between your shoulder blades?

34 posted on 08/24/2013 8:40:26 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Kill Obamacare not wound it.)
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To: BusterBear
I don’t think those areas should receive any police protection. Let the cops stay out and let the residents who pushed for these laws kill each other. Less stress on the welfare budget.

Sure, as long as police agree to abide by the Second Amendment.

Last I heard,though, NYPD was enforcing NYC's gun laws.

35 posted on 08/24/2013 8:59:30 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: Daffynition

Bad ROE.....just like our military. I hope they have the same ROE when they come after the citizens.


36 posted on 08/24/2013 11:58:29 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (When you vote for evil because you can't see evil, you ARE evil.)
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To: Alberta's Child
Exactly. I find it baffling that so many people here on FreeRepublic would come down on the side of Mayor Michael “Police State” Bloomberg on this issue.

Exactly. It's shocking how many "conservatives" are willing to enable an intrusive, bigger government so long as that government is wearing a badge.
37 posted on 08/25/2013 1:13:09 AM PDT by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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To: lepton; vette6387
“Yes, I agree, I would not tolerate being accosted on the street for a pat down,”

Of course that’s not what was going on in NYC...the renaming is just agitprop.


That's exactly what we're talking about here - a policy in which innocent people are stopped on the street by the police and searched. The fact that only around 12% of these stops resulted in the cops finding anything at all tells us how abhorrent the practice is, not to mention how ineffectual.

Read that again - 88% of the people being stopped are innocent victims of an out-of-control police state. They walk away from their "encounter" without an arrest or summons, and likely without any respect for the police.

This isn't a 2nd Amendment question so much as it is a 4th Amendment one. In our country, we do not let the government presume us all criminals until we prove otherwise.
38 posted on 08/25/2013 1:20:50 AM PDT by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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To: Daffynition

NYC has plenty of people. If a bunch get wasted due to this policy, there will still be plenty to fill their places.


39 posted on 08/25/2013 1:43:34 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (Actually, they lie when it suits them! The crooked MS media must be defeated any way it can be done!)
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To: Daffynition

It’s the “Stop, QUESTION and Frisk” law. About 5% are “frisked”. “Profiling”-— 2 white, young men, in a BMW, with New Jersey plates, IN HARLEM, at 1 AM. You think maybe something is wrong with this picture? So would any cop and would stop and question the people in the auto.


40 posted on 08/25/2013 5:25:17 AM PDT by capt B
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