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Some NSA Employees Spied on Their Love Interests
The Blaze ^ | Aug. 24, 2013 | Oliver Darcy

Posted on 08/24/2013 6:18:02 AM PDT by xzins

The National Security Agency (NSA) has admitted some of their officers misused the agency’s massive spying powers to keep tabs on their love interests, the Wall Street Journal (WSJ) reported Friday night.

NSA employees reportedly dubbed the practice with its very own spy label: LOVEINT.

U.S. officials said some of the violations included overseas communications, but claimed the practice was “very rare,” according to the WSJ.

Officials reportedly said all employees involved were appropriately disciplined. The incidents were often self-reported, revealed while the officers took polygraph tests during routine security clearance renewals, according to the WSJ.

“NSA has zero tolerance for willful violations of the agency’s authorities,” the NSA said in a statement Friday.

The revelations come in the wake of learning this week that the NSA had violated privacy rules on thousands of occasions. NSA Chief Compliance Officer John DeLong had stressed earlier most violations were unintentional.

Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) told the WSJ that the NSA admitted to the Senate Intelligence Committee policies were violated in a set of “isolated incidents.”

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 1984; loveint; noaccountability; nsa; nsaloveint; nsascandal; surveillance; typicalloveint
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1 posted on 08/24/2013 6:18:03 AM PDT by xzins
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Among the most sinister revelations to date.

NSA Chief Compliance Officer John DeLong had stressed earlier most violations were unintentional.

This was intentional.

It shows they can listen to anybody...and do. Collect anything/everything...and they do.

Wonder if they're the source of Petraeus' "love interest" revelation.

2 posted on 08/24/2013 6:19:42 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins

So Obama actually loves conservatives? I find that hard to believe.


3 posted on 08/24/2013 6:19:54 AM PDT by SC_Pete
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To: xzins

No doubt, just a few “low ranking rogue agents”, right?


4 posted on 08/24/2013 6:20:00 AM PDT by joethedrummer
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To: xzins
“NSA has zero tolerance for willful violations of the agency’s authorities,” the NSA said in a statement Friday.

Does that mean they were fired?

5 posted on 08/24/2013 6:22:30 AM PDT by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: xzins

When I first started working for the telco in the 60’s my boss told us be careful who you listen to because you may not like what you hear.
RE: girlfriends and spouse.


6 posted on 08/24/2013 6:22:42 AM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: xzins

How long before we find out that there were also democrat partisan hacks at NSA spying on political opponents and shuffling info to WH?

My guess is that will be next revelation.


7 posted on 08/24/2013 6:23:30 AM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: xzins

Paging General Petraeus,
Please pick up the red courtesy phone.


8 posted on 08/24/2013 6:24:38 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: Starstruck
disciplined is the word they used about those agents. Probably had to clean the john for a week.
9 posted on 08/24/2013 6:25:18 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Starstruck
Does that mean they were fired?

No, it just means the higher-ups are going to act all indignant and "intolerant".

10 posted on 08/24/2013 6:25:36 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: joethedrummer

Now you know what Joe Biden was so fond of in his basement.

He could request feeds of anyone’s communications.

When you are drunk and bored, it’s hilarious to listen to certain phone calls.


11 posted on 08/24/2013 6:25:42 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: Diogenesis

Absolutely.

The FBI would only say at the time that they had a “source.”


12 posted on 08/24/2013 6:26:40 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins

Every darn day it’s something else. And ti’s worse than the day before...


13 posted on 08/24/2013 6:28:42 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,)
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To: Starstruck

I’m quite certain that if they’d been fired, the NSA would have reported so—but you’re probably quite certain of that too.


14 posted on 08/24/2013 6:29:49 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: xzins

Ya don’t say?


15 posted on 08/24/2013 6:31:09 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: penelopesire

> How long before we find out that there were also democrat partisan hacks at NSA spying on political opponents and shuffling info to WH?

