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To: Carry_Okie
IMHO, the only purpose for a facility as huge as the Utah Data Center was to store EVERYTHING, every phone call, email, and click of the mouse. The big lie is that taking possession of private communications is not a violation of the Fourth Amendment if nobody looks at the content. It is equivalent to raiding your home and copying all your files, and then claiming that it's not an illegal search.

Others have come to the same conclusion. Such a huge data center can only have one purpose. To store all electronic communications within America and that are routed through America on their way from foreign location A to foreign location B. Also the NSA "campus" at Fort Mead Maryland is largely empty. Plenty of room for new buildings and affirmative action drones earning Fererale paychecks///// and they -NSA- are building at Ft Mead like crazy with all kinds of billions of taxpayer dollars and phony (created out of thin air) Federal Resrerve fiat money shoveled in their direction by stupid Senators and Representatives who due to national security concerns (preventing 911 type attacks) will approve all and any NSA funding demands. These Senators and Representatives (and their staffs) are too lazy and technologically illiterate to question NSA funding demands and sort out the legitimate from the illegitimate

It could be the NSA built in Utah (data center) only because they were reaching limits on how much electricity they could demand from DC area utilities to power this Godzilla sized data center. 

The average ipad using idiot has no idea now many megabytes (kilobytes) an audio file or photos will take up and whether it can be stored in smaller size via compression in NSA data centers

NSA mission creep is contractor driven. These contractors are ravenous for Federal money....don't forget that Edward Snowden was a NSA contractor employee. My opinion is 99% of the reason NSA is spying on and storing all Americans communications is simply due to NSA contractors wanting to earn billions and pressuring NSA bureaucrats to expand the NSA mission to internal spying which it never was.

That super dumbass Obama stooge James Clapper was formerly employed by NSA contractor Booze-Hamilton which also employed Snowden, NSA has a revolving door employment situation with its contractors. As usual, follow the $$$$ when it comes to understanding what goes on in Washington DC

MUST READ SCARY--- The Palantir corporation

http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2013/08/14/agent-of-intelligence-how-a-deviant-philosopher-built-palantir-a-cia-funded-data-mining-juggernaut/

http://www.businessinsider.com/palantir-technologies-revealed-2011-3?op=1

40 posted on 08/16/2013 12:14:27 AM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: dennisw
Others have come to the same conclusion. Such a huge data center can only have one purpose. To store all electronic communications within America and that are routed through America on their way from foreign location A to foreign location B.

Period.

46 posted on 08/16/2013 6:08:30 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Islam offers choices: convert, submit, or die.)
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To: dennisw
Interesting read on Palantir. It doesn't look like they have any magic technologies, just a good set of integrated tools (from what I read in the articles and their web site - based on many years experience in big-data analytics). Maybe their platform technologies are crazy fast / complex...?

Narus is used by the NSA for real-time content analytics coming from the Tier-1 Internet pipes. From their Solutions page:

Cyber 3.0: Rise of the Machines

To adapt to the future of cyber, we have to rely on machines to make fast, incisive, critical decisions. Narus cyber analytics solutions apply machine-based algorithms at the atomic metadata level. They fuse enormous volumes of data and continuously learn from new data dynamics for deeper, richer knowledge that provides contextualized, definite answers that are useful for human analysts.


59 posted on 08/16/2013 12:04:01 PM PDT by uncommonsense (Liberals see what they believe; Conservatives believe what they see.)
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To: dennisw
Forgot to make a comment on your main point:

"NSA mission creep is contractor driven. "

I would say mission creep is stakeholder driven - broader than just the contractors. Scale and funding = power, so the gov agents gain power with scope.

But more frightening is that Knowledge = power.

J. E. Hoover learned early that everyone has hidden skeletons of one form or another. So this massive effort for "Total Information Awareness" has taken over the goal of lining one's own pockets with the scraps from IT contracts, to having total leverage over any person or group through complete 360 degree knowledge of everyone - their thoughts, actions, and associations (even types of associations and details of transactions).

60 posted on 08/16/2013 12:19:56 PM PDT by uncommonsense (Liberals see what they believe; Conservatives believe what they see.)
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