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Tea party paralysis (Editor's Inbox)
globalgazzette ^ | Aug 21, 2013 | By HAROLD W. HOPP

Posted on 08/22/2013 12:23:10 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

Tea party Sens. Mike Lee, R-Utah, Ted Cruz, R-Texas, and Rand Paul, R-Kentucky, are insisting that Republicans shouldn’t negotiate on the federal budget unless Democrats agree in advance not to try for a rise in the debt ceiling when the fiscal year ends on Sept. 30.

This triumvirate of the Republican far right seem to have decided that they no longer have any obligation to engage in basic governance of our people through bipartisan negotiations and compromise.

Republican Sen. John McCain said the tea partiers complain that negotiations are “back room dealings” but seem not to realize that whatever agreement is reached has to be passed by both houses of Congress.

Governing won’t happen if the Democrats and Republicans can’t negotiate on legislation.

Tea party conservatives have recently laid out their continuing disinterest in compromise when a coalition of 20 groups of tea partiers sent the following letter urging Sen. Lamar Alexander, a moderate Republican from Tennessee, to retire: “Unfortunately, our great nation can no longer afford compromise and bipartisanship, two traits for which you have become famous. America faces serious challenges and needs policymakers who will defend conservative values, not work with those who are actively undermining those values.”

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TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona; US: Tennessee; US: Texas; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: arizona; debt; johnmccain; lamaralexander; mikelee; spending; teaparty; teapartyrebellion; tedcruz; tennessee; texas; utah
What they mean here by "bi-partisan negotiate and compromise" is that we should bend over and let them have their way with us. Wham bam thank you ma'am.
1 posted on 08/22/2013 12:23:10 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson

it’s true: we aren’t interested in “governing”. We’ve had enough of that.

But we are interested in freedom.....


2 posted on 08/22/2013 12:29:00 PM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: Jim Robinson
This triumvirate of the Republican far right seem to have decided that they no longer have any obligation to engage in basic governance of our people through bipartisan negotiations and compromise

It has NEVER been that way! Here is what happened the last time that the Democrats had both houses of Congress in terms of "bipartisan negotiations and compromise":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imUyBlc7NHQ

If the Gate Is Closed, We Will Go Over the Fence, If the Fence Is Too High, We Will Pole Vault In

As I said to some friends yesterday in the press, we will go through the gate. If the gate is closed, we will go over the fence. If the fence is too high, we will pole vault in. If that doesn’t work, we will parachute in. But we are going to get health care reform passed for the American people for their own personal health and economic security and for the important role that it will play in reducing the deficit.
3 posted on 08/22/2013 12:31:32 PM PDT by Eagle of Liberty (Be the Enemy Within the Enemy Within...)
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To: Jim Robinson

The Tea Party ran on a platform of making the government smaller.

In 2 and 1/2 years, has the government gotten any smaller?


4 posted on 08/22/2013 12:34:24 PM PDT by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Hopp is without clue. Compromise is not possible when it means the destruction of all we hold dear. One does not compromise with those who seek our destruction. In a war the obliteration of the enemy is the only legitimate goal. This is war. Liberalism and Islam are the 2 horns of satan that must be ground into dust.


5 posted on 08/22/2013 12:36:52 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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To: Tzimisce

Unfortunately, tea party types are not yet in control of our government. But they are fighting against it.

The big spending liberals, RINOs and GOP-e statists have no interest whatsoever in cutting government.

Go, TEA PARTY!!


6 posted on 08/22/2013 12:43:49 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Jim Robinson
“This triumvirate of the Republican far right seem to have decided that they no longer have any obligation to engage in basic governance of our people through bipartisan negotiations and compromise.”

Not really.

But, since Republicans CANNOT/WOULD NOT arbitrarily force laws into place by Executive order ...we have chosen to engage in governance in a LEGAL, authorized, formal and traditional way, which our constituents approve!!

7 posted on 08/22/2013 12:44:09 PM PDT by SMARTY ("The test of every religious, political, or educational system is the man that it forms." H. Amiel)
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To: Jim Robinson

Bi-Partisan Compromise is when the LIBERAL make demands they know in advance they have NO chance of achieving.
They enter into a “bi-partisan” negotiation with the RINOs and thus achieve that which they really wanted in the first place.
It’s an old union ploy. Demand what you’ll never get, and end up shaking hands over a ‘compromise” that gives you what you actually sought.
And because they met the opposition half way, the MSM extolls their virtue.