My guess is that will be next revelation.

You know they are. A few taps on the keyboard and you’re in. Just assume it so. You’re not going to be hearing about because the goon squads will be dispatched to “take care of the problem”.


16 posted on 08/24/2013 6:33:54 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Starstruck
Does that mean they were fired?

No, it means they were tolerated. It's NEWSPEAK as outlined by Orwell. Words just mean what they say they mean and it is often the opposite of what it sounds like.

17 posted on 08/24/2013 6:34:16 AM PDT by BipolarBob
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To: xzins
If you get enough "isolated incidents", they aren't so isolated any more.

Power corrupts.

18 posted on 08/24/2013 6:35:33 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: xzins

Wonder if they’re the source of Petraeus’ “love interest” revelation.
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Interesting speculation there. And that raises a related question: Was the IRS ever tasked to “review” his financial interests.


19 posted on 08/24/2013 6:35:33 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: Starstruck

That is my question... otherwise, what does no tolerance mean?


20 posted on 08/24/2013 6:37:24 AM PDT by latina4dubya (when i have money i buy books... if i have anything left, i buy 6-inch heels and a bottle of wine...)
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To: BipolarBob

It likely means they got some extra paid time off.


21 posted on 08/24/2013 6:37:32 AM PDT by wrencher
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To: xzins

> Wonder if they’re the source of Petraeus’ “love interest” revelation.

That and other politicians they needed to bend to their will to get them “in on the program”. Wonder why so many politicians have flipped on issues? This is probably one of them.


22 posted on 08/24/2013 6:37:33 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: xzins

Who was the woman in Florida who seemed to collect high ranking military officers on her social calendar? Likely she was the setup person for compromising a bunch of brass. (Kelly? iirc, although I can’t recall)


23 posted on 08/24/2013 6:38:50 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

Yet, the program has defenders on our side. McCain, Chambliss, King, Boehner, Mike Rogers, Graham, Christie, etc...


24 posted on 08/24/2013 6:41:43 AM PDT by BushCountry (The dentist told me I need a crown. I was like I KNOW, RIGHT?)
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To: Starboard

Well someone fed a bunch of information on Romney to the white-hut. Remember that? Private stuff only the IRS would know.


25 posted on 08/24/2013 6:44:17 AM PDT by esoxmagnum (The rats have been trained to pull the D voting lever to get their little food pellet)
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To: xzins
This was intentional.

It shows they can listen to anybody...and do. Collect anything/everything...and they do.

Yes. It shows that the apparatus to listen to anyone, anywhere, at any time is in place. And that they are willing and able to employ it for legitimate and nefarious purposes.

26 posted on 08/24/2013 6:46:44 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Is John's moustache long enough YET?)
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To: jsanders2001; xzins

Seems most GOP in Congress may be under NSA “watch”...by the way they behave...


27 posted on 08/24/2013 6:48:04 AM PDT by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods.)
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To: xzins
NSA has zero tolerance

I get it now. Zero tolerance has something to do with Obama. Like what would Zero tolerate? In this case I guess Zero was mighty tolerant.

28 posted on 08/24/2013 6:49:40 AM PDT by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Indeed. The “Big Data” analytical tools available today are enormously powerful. Their capabilities are beyond the comprehension of most Americans who don’t keep up with advancements in the information technology field. These tools require careful oversight of their use to avoid “mission creep” and intrusive and unauthorized violations of citizen privacy.

These incidents were bound to happen. But sadly they will continue as bureaucracies are used to operating sub rosa and deceiving congress when necessary.


29 posted on 08/24/2013 6:51:21 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: goodnesswins

Seems most GOP in Congress may be under NSA “watch”...by the way they behave...

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Even if they aren’t, they are nevertheless very fearful of it and acting out of caution.


30 posted on 08/24/2013 6:53:04 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: xzins
It shows they can listen to anybody...and do. Collect anything/everything...and they do.

