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Uninsured next year? Here's your Obamacare penalty
cnn ^ | August 13, 2013: 10:01 AM ET | Tami Luhby

Posted on 08/18/2013 7:52:07 PM PDT by Red Steel

To try to ensure that people sign up for coverage, the Affordable Care Act carries complex penalties for those who remain uninsured that could cost them hundreds, or even thousands of dollars. Some 6 million people could be hit with these fines in 2016, forking $7 billion over to the federal government, according to the Congressional Budget Office. ...

Here's how the penalties will work:

Uninsured adults will either pay a flat fee for themselves and their children or pay a share of their income, whichever is greater. ...

Not every uninsured person will be subject to the penalty, however. In fact, 80% of the 30 million Americans expected to lack coverage in 2016 will be exempt from the mandate, according to the Congressional Budget Office.

Among those exempted include: undocumented immigrants, Native Americans and those who earn too little to file tax returns. Also, people who would have to pay more than 8% of their income for health insurance and poor adults who live in states that are not expanding Medicaid also aren't subject to the penalty. The uninsured can also file for hardship exemptions.

(Excerpt) Read more at money.cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: abortion; deathpanels; obamacare; zerocare
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1 posted on 08/18/2013 7:52:07 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

If I sign up will I get 3 years of Viagra ahead of time....


2 posted on 08/18/2013 7:57:30 PM PDT by rovenstinez
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To: Red Steel

And the Mob will continue to raise the penalty every year. Rich Senators should not be able to pass legislation for peoples substanlly poorer than they are.


3 posted on 08/18/2013 7:57:54 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Red Steel

undocumented immigrants...”

Ad on TV in Houston area today about Medicaid CHIP policy for kids for $150.00 per year. I can almost guarantee you that there is no or very little background checking done to make sure that they qualify. Covers services provided by doctors, dentists and for vision. B>S>!!!


4 posted on 08/18/2013 7:59:17 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: Red Steel

Family income gross or net? before or after taxes?


5 posted on 08/18/2013 8:04:46 PM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: rovenstinez

I lost my birth certificate. Does that make me undocumented?


6 posted on 08/18/2013 8:04:49 PM PDT by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
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To: rovenstinez

I lost my birth certificate. Does that make me undocumented?


7 posted on 08/18/2013 8:04:53 PM PDT by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
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To: Red Steel

Americans are exempt from commie-care.


8 posted on 08/18/2013 8:06:24 PM PDT by Ray76 (Common sense immigration reform: Enforce Existing Law)
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To: Red Steel

Take it out of my .......


9 posted on 08/18/2013 8:10:26 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: Red Steel

The “good” news is that 2016 none of us will have any income...


10 posted on 08/18/2013 8:11:54 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Red Steel

Does anyone know how it will affect people eligible for VA hospital benefits?


11 posted on 08/18/2013 8:18:39 PM PDT by luvbach1 (We are finished.)
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To: Red Steel

The 2016 penalty is still way less than insurance.


12 posted on 08/18/2013 8:22:22 PM PDT by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: Red Steel

Seems like this may be the straw that finally breaks the Washingtonians back.


13 posted on 08/18/2013 8:23:38 PM PDT by Rome2000 (THE WASHINGTONIANS AND UNIVERSAL SUFFRAGE ARE THE ENEMY -ROTATE THE CAPITAL AMONGST THE STATES)
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To: luvbach1

What VA hospital benefits? BHO2 is abolishing veterans benefits, don’t ‘cha know!


14 posted on 08/18/2013 8:26:25 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITIZEN: BORN IN THE USA OFCITIZEN PARENTS)
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To: Red Steel

Gee... I thought it was FREE.


15 posted on 08/18/2013 8:28:48 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: Red Steel

Add that to the 2% Payroll tax.

Gee this is swell.


16 posted on 08/18/2013 8:30:46 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: Red Steel

obamacare has a lot of things in it that we don’t want. We’re just now finding out the feds can go into your home anytime they want. I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s a clause in there somewhere giving obama the right to confiscate firearms. And another clause giving the feds the right to watch you through yout TV.

Stossel said your cell phone and laptops can be turned into listening devices. Can be? They already are. A few weeks back my wife and I were talking about buying something that we’ve never bought before. The next time I went online a pop up ad came up for that item. No kidding.


17 posted on 08/18/2013 8:34:41 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (When you vote for evil because you can't see evil, you ARE evil.)
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To: luvbach1

I’d like to know the same thing. And what about medicare? Both are considered insurance.

Of course once they get single payer EVERYONE will be going to the VA.


18 posted on 08/18/2013 8:37:17 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (When you vote for evil because you can't see evil, you ARE evil.)
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To: Red Steel
...Also, people who would have to pay more than 8% of their income for health insurance and poor adults who live in states that are not expanding Medicaid also aren't subject to the penalty.

So do I get to "shop" for a Cadiolac Plan to make myself exempt?

