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Ignoring Qualms, Some Republicans Nurture Dreams of Impeaching Obama
NY Times ^ | Aug 24, 2013 | By JENNIFER STEINHAUER

Posted on 08/24/2013 2:44:53 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

WASHINGTON — Representative Kerry Bentivolio, a freshman Republican from Michigan, has a legislative dream. It is not to balance the federal budget, or find a way to help his ailing state or even take away money from the federal health care program, a goal that has so animated many other Republicans this summer.

Rather, Mr. Bentivolio told constituents, it is to put in motion the impeachment of President Obama. “If I could write that bill and submit it, it would be a dream come true,” he said this month.

Mr. Bentivolio may be lacking in his understanding of the technical details of the impeachment process — he has retained experts and historians to help him with that, he said — but he is hardly the only one with this desire.

While many members of Congress have used their August break to engage in conversations about immigration policy, the federal budget and the impending implementation of the Affordable Care Act, some Republicans have taken the opportunity to raise the specter of — if not quite the grounds for — presidential impeachment.

At least two other House Republicans told voters this month that the impeachment process could happen. And last week, Senator Tom Coburn, an Oklahoma Republican who has called himself a friend of the president, told constituents that the nation was “perilously close” to an impeachment situation.

Senator Ted Cruz, Republican of Texas, lamented to one voter who asked about the prospect of impeachment that the Senate, controlled by Democrats, would probably not yield the needed votes for conviction. (This logic has not impeded Mr. Cruz from seeking to stop a short-term spending bill unless money is drained from the health care program.)

There is also a grass-roots movement in which citizens across the nation have been hanging signs on overpasses...

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: benghazi; fastandfurious; highcrimes; impeach; impeachnow; impeachobama; irs; misdemeanors; obama; treason
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1 posted on 08/24/2013 2:44:53 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson

Don’t jaw about it! Just do it!

Rid America of its cancerous growth ensconced in the White Hut!


2 posted on 08/24/2013 2:47:51 PM PDT by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Because impeaching Clinton really showed him.


3 posted on 08/24/2013 2:48:36 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: Jim Robinson

Dreaming won’t get the job done!!! Get off your butt and get the job done!!


4 posted on 08/24/2013 2:48:57 PM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: Jim Robinson

NYT trying to make R’s look bad.

They have nothing good or interesting to write about their team.


5 posted on 08/24/2013 2:49:24 PM PDT by Finalapproach29er (luke 6:38)
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To: Jim Robinson

could it just possibly be moving forward?
if the NYTimes (of all media) has noticed it,....??????

do you think Boehner and Company have suddenly figured out how to grow the requisite anatomical parts, or will they just sit there and serve as his Rubber Stamp Brigade for the next 3 years, or?


6 posted on 08/24/2013 2:50:15 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (E)
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To: Jim Robinson

But if the Senate doesn’t have a GOP majority, he won’t be convicted.


7 posted on 08/24/2013 2:50:36 PM PDT by Signalman
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To: Jim Robinson
It is all talk.

The US Congress is too busy
keeping the borders open,
failing to make, or keep, a budget,
failing to protect the Homeland,
arming al Qaeda,
protecting the Moslem Brotherhood,
funding IRS and NSA Atrocities,
and egregiously making "laws" for everyone but themselves and their staff.

8 posted on 08/24/2013 2:51:07 PM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: Jim Robinson

They’ve relinquished their right to declare war, or to withdraw funding from illegally declared wars. What makes anyone think they will impeach Obama, or that, if impeached, he would actually be convicted by a Democratically controlled Senate?

The rule of law is no longer applicable in the tribal USA.


9 posted on 08/24/2013 2:52:27 PM PDT by LachlanMinnesota
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To: Jim Robinson
Stopping Osama Obama Care and amnesty are both worth going to the wall for.Impeaching Osama Obama would be sweet but I have a better chance of being declared Pope than does Osama Obama have of actually being *removed from office* before his term expires.
10 posted on 08/24/2013 2:54:20 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (If Obama Had A City It Would Look Like Detroit)
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To: elpadre
Dreaming won’t get the job done!!! Get off your butt and get the job done!!

I second that.

11 posted on 08/24/2013 2:59:32 PM PDT by Standing Wolf (No tyrant should ever be allowed to die of natural causes.)
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To: Diogenesis

Well said.


12 posted on 08/24/2013 3:02:14 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: Jim Robinson

13 posted on 08/24/2013 3:03:05 PM PDT by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: Jim Robinson

14 posted on 08/24/2013 3:05:14 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: Jim Robinson
Senator Ted Cruz, Republican of Texas, lamented to one voter who asked about the prospect of impeachment that the Senate, controlled by Democrats, would probably not yield the needed votes for conviction. (This logic has not impeded Mr. Cruz from seeking to stop a short-term spending bill unless money is drained from the health care program.)

