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Display of Robert E. Lee Portrait Called Racist by Local NAACP
Breitbart ^ | 8/15/134

Posted on 08/16/2013 10:19:12 AM PDT by Impala64ssa

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To: rightwingextremist1776
Lots of wisdom from that era has proved to be true....including the destruction of the 10th Amendment.

Ok. let me see if I get where you are coming from; you don not think the destruction of the 10th amendment is bad. You are no fan of states rights, do I have that correct?

81 posted on 08/16/2013 3:01:53 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: rockrr

donmeaker


82 posted on 08/16/2013 3:11:57 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va; donmeaker

I know that he doesn’t have a very high opinion of rel (but then neither do I) but I don’t recall ever hearing him say that he would advocate the banishment of portraits of rel or davis from public display. I know that I wouldn’t.

In what way do you feel that donmeaker sides with the naacp?


83 posted on 08/16/2013 3:44:52 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: stremba
Congratulations. You've managed to produce a thoughtful post. Not common on such threads.

Do have one question.

Lee, however, did oppose the spread of slavery

Do you have any evidence for this? The only letters of his I've seen express dislike for the institution, but no intention at all to end it any time soon. He expresses mostly dislike for abolitionists.

84 posted on 08/16/2013 4:03:33 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Red_Devil 232

If it was true, that doesn’t mean anything.

Who cares what he thought. His thoughts don’t hurt anyone.


85 posted on 08/16/2013 4:58:18 PM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: kidd

Not so much ignorance as falsehood.


86 posted on 08/16/2013 5:00:40 PM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: jersey117

I object to the notion that Lee was an American General.

He was an American officer in various ranks, but was never promoted to General in the US Army.

He fought against the US Army, taking the side of the insurrection. The terms of his surrender granted him parole, and to my knowledge he didn’t violate the terms of his parole. He applied for a pardon, admitting his treason.

Blanket pardon was granted to all participating in the rebellion by Andrew Johnson. After his death he was given a pardon. (I think in the Ford administration).


87 posted on 08/16/2013 5:04:58 PM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: reg45

My limited understanding is that Jackson kept as Sunday school that didn’t teach reading, but did teach some Christian doctrine.


88 posted on 08/16/2013 5:06:23 PM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: central_va

So courageous of you to pass remarks about my opinions without telling me.

No, I don’t support the banning of Lee’s portrait.

I once had a very nice picture of Lee, a present from a friend, riding with his arm in a sling, in front of a rank of men during the battle of Antietam. I eventually gave it to my brother, who I think still has it. It was done up by a fairly celebrated civil war artist.

Lee as a judge of human talent was a flawed human, as we are all flawed humans. He was highly responsible for inflicting Hood, the confederate general who burned Atlanta, on the western theater. He was a competent engineer, who laid out the entrenchments around Richmond, and his performance in Mexico gave great promise.

I never heard of him doing anything illegal except during the insurrection, and a great many people were deluded by the slave power into supporting the insurrection, so that wouldn’t make him uniquely bad.

Slavery was bad. It institutionalized rape, kidnapping and torture. It gave sociopaths opportunity to do truly horrible things without breaking the law.

The war to promote, protect, and extend slavery was a bad cause.


89 posted on 08/16/2013 5:16:39 PM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: rockrr

Everyone on here that has called Robert E. Lee a traitor. That’s who. You are now in fine company with the Al Sharpton’s gang the NAACP.


90 posted on 08/16/2013 5:51:36 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: NKP_Vet

The “NCAAP” (sic) holds the view that an hour can be divided into 60 minutes. OMG! You are in league with the “NCAAP”!


91 posted on 08/16/2013 6:26:39 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: NKP_Vet
Lee as a traitor. Of course he was.

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.

Has anyone, in the history of this country, been more effective at levying war against the United State than RE Lee? Nope.

He is therefore by definition the most prominent traitor in American history.

That said, in 1861 he was faced with the choice of being a traitor to the United States, which he had honorably served for decades, or a traitor to the State of Virginia, where he had been born and grown up.

He chose to be a traitor to the US, a perfectly honorable decision under the circumstances. About 1/3 of Virginian officers in the regular army, notably including Scott and Thomas, made the opposite choice, an equally honorable one.

Let's cut men faced with a choice of treason against A or B a little slack.

92 posted on 08/16/2013 7:11:18 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

“Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort”.

You just described the mass murderer Ape Lincoln.


93 posted on 08/16/2013 7:19:21 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: NKP_Vet

When did Mr. Lincoln levy war against the United States or adhere to their enemies?

Those he fought claimed to have seceded and were, in their minds, no longer part of the United States.


94 posted on 08/16/2013 7:30:39 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: 0.E.O
most slaves didn't work in the fields.

Would like to see some documentation for this claim. Quite possibly accurate for the state of VA, but not for the South as a whole.

95 posted on 08/16/2013 7:32:34 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: CatherineofAragon

Rape was legal under the regime of the slave power. He was just improving his stock.


96 posted on 08/16/2013 8:06:54 PM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: cuban leaf

I guess my house was unusual. I had a picture of Lee, and a picture of Fredrick Douglass right next to each other.


97 posted on 08/16/2013 8:08:24 PM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: Sherman Logan

See who Judge Napalitano says committed treason.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgA4qYpR5aI


98 posted on 08/16/2013 8:43:42 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: NKP_Vet

If Napolitano claims that anyone other than the confederates committed treason then he is committing the equivalent of journalistic malpractice. He (and you) should be ashamed.


99 posted on 08/16/2013 8:56:36 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: donmeaker

My parents house had a copy of a Washington portrait.


100 posted on 08/16/2013 9:00:33 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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