19 posted on 08/18/2013 8:48:23 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: Rodamala

That’s Cadillac.... smartphone meets fat fingaz.


20 posted on 08/18/2013 8:50:28 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: Red Steel

Wait until people have to cut these checks.

Get out the popcorn.


21 posted on 08/18/2013 8:53:58 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: Red Steel

We have the “conservative” judge John F’n Roberts to thank for this (among many other scoundrels, including traitors, socialists, do-gooders, unionists, librarians, public employees, universities, and school teachers)


22 posted on 08/18/2013 9:07:46 PM PDT by bkopto (Obama and Biden are merely symptoms of a more profound, systemic disease in American body politic.)
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To: headstamp 2
Wait until people have to cut these checks.

As noted in the article, an estimated 80% of the estimated 30 million uninsured will be exempt from paying the fine (or tax or whatever).

You may interpret that to mean that a.) illegal aliens and minorities will get a free ride while b.) only the honest, poor, working class whites will be stuck with paying the fine.

23 posted on 08/18/2013 9:13:36 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Rodamala

Our premium for 2 people turning 60 this year would be over $1200/month, which is more than 20% of our income, so we don’t have to pay the penalty. We also no longer have access to affordable health insurance, thanks to ZeroCare driving up the premiums with mandatory pregnancy and pediatric coverage, both of which I neither want nor need at my age!


24 posted on 08/18/2013 9:25:41 PM PDT by Prince of Space (Be Breitbart, baby. LIFB.)
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To: VerySadAmerican

Medicare Part B insurees are exempt from the fine. They’re already covered by an “approved” policy.


25 posted on 08/18/2013 9:31:56 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: VerySadAmerican

Medicare Part B insurees are exempt from the fine. They’re already covered by an “approved” policy.


26 posted on 08/18/2013 9:32:25 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: bkopto

The Congress could have put a lawsuit forth that said Roberts usurped them.

Roberts says if it is a tax it stands, but it did not pass congress as a tax.
Even Obama argued that is was not a tax.

Should this not go back through the congress upon Roberts ruling?

Where are all OUR lawyers? The place is stacked stinking thick with them.


27 posted on 08/18/2013 9:34:08 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: headstamp 2

Wait’ll the working folks with budget policies in the “expanded” states discover that they’re now in the Medicaid program. Popcorn futures should be an excellent investment.


28 posted on 08/18/2013 9:40:57 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: Red Steel

Remember that those who are uninsured next year are more likely to be middle class struggling to pay for their healthcare after paying for the peoples next door first (taxes)


29 posted on 08/18/2013 11:01:33 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: VerySadAmerican
We’re just now finding out the feds can go into your home anytime they want. I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s a clause in there somewhere giving obama the right to confiscate firearms

Doctors are now required to ask if there is a gun in the house, this is going to be the reason they choose to raid.. I mean "inspect" your home.

30 posted on 08/18/2013 11:03:31 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: mylife

Our side is not organized


31 posted on 08/18/2013 11:04:57 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: headstamp 2; Red Steel
Wait until people have to cut these checks. Get out the popcorn.

The IRS will take it out of any tax refund they get, they won't wait for no stinkin' check. You didn't think they hired all those new agents and bought all that ammunition just to "help" the folks, did you?

32 posted on 08/18/2013 11:30:27 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: headstamp 2; Red Steel
Wait until people have to cut these checks. Get out the popcorn.

The IRS will take it out of any tax refund they get, they won't wait for no stinkin' check. You didn't think they hired all those new agents and bought all that ammunition just to "help" the folks, did you?