8 posted on 08/22/2013 12:52:38 PM PDT by CaptainAmiigaf (NY TIMES: We print the news as it fits our views.)
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To: Tzimisce
Tzimisce ~" The Tea Party ran on a platform of making the government smaller.
In 2 and 1/2 years, has the government gotten any smaller?"

No .. not smaller,..yet !
But their voices have been heard !!
and the estblished GOPe are rightfully shaken !
Karl Rove and John Boehner no longer represent the electorate , and should be removed and/ or FIRED !

9 posted on 08/22/2013 12:57:49 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: Jim Robinson
In the DemocRATs lexicon, Bipartisanship and Compromise both mean “Conservatives give in to Liberals” and all is well.
10 posted on 08/22/2013 1:07:30 PM PDT by Dracomeister (The older I get the less I care about what other people think.)
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To: Jim Robinson
This triumvirate of the Republican far right seem to have decided that they no longer have any obligation to engage in basic governance of our people through bipartisan negotiations and compromise.

Do as I say, not as I do.

How about how Obamacare was passed?

-PJ

11 posted on 08/22/2013 1:10:03 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Jim Robinson

SHOW ME IN THE US CONSTITUTION WHERE IT SAYS ANYTHING ABOUT BI-PARTISAN COMPROMISE AND SHOW ME ANYTIME SINCE REID, PELOSI AND OBAMA WON WHERE THE DIMS HAVE COMPROMISED ON ANYTHING. **** THE DIMS... **** COMPROMISE AND **** THIS AUTHOR.


12 posted on 08/22/2013 1:16:45 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: Jim Robinson

NO KISS OR REACH AROUND FOR REPUBLICANS!


13 posted on 08/22/2013 1:17:18 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: LibLieSlayer

bump


14 posted on 08/22/2013 1:17:59 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: ConservativeDude

That article is a bunch of used toilet water


15 posted on 08/22/2013 1:18:43 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Jim Robinson
Tea party conservatives have recently laid out their continuing disinterest in compromise

I am more than willing to compromise how the Democrats do it. If I want 10 government programs eliminated, I'm willing to compromise at eliminating 5, reducing 3 and leaving 2 alone for now. We can then start compromising again tomorrow on how to eliminate the remaining ones.

We shouldn't compromise by tossing our demands for program elimination away on the first step and then agreeing to 95% of what the Dems want.

16 posted on 08/22/2013 1:19:59 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (This message has been recorded but not approved by Obama's StasiNet. Read it at your peril.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Compromises on how you exercise Constitutional power, are perfectly proper; as are compromises on the appointments of honorable men, who may have some differences of opinion.

But a compromise that in effect ignores the obligations of one's oath to uphold the Constitution, either by funding what the Constitution does not permit, or by approving the appointment of a scoff-law, who will not acknowledge his or her Constitutional duty, can never be acceptable to the principled public servant.

In charity, ought we to assume that John McCain's arteries no longer allow the flow of blood to those parts of his brain that understand the above? Or does he really want to be seen as putting "getting along" with usurpers above his duty?

William Flax

17 posted on 08/22/2013 1:40:59 PM PDT by Ohioan
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To: Dracomeister

The Democrats’ version of compromise is to keep getting the GOP-e to meet them halfway until they’ve met them nearly all the way.


18 posted on 08/22/2013 1:43:20 PM PDT by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (The average American voter is an idiot. Which is how the Dems want it.)
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To: Jim Robinson
The Tea Party's not going to win any more elections.

The American Left has control of the FEC, the IRS, the FCC, the courts, etc.

The Tea Party might win an election here and there, but for the most part we're now Venezuela.

The only way to fix it is to defund it - RIGHT NOW.

But since the House isn't interested in doing that....

First step to fixing a problem is admitting you have one. Republicans, Tea Partiers and Conservatives are mostly living in denial.
19 posted on 08/22/2013 2:02:33 PM PDT by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

Right.

And that drunk told me he’ll stop drinking tomorrow.


20 posted on 08/22/2013 2:03:29 PM PDT by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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To: Tzimisce

Well, if you’re going to surrender, please do it elsewhere. I’m not interested.


21 posted on 08/22/2013 2:08:28 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

I didn’t say “surrender”.

I said we need to face the problem for what it is.


22 posted on 08/22/2013 2:10:56 PM PDT by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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To: Jim Robinson

We desperately need to change tactics - that’s for sure.


