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To: i_robot73

The libertarianism you espouse has nothing to do with Constitutional principles or the vision that founded our country. The founders of our country saw nothing wrong with laws criminalizing homosexual acts; in fact they saw such laws as necessary. Article is too long to copy in its entirety. Libertarianism as a philosophy very little to nothing in common with the founding principles of our Republic.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2242920/posts

The Founders on Homosexuality
Apologetics Press ^ | Dave Miller, Ph.D.

Posted on Saturday, May 02, 2009 3:35:50 PM by Conservative Coulter Fan

Of those living today in America who were alive 50 years ago, few could have imagined, let alone predicted, that homosexuality would encroach on our culture as it has. In fact, it would have been unthinkable. The rapidity with which homosexual activists continue successfully to bully the nation to normalize what once was universally considered abnormal is astonishing. And toleration has not satisfied them. Allowing their views to be taught in public schools has not appeased them. No, they insist that societal endorsement extend to redefining marriage to include same-sex couples.

A pernicious plague of sexual insanity is creeping insidiously through American civilization. Far more deadly than the external threat of terrorism, or even the inevitable dilution of traditional American values caused by the infiltration of illegal immigrants and the influx of those who do not share the Christian worldview, this domino effect will ultimately end in the moral implosion of America. Indeed, America is being held captive by moral terrorists. The social engineers of “political correctness” have been working overtime for decades to restructure public morality.

The Founding Fathers of these United States would be incredulous, incensed, and outraged. They understood that acceptance of homosexuality would undermine and erode the moral foundations of civilization. Sodomy, the longtime historical term for same-sex relations, was a capital crime under British common law. Sir William Blackstone, British attorney, jurist, law professor, and political philosopher, authored his monumental Commentaries on the Laws of England from 1765-1769. These commentaries became the premiere legal source admired and used by America’s Founding Fathers. In Book the Fourth, Chapter the Fifteenth, “Of Offences Against the Persons of Individuals,” Blackstone stated:

IV. WHAT has been here observed..., which ought to be the more clear in proportion as the crime is the more detestable, may be applied to another offence, of a still deeper malignity; the infamous crime against nature, committed either with man or beast.... But it is an offence of so dark a nature...that the accusation should be clearly made out....


34 posted on 08/14/2013 1:06:55 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah

Interesting article, thanks for the link.

(Un)fortunately, I am 1) non-religious 2) do not believe the Bible to be the end-all of right vs. wrong (it IS a good basis, as much as many of the World’s religions) 3) can read/comprehend/understand/debate the plain words of the Constitution.

Now, you are more than welcome to your ideas about the (L) Party. Those which you have stated I can only reply, WTF?

Aside from a few planks, IMHO can be ‘remedied’, I can’t see where you’re coming from: Fed. gov’t has few/defined roles, all else, as Rights only exist with the Individual, belong to the People or the State to which they authorize certain tasks. How is that not following the principles/vision?

I, for one, am glad we have evolved past the notion of disemboweling Citizens, depriving TWO (possibly) people of Life, Liberty and the Pursuit, for the ‘sin of sodomy’.

If anything THAT flies in the face of the Constitution and all it stands: Free Peoples able to do what they wish, at any time, as long as it does not interfere or abridge the Rights of others, w/out the threat of the all-mighty State.


42 posted on 08/14/2013 4:20:30 PM PDT by i_robot73 (Gov't always start as MAY and SHOULD, but soon becomes one of WILL and SHALL. Never let them START.)
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