But, but impeaching President Obama would probably have the same impact and effect of impeaching Clinton and Holden. Impeaching a Democrat does nothing; it is a badge of courage to them is it not?

Our country has been taken over by the low information voter. The Democrats help them to connect the dots. Rational, common sense voters are in the minority. We are doomed!

15 posted on 08/24/2013 3:08:28 PM PDT by olezip (Time obliterates the fictions of opinion and confirms the decisions of nature. ~ Cicero)
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To: IbJensen

X-rays of his head revealed nothing.


16 posted on 08/24/2013 3:08:57 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: olezip

Get his impeachable offenses on the congressional record. Keep adding to it as we go.


17 posted on 08/24/2013 3:10:34 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

The minute we impeach him, he becomes “martyr-ized.”

I just want to see him become more and more diminished, incompetent, and irrelevant. I want him to become a parody of himself. I want him to be a forever embarrassment to himself and this country.

I want history to demean him into nothingness - a mere blip in the historical record noted only for his skin color and affirmative action.


18 posted on 08/24/2013 3:24:46 PM PDT by A'elian' nation ("Political Correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred." Jacques Barzun)
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To: Jim Robinson

Can we still waterboard him though? Please?


19 posted on 08/24/2013 3:27:38 PM PDT by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Get his impeachable offenses on the congressional record. Keep adding to it as we go.

That sounds so "Constitutional!" I guess that we should keep fighting, and adding to the wretched record of failure. It would be good reading. Maybe it would eventually wake up some of our lawmakers.

20 posted on 08/24/2013 3:30:44 PM PDT by olezip (Time obliterates the fictions of opinion and confirms the decisions of nature. ~ Cicero)
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To: Jim Robinson

My dream too, impeach the bastard, convict and put him in prison along with that thief of a wife!


21 posted on 08/24/2013 3:31:02 PM PDT by Lucky2 (I'm a confederate, creepy ass cracker and proud of it.)
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To: Jim Robinson

What better way to cover up Bengahzi, Fast and furious, IRS, Wind and Solar panel gate, NSA spying on US, Over-riding the constittution? Don’t look into who accompaines Obama on his many trips around the world at taxpayer expence ? Were they the heavy hitters or their friends holding the president’s hand isn’t that pay back at US taxpayer expence?. Isn’t that an impeachable offense ??

Now if somebody even suggests impeachment. Get to your black base voters, whom you’ve done nothing for,.all worked up. Pick on some security guard who’s doing his job. Accuse him of being racist ,even though he is part black..But his last name sounds “jewish.”Who’s doing surveilance in an mixed race area of modest means a where there’s been robberies and burgalries by young blacks.

Now call that surveilance stalking, the area he’s patrolling owned by rich whities,and the guard of course he’s white.That person he’s watching a 10 year old black kid and a saint ,not six foot two 165 pound 16 year old, who gets killed fighting over a gun. .

Now paint a target on the security guards back .Ain’t that neat ? What better way to discourage any investigation into malfeasance and corruption by organizing the base for riots in the streets ? Think it’s too far fetched ? Think it’s not working ? Look again http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3051558/posts

To date the political opposition known as Republican has yet to mention or comment on this example of how this regime operates. Time to ask them why ?

The person working security was attacked on private rights of way while on foot who discontinued an observation and was returing to his vehicle after being suggested by the police to do so.

Legally he could have approached Saint Trayvon but didn’t..The hooded tall figure was allowed to continue on his way.unimpeded. But didn’t. That figure turned out to be a Martin Trayvon who doubled back and attacked the “neighborhood watch” worker as he was returing to his vehicle. Knocked him to the ground and began beating him severly.

Saint Trayvon, the attacker, was subsequently killed in a struggle over the Neighborhood Watchman’s legal pistol.

The facts of this case are still being shamefully being concealed by the media to the extent they are advancing and are complicit in permitting a putrid injstice of the worst order,organized and instituted by our governent, to be committed .

While denied. It began as a miscalculation when a surname of a Jewish origin shot up and lighted the heavens like a star shell in the darkest of nights. It would have been difused if the media used pictures of both side by side because they look like cousins. And the area where this occured of paycheck to paycheck struggling homeowners of all races trying to protect themselves had been reported and not some ritzy all white enclave.they portrayed..

Worse yet the media is still pilling it on with ABC editing a a black jury members (remember when they were all white)t remarks to make it sound like she accused Zimmerman of murder .