I agree. They can listen to anybody. It might take a court order in some or most cases and perhaps none in some or all. This is certainly the case. NSA has conceded this point. But the requirements and compliance with court orders is still a bit fuzzy, at least IMHO.

But the idea that they collect "everything" is just nonsense. This assumes they are collecting digitized audio of all the U.S. phone calls and are putting them is a database system that can be searched.

I don't think so. Lots of speculation that they do. No evidence that they have the capability to do it and that they are doing it. If for no other reason it would be a huge waste of resources as well as being against the law.

So if you have some solid evidence, Snowden or otherwise, lets hear it.

31 posted on 08/24/2013 6:54:37 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: xzins
When it comes to the hijinks of the ruling class in this country since the 60s, I used to say, "Life is like high school." The cool kids, the good-looking kids or the kids with wealthy parents, no matter how stupid, have a lot of power, and they call the shots, pick on the hard-working kids and slam some of them into the lockers.

But ever since this Administration has been in power, I've changed it to, "Life is like middle school." It's the cruel onrush of puberty, and the kind of kids who kill small animals or their parents, bully other kids until they commit suicide, steal all the candy and are too immature to work.

32 posted on 08/24/2013 6:55:15 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Remember... the first revolutionary was Satan."--Russian Orthodox Archpriest Dmitry Smirnov)
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To: Starstruck

Zero tolerance has something to do with Obama.
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It all depends on how NSA parses and defines ‘zero tolerance”, just like how they conveniently interpret the word “collection” so as to avoid accountability. This is an agency that is very good at semantics as they have a lot of experience with interpreting words.


33 posted on 08/24/2013 6:56:18 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: Starstruck

“Does that mean they were fired?”

They will likely get a bad review after the investigation, while they are on paid administrative leave, which will be completed in a few months. This will probably have a negative impact on their raise this year. So there!

</barfsarc>


34 posted on 08/24/2013 6:56:34 AM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: xzins; COUNTrecount; Nowhere Man; FightThePower!; C. Edmund Wright; jacob allen; Travis McGee; ...

Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping!

To get onto The Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping List you must threaten to report me to the Mods if I don’t add you to the list...

35 posted on 08/24/2013 6:57:58 AM PDT by null and void (Frequent terrorist attacks OR endless government snooping and oppression? We can have both!)
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To: esoxmagnum

That’s a good point. Romney could do the country a favor by taking on the administration and the IRS over their criminal exploitation of his personal tax information. This abuse of power must end.


36 posted on 08/24/2013 6:59:42 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: xzins
Officials reportedly said all employees involved were appropriately disciplined.

I assume since these boys broke the law they were arrested and tried for a crime...

just kidding

we all know better ...

Or maybe their paychecks were cut..

nope not that either...

How about they were 'told off' with a wink and a nod? Nah - or just the wink and nod? Now we've got it. (Send 'em the bedbug letter)

37 posted on 08/24/2013 7:00:12 AM PDT by GOPJ (- - NSA - The only part of government that actually listens...Joe Kovacs)
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To: xzins

That’s unexpected. Who would have guessed that an immense database tracking every aspect of our lives would be abused?


38 posted on 08/24/2013 7:02:12 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: xzins
Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) told the WSJ that the NSA admitted to the Senate Intelligence Committee policies were violated in a set of “isolated incidents.”

How many isolated incidents does it take to make a "set"? And how many can you have before they aren't isolated anymore?

39 posted on 08/24/2013 7:03:52 AM PDT by Sloth (Rather than a lesser Evil, I voted for Goode.)
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To: BushCountry
Yet, the program has defenders on our side. McCain, Chambliss, King, Boehner, Mike Rogers, Graham, Christie, etc...

NSA spying on American citizens without an individual warrant based on that probable cause has defenders in the Republican Party, but that violation of the Bill of Rights has no defenders on the side of the American people.

