Posted on 08/08/2013 4:24:05 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
Curious you point that out-—The story notes that the hulls are to be “low-magnetic steel”. What that has to mean is that they are some form of high stainless steel. And that ain’t much good in a sea water environment. The only stainless steel in a US sub is in the reactor and the kitchen-—and maybe the terlet. They tried titanium earlier and learned the same thing. But Russian subs do not have a history of lasting very long so maybe Ivan doesn’t care about hull life anyway?
Try to keep up. While the Ruskies are indeed never to be underestimated or taken lightly there is a bunch of stuff that they don’t have. While they CLAIM to have deep diving subs they DO NOT have piping systems that we don’t have. It’s not the hull that limits depth-—it’s the seawater systems. While the SUBROC was a good unit it’s long since been replaced by the HARPOON and its cousins. As to noise, our subs have been quiet holes in the water for over four decades. Russian subs have never been quiet-—we claimed we could hear them coming from a shore-side barstool. Since they had a lot of room to improve I guess it’s easy to make the case that they have? Ivan was never willing to spend money on rubber mounts, flex hoses, and all the small things that go along with them. If you want to have an adventure try to find out where you can buy a rubber flex hose in Russia? Remember our Navy P-3’s? With their sonobuoys they always know where Ivan is.
What happened to the Typhoon boats?
Typhoons were missile boats, extreme lead pigs, and so far as I can tell, the last one was parked for disposal in 1996. Noisy in the extreme simply because they were huge and not streamlined. The Russians should have spent their money making them land-based power plants.
Before telling another Freeper to "Keep up" on a techinical thread, it might be good to have your own house in order.
Perhaps research exactly what the mission of the SUBROC and Harpoon is and how one could possible replace the other.
My bad, got ASROC and SUBROC mixed up, apologies for typing before morning coffee.
Pretty close anyway. ASROC and the more modern vertical launch ASROC were surface ship launched while the Subroc is submarine launched, but all are anti submarine weapons.
Harpoon is an anti surface ship weapon.
And while ASROC had (no longer) a nuclear and conventional torpedo option, the SUBROC had only a nuclear option. The use, I assume, is for long range time urgent ASW, giving the target no warning and no chance of escape. SeaLance was suppose to replace it but the end of the Cold War ended funding, leaving a vacancy in what the SUBROC did. The Mark-48 ADCAP torpedo is the only anti sub weapon on US subs now from what I understand.
The Russians retain the SS-N-15 Starfish which is very similar in function.
My whole point is that the role of SUBROC is now un filled in the USN, whereas our former Cold War adversary still have similar weapons in their inventory.
My whole point is that the role of SUBROC is now un filled in the USN, whereas our former Cold War adversary still have similar weapons in their inventory.
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