33 posted on 08/18/2013 11:37:02 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: umgud; musicman; Norm Lenhart; Red Steel; rxsid; null and void

~~~I lost my birth certificate. Does that make me undocumented?~~~

You can now become Pres__ent Without ID!!!!!


34 posted on 08/18/2013 11:44:57 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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35 posted on 08/18/2013 11:49:39 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: Red Steel

F****************

It’s amazing so much of the citizenry wanted this.


36 posted on 08/19/2013 12:20:53 AM PDT by wastedyears (One nation, under wub. Saints Row IV)
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To: umgud

I don’t know, but it makes you eligible to be president of the United States.


37 posted on 08/19/2013 12:21:48 AM PDT by wastedyears (One nation, under wub. Saints Row IV)
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To: mylife

Wwwelllll, let’s see...

You’re right it didn’t pass Congress as a tax and Obama did argue it wasn’t, HOWEVER, during Supreme Court brief submissions and arguments Obama switched tactics and had his DOJ lackey claim it WAS a tax.

That flew under the radar screen of the reporting.

I recall how LIVID Mark Levin was at Robert’s ruling along with the faithful 4 libs, but after he collected himself he said it WAS presented in regime briefs and I think oral argument at some point. At the time he thought it was such a crock it could never be accepted by the court and was SHOCKED and ANGERED that Robert’s used it as a fig leaf over the worst decision EVER.

As for Congress running this through again this time as a tax so it could be defeated as such - it’s like anything else. The House would do one thing, the Senate another and Obama sides with Reid. The Regime and Reid do whatever they must to continue down this road. That’s all they care about.

Short of a deFUNDING showdown a la Mike Lee’s approach, I don’t see any legislative hope.

On that point, we have the GOP E running amok using the Left’s lingo that we must not “shut down the government” like it was us that would be shutting it down, when truth is it would be Obama/Reid shutting it down in order to continue shoving this monster down our throats.


38 posted on 08/19/2013 1:30:06 AM PDT by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear." - Glenn Beck)
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To: VerySadAmerican

Generally, such devices’ microphone function(s) can be defeated when desired (best is if an external plug [only] can be used to do so, as a mechanical “open” cannot be defeated no matter how much time / effort / money the NSA throws at it from a remote location. If they have a truck outside your house, you have a bigger problem!)

Perhaps some computers are different, but on my machines, either it is not possible to activate the internal mic when the mic jack has a plug in it, or, there is no internal mic in the 1st place.

Of course, if about 20 million people were devious and fed a stream of canned but “suspicious” audio with all the right “keywords” into U.S.’ communications network, at semi-random times, that’d overload NSA’s whole system. The problem is, we (or at least I) actually DO want them listening for real terrorists, so the question is how to limit the surveillance to only that. I have no real answer for that, as we have seen how easily any “legal safeguards” can be avoided or ignored.


39 posted on 08/19/2013 1:58:06 AM PDT by Paul R. (We are in a break in an Ice Age. A brief break at that...)
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To: VerySadAmerican

http://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/microsoft-patents-kinect-anti-piracy-capabilities/


40 posted on 08/19/2013 3:19:51 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: Red Steel
Among those exempted include: people who would have to pay more than 8% of their income for health insurance

So, a person earning $30,000 a year would be exempted if ObamaCare insurance would cost them more than $200/month. (8% of $30,000 is $2,400)

Hmmmmmmm . . . .

41 posted on 08/19/2013 3:27:22 AM PDT by savedbygrace (But God.)
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To: mylife
Roberts says if it is a tax it stands, but it did not pass congress as a tax. Even Obama argued that is was not a tax.

EXACTLY!

Roberts had to rewrite the letter of the law to approve it--and that isn't his job.

42 posted on 08/19/2013 4:42:35 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Red Steel

If I was a liberal Democrat, I’d be laughing and crapping on everyone too.

The only thing the Tea Party has done to stop these people is push an Amnesty bill through the Senate...


43 posted on 08/19/2013 5:19:40 AM PDT by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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To: Red Steel

$95 ???


44 posted on 08/19/2013 5:34:20 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: Red Steel

I understand that not only the uninsured but also whose insurance does not measure up will have to either: (1) pay some kind of penalty, or (2) have their policy meet the government’s minimum standard which will raise their expense even more.

There is one sure fire way to get rid of this:

(1) A total wipeout in the Senate and House with override majorities in each in the 2014 election AND getting rid of the Rino type republicans.

(2) Majorities in the House and Senate in 2014 with conservatives willing to vote down obamacare and undercut it in some way.

(3) Ultimately, in 2016 winning the presidency and supermajorities in the house and senate OR winning operating majorities, ending the filibuster, and repealing obamacare altogether.


45 posted on 08/19/2013 5:52:12 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: VerySadAmerican
A few weeks back my wife and I were talking about buying something that we’ve never bought before. The next time I went online a pop up ad came up for that item. No kidding.

One of you probably looked at one of those items online. From there (somehow) the information got to providers of that item, all of whom want to sell it to you.

By way of example; last Tuesday I looked for a very specialized switch on ebay, and at Radio Shack. Since that time, nearly every web page I bring up with advertisements on it that has that switch, and others similar to it.

Before that it was cowboy boots, before that it was other shoes, before that...............

Test it out yourself, go online shopping for a specific item, go to 5 or so stores looking for it. You'll see that item for weeks afterward on sites with advertising

46 posted on 08/19/2013 7:40:51 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (When America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: Balding_Eagle

Test it out yourself, go online shopping for a specific item, go to 5 or so stores looking for it. You’ll see that item for weeks afterward on sites with advertising

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I clear my temporary files all the time and never have any tracking of this nature. My friends with apple equipment cannot do this.


47 posted on 08/19/2013 7:43:13 AM PDT by Chickensoup (200 million unarmed " people killed in the 20th century by Leftist Totalitarian Fascists)
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To: Chickensoup

I decided not to clear those files.


48 posted on 08/19/2013 7:50:38 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (When America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: Balding_Eagle

Yep, just looked. my wife must be wanting a new dishwasher.


49 posted on 08/19/2013 8:13:04 AM PDT by Einherjar
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To: Red Steel
OK IRS here's my info:
Insurer: Mutual of KissMyAzz
Policy number: 2
Now go ESAD.
50 posted on 08/19/2013 8:30:19 AM PDT by Condor51 (Si vis pacem, para bellum.)
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