Skip to comments.Scientist: Al Gore ‘got it wrong’ (Sex Poodle goofed by adding a 6 to hurricane scale)
Posted on 08/22/2013 4:20:27 PM PDT by Libloather
A Union of Concerned Scientists (UCS) expert says Al Gore goofed during his widely circulated Washington Post interview on global warming.
Gore, noting stronger storms fueled by climate change, told the paper the hurricane scale used to be 1-5 and now theyre adding a 6.
But in fact theres no new scale, the Union of Concerned Scientists representative said on Thursday.
He deserves great praise for these Nobel-Peace-Prize-winning efforts. But unfortunately he recently got it wrong about the science of climate change, wrote UCS's Gretchen Goldman in a blog post Thursday about Gores remarks.
There are no plans by the National Hurricane Centerthe federal office responsible for categorizing storms to create a new category, she wrote on the environmental groups website.
Her admonishment is gentle, praising Gore for drawing attention to other "important information" about climate change.
[I]t is worth noting that the rest of the interview included accurate and important information and its unfortunate that this blip made its way in, Goldman writes.
But Goldman, an expert in atmospheric science with a PhD from the Georgia Institute of Technology, also injects a note of caution into the debate about climate and storms:
Though there is some evidence that climate change will influence hurricanes, the effect of climate change on hurricane intensity and hurricane frequency is complex and scientists are continuing to study the connection. Hurricanes in the North Atlantic region have been intensifying over the past 40 years but not elsewhere in the world. By contrast, scientists have high confidence that sea level will rise all over the world, and particularly fast in some areas like the East Coast.
Goldmans post covers a lot of ground, so readers can see it all here.
Gore unilaterally changed the hurricane scale in a much wider interview that also veered into the politics of climate change. E2-Wire covered it here.
Heres what he said about the weather:
If you look at superstorm Sandy on October 29th, the ocean water east of New Jersey was nine degrees fahrenheit above average. Thats what put so much more energy into that storm. Thats what put so much more water vapor into that storm. Would there be a storm anyway? Maybe so. Would there be hurricanes and floods and droughts without man-made global warming? Of course. But theyre stronger now. The extreme events are more extreme. The hurricane scale used to be 1-5 and now theyre adding a 6. The fingerprint of man-made global warming is all over these storms and extreme weather events.
Even more power than almost becoming president?
I hear the volume on Al Gore’s radio goes all the way up to eleven.
Speaking of getting it wrong, has the NOAA ever gotten it right with their fearmongering hurricane predictions every year?
Sandy wasn't even technically a hurricane at landfall. And its winds at landfall were low Cat 1. What made Sandy damaging was its size and timing and angle of approach to the coast.
No need for a Cat 6. Heck, we haven't even had a Cat 3 hit the mainland US for years.
Just beat me while I was looking for images.
A ‘goof’ is an innocent mistake. Gore is a demagogue, and this is his pet cause. ‘Goof’ is too kind a term.
His psuedonym was Mr. Stone for a reason.
The sun rose in the east this morning.
Big Al is still getting his news facts from Mad Magazine.
Algore was confusing the hurricane scale with chakras.
“A Union of Concerned Scientists (UCS) expert says Al Gore goofed during his widely circulated Washington Post interview on global warming.”
Nonsense! Gore didn’t goof, he LIED, lying is the only thing the Gore family excels at.
So sea level is different in different places?
What’s a hurricane?
I can’t remember the last time I even heard about a huriwhatever, and I live in the southeast.
What up wit dat, Mr. Weather Expert AlGore?
“Algore gets it right”.
Now that’s a news story.
The phoniest of all the baloney is this idea of increasing severe weather. I believe it is more the opposite. The only thing that is increasing is the population which places more people in the path of any given severe weather event than in the past.
Anecdotal evidence is always used by the climate change crowd, most of it very contrived evidence. So I shall dish some out the other way.
In 1900, Galveston was largely wiped out by a hurricane and ten thousand people died. Better forecasting today might have reduced that death toll but Galveston would probably still be wiped out (the sea wall they built later was only for half that bad a storm as Ike proved). Conclusion — modern Ike a shadow of the historic storm.