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3048225/posts http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3048631/posts

The result as we have seen is that another marxist axiom (division) has been implemented which has resulted with gangs of black youths murdering happless whites and “hispanics” who happen into areas usually where a black population is the majority.

Those media outlets who by their delberate misuse of the instrument of the 1st amendment are just as complicit in those deaths as the regime is. Other forms of media particularly the black media had the duty but not the obligation to verify and report factually. But instead quoted the reports from various “mainlining” socialist media sources:

Some examples here all of which serve the first purpose of selecting Zimmerman as the target. What is the result ? Black youths believing they would get top level peer approval began attacking happless white and hispanics which may have wandered into their area which resulted in murders or serious injury. In some cases actually stalked their white victims.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3050362/posts http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3051180/posts http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3053410/posts http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3054544/posts http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3051488/posts http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3053620/posts http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3053643/posts http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3053332/posts http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3051525/posts http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3051108/posts http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3050590/posts http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3049789/posts

In reality those victims are the martyrs to the cause of American socialism.,and the political opposition still remains silent and says nothing..

If early on some of those so called conservative talk show hosts had interviewed guests who run such watches and had the courage to fight PC and defend Zimmerman they would have exposed the regime and the media for the frauds they are. This would not have gone this far.

Instead of “milking this” accepting black callers but allowing them to mis-state the facts such as as Martin was “stalked” or Martin was “stopped” and “questioned” when there was no right to do so. Instead these hosts failed to stop them, cite the simple facts outlined and documented here,but allowed the callers miss-conceptions go unchallanged. When they could have cited examples of policy or corruption let alone ask them what has Obama done for you? Or even dismiss them as unfortunately being used and deliberately mis-informed..

You are encouraged to Print up or email -pass it on....Why ? Time to expose citizens to the face the facts If it suits their purposes this regime and its adhearants will paint a target on their back. Wether it’s a black hispanic who gets turned in a “white hispanic” or union members losing their health care benefits if Obamacare gets funded.


22 posted on 08/24/2013 3:31:45 PM PDT by mosesdapoet (Serious contribution pause.Please continue onto meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: Jim Robinson

If the republicants take control of the Senate in 2014, all this talk of impeachment will stop immediately.


23 posted on 08/24/2013 3:34:05 PM PDT by Hugh the Scot
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To: Hugh the Scot

you better believe it. all of a sudden the new meme will resort back to reaching across the aisle and bipartisonship. We are being played by both sides.


24 posted on 08/24/2013 3:59:17 PM PDT by Blue Highway
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To: IbJensen

maybe just drag him behind the boat for a bit


25 posted on 08/24/2013 4:11:24 PM PDT by bigheadfred (INFIDEL)
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To: Jim Robinson
12 Reasons for Impeachment
26 posted on 08/24/2013 4:32:46 PM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Jim Robinson

Richard Nixon was impeached for less.


27 posted on 08/24/2013 5:22:04 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The case against Obama is far more substantive. Therefore, while the effort might not be successful, it would be educational.The public has not been informed about the way that Obama has ignored his duties to enforce the laws he does not like..


28 posted on 08/24/2013 5:32:23 PM PDT by RobbyS
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To: Hugh the Scot

It is then that it should go forward, of course. What we are confronted by is caesarism.


29 posted on 08/24/2013 5:34:53 PM PDT by RobbyS
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To: RobbyS
The public has not been informed about the way that Obama has ignored his duties to enforce the laws he does not like...

So the captive press is suddenly going to start telling the truth during impeachment proceedings?

They'll dredge up a thousand Paula Deen stories to bury the impeachment story, just like they always do.

30 posted on 08/24/2013 5:37:05 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Of course they will bury it, as best they can, but Impeachment is drama, and they like drama. What it can do is suggested by the case of Andrew Johnson: it can make the president come out of his castle. It can reduce the prestige of his office. But it does take courage; it must have prosecutors with nerves of steel.


31 posted on 08/24/2013 5:46:39 PM PDT by RobbyS
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To: RobbyS
I don't see McConnell or Boner going anywhere near the issue. Ever. No matter how richly deserved.
32 posted on 08/24/2013 5:48:34 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: A'elian' nation

That depends on the issue. Johnson did not became a martyr, and him until the time of TR and Wilson, the office of President was reduced to the Whig concept of it.


33 posted on 08/24/2013 5:51:21 PM PDT by RobbyS
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Neither man will lead, but events may make them follow.


34 posted on 08/24/2013 6:03:41 PM PDT by RobbyS
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To: Hugh the Scot

If the gop wing of the uniparty still exists in 2016, I’m sure they’ll be talking about impeachment, their dreams of adding a bunch of amendments to the Constitution, or how wonderful they were to implement amnesty to show how sweet and lovable they are to folks who will never vote for them.


