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Inside The Courtroom
06 Aug 2013 | Popataz

Posted on 08/06/2013 6:41:43 PM PDT by popataz

Inside the courtroom of the Hasan trial:


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; forthood; hasan; trial
Today, I sat in the Hasan courtroom at Fort Hood. I was called as a prosecution witness. During the last 46 months I have held my voice and not spoke and just listened to all the folks on FR. I feel that I am somewhat responsible for the carnage that was inflicted on Fort Hood. I helped him learn target acquisition and enhanced his abilities to handle a firearm. He gave no indication on what he was going to do with the training he received. I personally believe that when I stand before God then the black marks I received that day can never be omitted from the book of life.
1 posted on 08/06/2013 6:41:43 PM PDT by popataz
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To: popataz

What he did with the skills wasn’t your responsibility, sir. However you did the right thing for telling the truth.


2 posted on 08/06/2013 6:43:31 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Whatever promise that God has made, in Jesus it is yes. See my page.)
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Not your fault. He betrayed you, and us.


3 posted on 08/06/2013 6:43:35 PM PDT by Defiant (In the next rebellion, the rebels will be the ones carrying the American flag.)
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To: popataz
"Army Major (Hasan) Played Role in Presidential (Obama) Transition"


4 posted on 08/06/2013 6:43:49 PM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: Travis McGee

ping back to some 2009 threads


5 posted on 08/06/2013 6:45:29 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: popataz
He gave no indication on what he was going to do with the training he received.

Unless you had an infallible crystal ball which you ignored, you should not feel guilty about doing your job. God knows this--you will not be judged for not knowing that the person you trained was evil. Try not to be so hard on yourself.

6 posted on 08/06/2013 6:47:05 PM PDT by dansangel (Rest in peace, .45MAN)
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To: popataz

If you had known, even suspected, would you have tried to stop him?

If so, you have nothing to apologize for.


7 posted on 08/06/2013 6:47:43 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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Actually I’d be kind of curious (towards them, not you) why they wanted to call you, unless they didn’t know yet if Hasan had let on to you anything about the nefarious things he was going to do in the future (and might or might not have been planning at the time). He aimed and shot and killed, and it seems to me it would not matter to the outcome of the verdict whether he was an amateur or something more.


8 posted on 08/06/2013 6:47:48 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Whatever promise that God has made, in Jesus it is yes. See my page.)
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It is not your fault. God will not hold u accountable for his actions. Don’t carry his guilt.


9 posted on 08/06/2013 7:13:56 PM PDT by yellowdoghunter (Welcome to Obamastan....)
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To: popataz
Today, I sat in the Hasan courtroom at Fort Hood. I was called as a prosecution witness. During the last 46 months I have held my voice and not spoke and just listened to all the folks on FR. I feel that I am somewhat responsible for the carnage that was inflicted on Fort Hood. I helped him learn target acquisition and enhanced his abilities to handle a firearm. He gave no indication on what he was going to do with the training he received. I personally believe that when I stand before God then the black marks I received that day can never be omitted from the book of life.

The Book of Life contains the names of the Saints.
Moreover, to say that any sin you commit is too big for Jesus's work on the cross to handle is the assertion that your finite sin can conquer the infinite God; that is to say that if Jesus can forgive even one sin, then he can forgive all sins.

10 posted on 08/06/2013 7:23:33 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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Also, thank you for your service to our country. Thanks for protecting my freedom.


11 posted on 08/06/2013 7:25:54 PM PDT by yellowdoghunter (Welcome to Obamastan....)
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To: popataz
I personally believe that when I stand before God then the black marks I received that day can never be omitted from the book of life.

Be not down trodden FRiend:

Mark 3:28-29 Truly I tell you, people can be forgiven all their sins and every slander they utter, but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; they are guilty of an eternal sin.”

Ask forgiveness in Jesus' Name, and so it shall be.

Further, being a range/weapons instructor is not a sin. Nor is the driving instructor at fault when an individual he taught to drive that kills a child while DUI.

The devil is attacking you. he is the prince of lies and wants you to believe there is no hope for your salvation. he wants for you to doubt the Power of Christ....he is using the actions of one of his minions [hasan] to bring you guilt....it is not your burden to bear.

Don't fall prey to that; FALL AND PRAY

12 posted on 08/06/2013 7:37:57 PM PDT by Repeat Offender (What good are conservative principles if we don't stand by them?)
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To: popataz

This could be said literally millions of times a day.

Chemistry teachers who imparted knowledge to a future bomb maker.

The mom who bought their teen a car which was used in a deadly accident.

What about the sales clerk who helped the Boston bombers pick out the pressure cooker?

And on, and on.

If I may suggest...

You are suffering from survivors’ guilt and you may need to talk this out with a professional or perhaps attuned people who work with similar stresses. Forgive me if I’m not using the correct terms. Short-term counseling may be enough to give you the strength and strategies for the dark days but you may need more.

I was a caregiver to my handicapped mom for much of my life and fell into a lengthy depression due to watching her suffer from her painful condition as well as feeling stuck and isolated in my life. I felt huge guilt for being able-bodied while she struggled. Now that I’ve had a number of years since her passing to assess the situation, I realize how illogical my thinking was, but at the time I could not break free from the guilt. Guilt is such a heavy bag to carry.

By the way, if I did not want to pursue a professional path (due to job concerns), I would seek out an informal involvement with those connected with organizations helping returning soldiers and establish some friendships where I could freely discuss my burden. Simply exchanging stories can lighten your burden. You may find yourself strengthened by this experience and able to comfort others down the road. Just my humble opinion.


13 posted on 08/06/2013 8:12:16 PM PDT by Shugee
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