In 1926 and 1928 and again in 1935, Florida was hit by massive killer hurricanes. Hundreds died in each instance. The only comparable storm since then was Andrew in 1992, and a close second from Charley in 2004. Yet the climate change crowd only mention Andrew and Charlie. What’s up with that? (what’s up with that?)
The two worst tornado outbreaks in the past hundred years were in 1925 and 1974. I would stay away from the Ohio valley in 2021 then.
The 1936 heat wave — even worse than 1911. This is actually getting rather brutal, call me off before I hurt somebody.
A college failure.
...scientists have high confidence that sea level will rise all over the world, and particularly fast in some areas like the East Coast.
So sea level is different in different places?
Talk about getting it wrong.
Future generations will wonder how Owl Gore wasn’t imprisoned under the RICO act...
Went to the UCS website and posted the following:
Rob Sermon says:
August 22, 2013 at 7:44 pm
Please, please post this, Mods A question for all scientists, including those with the UCS
When, in the history of earth, has the climate ever been static? Was it when the Arctic icecap was as far south as Indiana? Ya know, the icecap that formed the Great Lakes, and tens of thousand glacial lakes, that have the best fishing in North America?
Just when was the climate static?
Class 6.. 500 mph storms. WE’RE DOOMED!
listen... warming, cooling, it was 50/50. so i took a shot!!!
Uhhh da urf has a fever!
"...two kilometers or so down in most places there are these incredibly hot rocks, 'cause the interior of the earth is extremely hot, several million degrees, and the crust of the earth is hot ..."
Would someon care to explain the fascinating law of nature that creates higher sea level rises at on place on the coast compared to others?
Does this scientist also fear that the shallow end of her swimming pool will start overflowing, or that the half of the glass closest to her is too full?
It's called "the tides", and it's caused by the moon.
Tides are NOT the sea level, they are deviations from sea-level.
Unless you are predicting that the moon is going to permanently plant itself over the Northeast, I would like an explanation of how sea level is going to increase more in one place than another.
And because it hit lots of expensive homes in the NYC area.
The current hurricane season, which is entering its historical peak period, has been pretty quiet so far.
The real life Elmer Gantry gets it wrong again!
Not only that but it can rise in the middle of the Atlantic and fall along the coastline of Africa. Not only can it, it happens every day.
Another interesting fact, on some continents, the sea level 'rises' on one coast while it is 'falling' on the other.
One thing for sure. At no time is the overall sea level making any major move in either direction. All apparent events are localized. On the long scale of geography, it the sea appears to be 'rising', you can be assured that the real thing that happened is that the ground is sinking. It's been going on for billions of years, with 'apparent localized' sea level changes. There are Islands in the Pacific, for instance, that are brand new. volcanoes that have broken the surface. The Islands of Hawaii are of this breed. These islands experience a 'change' in sea level constantly. The level of the sea around them isn't and hasn't changed in any measurable way in millions of years. But the ground, everywhere is constantly on the move, some fast, some slow. Some up, some down.
This is the truth that many do not want to know, that the media isn't interested in bringing up (even though every child is taught the physics of hydraulic displacement and the ability of water to instantly keep it's 'level' by flowing to the lowest point), and that people like Al (my dad was a commie and raped the Earth leaving toxic poisons behind for area inhabitants to deal with) Gore have turned into a fortune by not discussing.
To summarize, yes, yes it is.
(I know your response was sarcasm, and I took advantage of it to remind everyone of some basic truths. )
Well.... the lush, dense forest areas I am massively surrounded by used to be a dust bowl.
The answer is simple, and obvious. Somehow we have been taught to ignore the obvious.
It is not the sea that rises or falls, it is the ground. This is a well established geological fact. It is a basic principle of science. If you change the surface of the ground around a lake or river, the water will move to seek it's own new level and 'balance'. The idea that the sea level 'rose' is merely a point of view type of thing.
Looks like the slam on Gore is a pretext for reading liberal claptrap...
Well... I guess if you are powerful enough that you promise to keep the 'climate' from ever changing again (given enough funding), then surely you can freeze the Moon in place precisely wherever you want.