35 posted on 08/24/2013 6:23:31 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Power disintegrates when people withdraw their obedience and support)
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To: Blue Highway

This is the reality we face. There is nobody in Washington who is consistently interested in CONSTITUTIONAL government; and even fewer in the general populace who are interested in seeing their pet programs get the ax to get there. We have two statist parties. The republican’ts would be far to worried about their relationship with big business and the press to ever impeach and convict our first affirmative action pres__ent.


36 posted on 08/24/2013 6:29:02 PM PDT by Hugh the Scot
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To: RobbyS

OweBowMao is the issue.

He will be martyred if you look at him cross-eyed, because he is the first Black president after Clinton.

The minute he is impeached, the media will demand he be chiseled onto Mt. Rushmore. We live in different times from the days of Andrew Johnson when at least reason prevailed.

I just want him to sink into utter insignificance and total disrepute. I want his name cursed under every breath for what he has done to this country. I want him to feel the shame and dishonor to which he is entitled.


37 posted on 08/24/2013 6:34:13 PM PDT by A'elian' nation ("Political Correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred." Jacques Barzun)
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To: A'elian' nation

It depends on events. I have this bad,bad feeling that we are sailing into dangerous waters with an incompetent captain.


38 posted on 08/24/2013 6:48:50 PM PDT by RobbyS
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To: Signalman

It would probably take 65 republican senators to convict obama. If they had 51 the votes it would probably be around 10 for conviction. Most will vote to aquit unless they’re absolutely positive they have the votes to convict. Very few will stand on principles.


39 posted on 08/24/2013 7:23:50 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (When you vote for evil because you can't see evil, you ARE evil.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Nothing Venture Nothing Gained!


40 posted on 08/24/2013 8:02:07 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey (Block Captain..Tyranny Response Team / al-Kilab Division)
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To: RobbyS

Incompetent? He may be indeed incompetent, but his goal is to destroy the USA and empower radical Islam. He’s done a good job with both of those tasks. Oh, and homo-ize the country, neuter the military (ours), etc. Done good there too.


41 posted on 08/24/2013 8:14:07 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: A'elian' nation

He’s a criminal.

Criminals should face charges. Why should he not?


42 posted on 08/24/2013 8:14:51 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Signalman
But if the Senate doesn’t have a GOP majority, he won’t be convicted.

And if the Senate DID have a GOP majority, he wouldn't be convicted either.

43 posted on 08/24/2013 8:17:27 PM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: Jim Robinson

I sent REp. Ander Crenshaw and email today demanding that he initiate Articles of Impeachment!

We must impeach, convict and imprison Ophonybama!


44 posted on 08/24/2013 8:36:24 PM PDT by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Because impeaching Clinton really showed him.

Interesting concept - doing the right thing failed before so let's just ignore what's right and fugetaboutit...

45 posted on 08/25/2013 5:19:30 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: trebb
Interesting concept - doing the right thing failed before so let's just ignore what's right and fugetaboutit...

Interesting concept - doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results... the very definition of insanity.

The place to focus our efforts is where they might actually do some good, such as cracking down on Democrat election fraud by requiring voter id and then going after Holder when he goes after Texas for requiring Supreme Court-sanctioned voter id.

Put your money where your mouth is: True the Vote

46 posted on 08/25/2013 6:23:51 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: Jim Robinson

this is the group that can’t even muster the courage to defund obama care

there’s no way they’ll ever impeach obama


47 posted on 08/25/2013 7:36:46 AM PDT by Cubs Fan (EVERYTHING IS RACISM!!! except hating whitey)
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To: Jim Robinson

......While the rest of us nurture dreams of a world in which the Slimes having been relegated to the dustbin of history.


48 posted on 08/25/2013 9:38:24 AM PDT by lbryce (The 22nd Amendment Lives:1148 Days Until America's Greatest Nemesis Gets the Heave "Ho")
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To: Gay State Conservative

Work for a republican Senate in 2014-—we CAN get this done.


49 posted on 08/25/2013 3:58:30 PM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: Jim Robinson

I keep saying we need a bill of particulars. Not just wishes and dislikes but “particulars” , specific claims/charges. Maybe there is space on FR to run a page of exact/specific charges, edited and added to as we go? No conversation-—just legitimate charges.

My suggestion for the first item is dereliction of duty for failing to show up in time to help out w/Benghazi. As commander-in-chief he is indeed subject to the charge since another country is involved and action can’t be taken without his order.


50 posted on 08/25/2013 4:11:59 PM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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