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NSA collected thousands of US communications
AP ^ | 08.21.13 1507 EDT | KIMBERLY DOZIER and STEPHEN BRAUN

Posted on 08/21/2013 12:18:32 PM PDT by Perdogg

The nations' top intelligence official is declassifying three secret U.S. court opinions showing how the National Security Agency scooped up as many as 56,000 emails annually over three years and other communications by Americans with no connection to terrorism, how it revealed the error to the court and changed how it gathered Internet communications.

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To: Perdogg

Obama and Oboehner don’t care, so why are we debating his.

It was wrong and is wrong to be collecting all this data.


21 posted on 08/21/2013 2:11:24 PM PDT by Nextrush (A BALANCED BUDGET NOW AND PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN ARE AT THE TOP OF MY LIST)
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To: Sam Gamgee

“My question is does the NSA have a back door to Google and Facebook databases or don’t they. According to Google, they don’t.”

The problem here is that even if the NSA had total access to Google it would be illegal for anyone at Google to tell us about it.


22 posted on 08/21/2013 2:12:49 PM PDT by MeganC (A gun is like a parachute. If you need one, and don't have one, you'll never need one again.)
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To: Perdogg

Yet more lies exposed. First it was just 50 or so, then 2,500, and now its over 55,000. Nobody can believe anything these liars say.


23 posted on 08/21/2013 2:15:12 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Perdogg
The NSA disclosed that it gathers some 250 million internet communications each year, with some 9 percent from these "upstream" channels, amounting to between 20 million to 25 million emails a year. The agency used statistical analysis to estimate that of those, possibly as many as 56,000 Internet communications collected were sent by Americans or persons in the U.S. with no connection to terrorism.

Moreover, it's just an educated guess!!!!

24 posted on 08/21/2013 2:19:13 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Perdogg

Impeachment File on Communist, Benghazi Coward “B. Hussein Obama,” formerly known as Barry Soetoro, currently a Legal Citizen of the Sovereign Nation of Indonesia.


25 posted on 08/21/2013 2:21:51 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Commune-Style Obama'care' violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Perdogg

I’m forgiving of the NSA and am willing to send a measured response to the good folks there. We send in the 101st Airborne to round up and jail half the NSA Stasi, and wait to see if the other half gets the message. If not, call out the 1st Marine Division to clean out the rest.

These a-holes are not patriots; they’re traitors attacking our liberties.


26 posted on 08/21/2013 3:43:18 PM PDT by sergeantdave (No, I don't have links for everything I post)
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To: gaijin; Boogieman; familyop; MeganC
he NSA has a new program, Total Information Tracking System.

As in 'All your T.I.T.S. Are belong to US. er us.'

Actually the Total Information Awareness idea is merely another of mans feeble attempt(s) to 'become as G-D, knowing good and evil.' After all, the internet is the modern equivalent of The Tree of Knowledge.

There is a data collection system in place and it's called The Jeweled Net of Indra and the records are stored at the Akashic Library. Google those!

I'm guessing the Almighty's view of this is much like the 2001 space odyssey monolith monkeys. Or an

... Alpha-Bet org company picnic, bunch of wankers following Britney Spears around with drones waiting for her to get out of her car...

27 posted on 08/21/2013 4:58:29 PM PDT by Jeremiah Jr (EL CHaI)
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To: Perdogg

I wonder what Obama’s NSA has on Boehner and McConnel...


28 posted on 08/21/2013 5:15:04 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Perdogg

What gets me is how Satan can find so many recruits to willfully do his bidding, all the way into the Lake of Fire for eternity at Judgement time. And there is no escaping God’s final judgement.


29 posted on 08/21/2013 6:07:41 PM PDT by Old Yeller (Who am I to judge homosexuals? That's what the Tony Awards are for.)
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To: Perdogg; C. Edmund Wright

Since the FBI “source” that provided the Petraeus affair emails was never spelled out, it would be interesting to find out if they were some of those thousands of emails scooped up “accidentally” when a “202” area code was mistaken for a “20” national code.