23 posted on 08/22/2013 2:11:47 PM PDT by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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To: Tzimisce

It is easier that way. If you do acknowledge that there is a problem, you do not have to do any thing about it. just wait and it will self correct. The Jews in 1930s Germany refused to face the fact that Hitler posed a problem for them. And paid with their lives. Conservatives in the United States of America refuse to acknowledge that the Socialists that make up the Democrat Party and main stream media are a problem for them . In the end, should they continue to play the Socialists game, they will suffer the same fate as the German Jews.


24 posted on 08/22/2013 2:27:08 PM PDT by sport
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To: Jim Robinson

One thing that you can count on as much as you do the sun rising tomorrow... old LLS will never surrender.


25 posted on 08/22/2013 3:50:02 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: GeronL

Why thank you!


26 posted on 08/22/2013 3:50:48 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: LibLieSlayer

The TEA Party might be the final gasping grasp for the liberty to save this country from the wretched nightmare of an Orwellian state. It might, or probably, is too little, too late. It’s worth trying though, it has to be tried.

Because the next step is an armed, probably futile, uprising.

Then its several generations of bondage and slavery.


27 posted on 08/22/2013 3:57:21 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: sickoflibs; stephenjohnbanker

This triumvirate of the Republican far right seem to have decided that they no longer have any obligation to engage in basic governance of our people through bipartisan negotiations and compromise.

So what are Baraq, Harry and Nance the "triumvirate" of?

28 posted on 08/22/2013 7:42:55 PM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: Impy; stephenjohnbanker; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Gilbo_3; NFHale; Liz; Clintonfatigued; ...
RE :”This triumvirate of the Republican far right seem to have decided that they no longer have any obligation to engage in basic governance of our people through bipartisan negotiations and compromise.
....
So what are Baraq, Harry and Nance the “triumvirate” of?”

VERY simple.
They are saying they miss Bush.
All the Bush deals and now all the Bush people on MSNBC outing themselves as libs siding with Obama(like Nicole Wallace) .

Remember ‘Miss Bush yet’ ???

Now you know the meaning.

29 posted on 08/22/2013 7:50:37 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: ohioWfan; Impy; stephenjohnbanker; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Gilbo_3; NFHale

Sorry OWF, I forgot to include you. I just posted

“VERY simple.
They (Obama Dems) are now saying they miss Bush.
All the Bush deals w Dems and now all the Bush people on MSNBC outing themselves as libs siding with Obama(like Nicole Wallace) .

Remember ‘Miss Bush yet’ ???

Now you know the meaning. “


30 posted on 08/22/2013 8:10:58 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: sickoflibs

The RATS are panicked. Their tears and fears taste and smell like honeysuckle and I need MORE! MORE!


31 posted on 08/22/2013 8:20:57 PM PDT by txhurl ('The DOG ate my homework. That homework, too. ALL my homework. OK?' - POSHITUS)
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RE :”The RATS are panicked. Their tears and fears taste and smell like honeysuckle and I need MORE! MORE!”

AHHH yes, 2014 is shaping up to be another 2010.

Dems see it now with Obama’s low approval as his inability to shape opinion. Their last hope against this is a gov shutdown that gets out the vote against Rs.

The above means that Obama’s last two years could be his worst as far as getting libs their wish list. This is poison to them.

32 posted on 08/22/2013 8:28:32 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: sickoflibs
Lemme tell you a little secret. Today, our (TX) Lt. Gov got busted on tape after calling 911 to get a distant relative sprung out of a shoplifting arrest near Dallas, in a very embarassing call.

Just like Cruz kicked him to the gutter for TX Senate, now Greg Abbott is almost assured of doing the same to him, for Governor.

The TX conservative syndicate's tentacles are growing far and wide, with our sister states doing same, and you are about to witness a Reagan landslide X2 next year. Then another in '16.

33 posted on 08/22/2013 8:48:23 PM PDT by txhurl ('The DOG ate my homework. That homework, too. ALL my homework. OK?' - POSHITUS)
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To: txhurl; stephenjohnbanker; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; NFHale; Impy; Perdogg; BillyBoy
RE “The TX conservative syndicate's tentacles are growing far and wide, with our sister states doing same, and you are about to witness a Reagan landslide X2 next year. Then another in ‘16. “

!) It is way complete fantasy to expect that the POTUS election 2016 results will follow an off year election 2014, especially before the first takes place. Too many variables.
Exhibit A 2010.

2) Dems will hopefully take a bruising 2014.

Wouldnt be surprised if Christie got the nomination and Hillary beat him and he became another talk radio host,

34 posted on 08/22/2013 9:35:46 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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