40 posted on 08/24/2013 7:04:29 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: InterceptPoint

I think you are being completely naive! And also, since when have you ever known the Govt to NOT waste resources and NOT violate the law?


41 posted on 08/24/2013 7:10:29 AM PDT by Circle_Hook
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To: Starstruck

>> “NSA has zero tolerance for willful violations of the agency’s authorities,” the NSA said in a statement Friday.
>
> Does that mean they were fired?

No. They were “inappropriately using” the agency’s authority, not *violating* it.


42 posted on 08/24/2013 7:11:36 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: goodnesswins
Seems most GOP in Congress may be under NSA “watch”...by the way they behave...

It's been obvious that they must have something on every member of Congress, and certainly on the Supreme Court chief justice. What's sad is that there are so few patriots willing to stand up and say, "I'm being blackmailed, and that fact is more important than whatever sin they want to ruin me with." In that sense, Snowden was a patriot. But then, he was young, unmarried and with no children.

Many of the Founders were hounded to death, had their wealth confiscated, their estates overrun or their families scattered, as did of course the Apostles. It seemed more possible to hold out before there was GPS tracking wherever you flee and listening through the phone in your pocket and the computer on your lap.

Theoretically, these capabilities mean that few business plans, patented products, weapons systems or anything at all is safe from theft. It would require proprietary encryption with servers held offshore; but the real problem is the belief by "government" that "government" is entitled to hack any and all systems, no matter where. Once the "of the people, by the people, for the people idea of government by honor system is destroyed, you automatically have tyranny.


43 posted on 08/24/2013 7:13:28 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Remember... the first revolutionary was Satan."--Russian Orthodox Archpriest Dmitry Smirnov)
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To: Starstruck

Not exactly fired. “Frowned upon” is more like it.


44 posted on 08/24/2013 7:16:48 AM PDT by Romulus
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To: xzins

disciplined and isolated....

Riiiight. Just like the IRS thingy that just went away.


45 posted on 08/24/2013 7:20:51 AM PDT by Cyclone59 (Where are we going, and what's with the handbasket?)
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To: BipolarBob
Words just mean what they say they mean and it is often the opposite of what it sounds like.

You mean like:

The incidents were often self-reported, revealed while the officers took polygraph tests....

46 posted on 08/24/2013 7:24:07 AM PDT by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: xzins
Wonder if they're the source of Petraeus' "love interest" revelation.

And probably the reason Justice Roberts decided that Obamacare was LEGAL.

We have done a lot of research on roberts and HIS WIFE who allegedly adopted two blond IRISH boys without spending a year in IRELAND which is their LAW on Adoption...the two mothers took the babies to Latin America and handed them over to his wife who is a Washington DC attorney...under Irish law the country has the right to demand return of the children...OBAMA and his NSA etc have the power to discover anything about anyone

47 posted on 08/24/2013 7:26:34 AM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: Circle_Hook
I think you are being completely naive! And also, since when have you ever known the Govt to NOT waste resources and NOT violate the law?

Of course they waste resources and violate the law all the time. Is that proof that they have recorded all of your phone calls for the last 10 years?

You simply cannot extrapolate from COULD DO IT AND WOULD LIKE TO DO IT to THEY ARE DOING IT. Even with an obviously corrupt Obama Administration.

And it is never naive to question what look like very foolish statements. People need to prove or least provide some evidence when for their claims.

Here is my problem in a nutshell: There is way, way too much speculation passing for fact here on FR. That is not doing any of us any good. It makes us look foolish and, to use your term, naive.

48 posted on 08/24/2013 7:28:38 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: gov_bean_ counter
Every darn day it’s something else. And ti’s worse than the day before...

Gets worse day by day. And the water in the pot gets warmer and warmer, as the frog gets used to it.

49 posted on 08/24/2013 7:31:45 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: xzins

Give people in power powerful tools and they will use them, errr I mean abuse them.....


50 posted on 08/24/2013 7:47:47 AM PDT by GraceG
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