Given the revelation that the DEA was tipped off by the NSA on some criminal matter and told to lie about the real source of their information, it is not an unreasonable question to ask if the FBI was told to lie about the real source of their information about Petraeus.

I don’t think it is reasonable that someone accidentally mistook the Washington DC area code of 202 for some “20” country code.


30 posted on 08/21/2013 6:15:17 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Perdogg

Well... That’s an excruciatingly small number. I’ve got a few times that in my own email archives.

I can think of a way this might be happening. I do believe them when they say they are focused on messaging going in and out internationally. That’s the stuff that’s most interesting and most likely to be useful. Domestic message traffic is simply so... So enormous... It’s trying to sip from a fire hose, and a scary gynormous amount of work for a tediously small payoff in useful intel. If it were me I wouldn’t bother, and I’d bet they’ve been through that same calculation themselves.

But now and then even if you’re capturing international traffic you’ll grab some traffic between U.S. citizens who are working on foreign messaging services. Quite a lot of it maybe... So they work their algorithm to ignore situations like that as far as they can imagine them... But always end up with some comms from people that don’t fit in the nice algorithmic boxes. If it is really only 56k items, my compliments to the system designer for a filter screen that really does seem to work.


31 posted on 08/21/2013 6:59:16 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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To: Perdogg

This must STOP without probable cause. These bastards are so ineffectual that they didn’t have a clue on the Terrorist at Fort HOOD or the Boston bombing !! What a gross blatant violation of the 4th Amendment . The Supreme court WILL kill this snake. In the mean time, find our Congressmen who voted for this gestapo crap and give them a ride back to a non existent JOB!!


32 posted on 08/21/2013 7:17:05 PM PDT by SADMILLIE (r)
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To: Perdogg

Suck up Karl Rove was singing the NSA’s praises because they found it themselves and REPORTED it themselves. Why are people like him so afraid of the NSA? His oppinion is worth absolutely nothing yet he feels he has to constantly defend them.


33 posted on 08/21/2013 10:07:29 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (When you vote for evil because you can't see evil, you ARE evil.)
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To: Perdogg

34 posted on 08/22/2013 7:51:39 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: FES0844

Here’s the thing....we are paying for them to collect information...where 99.9999999-percent of what they collect is of no value. Billions spent, and maybe in one average day of collection, there might be six emails from seventeen billion that they might say are valuable.

It’s kinda like having forty-four umpires on the field of a baseball game between two teams. Other than the homeplate umpire....there’s rarely more than three rulings per inning. But you’d still pay full-price for the four-four umpires to stand there and pretend they are important.

And there’s one more thing. Every single senator, their staff members, and the campaign managers...are being monitored as well. You would think they’d be shaking in their boots...unless of course, they wrote some law that exempts them. Makes you wonder.


35 posted on 08/25/2013 12:46:15 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: pepsionice

...are being monitored as well.

Perhaps Justice Roberts was the first to find that out.


36 posted on 08/25/2013 4:17:56 AM PDT by FES0844
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To: Perdogg

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3064092/posts

Obama administration had restrictions on NSA reversed in 2011
The Washington Post ^ | Ellen Nakashima

Posted on Sunday, September 08, 2013 6:59:34 AM by originalbuckeye

The Obama administration secretly won permission from a surveillance court in 2011 to reverse restrictions on the National Security Agency’s use of intercepted phone calls and e-mails, permitting the agency to search deliberately for Americans’ communications in its massive databases, according to interviews with government officials and recently declassified material.

In addition, the court extended the length of time that the NSA is allowed to retain intercepted U.S. communications from five years to six years — and more under special circumstances, according to the documents, which include a recently released 2011 opinion by U.S. District Judge John D. Bates, then chief judge of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court.


37 posted on 09/08/2013 7:35:02 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( When insane/feral Islamics are killing each other, stand back and let Allah sort them out!)
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