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Rachel Jeantel's Language is English It's Just Not Your English
PolicyMic ^ | July 3, 2013 | Marina Bolotnikova

Posted on 08/06/2013 12:04:45 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Last week, Don West, defense attorney in the George Zimmerman murder trial, asked friend of Trayvon Martin and case witness Rachel Jeantel a strange question. “Are you claiming in any way that you don’t understand English?” he inquired, though she had been answering his questions in fluent English throughout much of the previous day. Jeantel, who was born and raised in Miami, insisted that she did, but West wasn’t convinced. He asked her once more whether perhaps, because her first language was Creole (transmitted to her by her Haitian mother), she had any trouble understanding English.

West was not alone. In the days that followed Jeantel’s testimony, the internet was ablaze with comments about her “poor English,” some of them willfully mean-spirited and others prescribing well-intentioned solutions to the perceived problem of widespread ungrammatical English. Well-intentioned or not, ungrammaticality is not a problem that Jeantel had. We need to look elsewhere to understand the strange phenomenon of being accused of not speaking your own language.

Some have rightly denounced the racism implicit in Jeantel’s questioning, admittedly unknown to West, who may well have been confused about her linguistic background. But even well-meaning commentators aiming to vindicate Jeantel have not quite gotten it right. Salon’s Brittney Cooper wrote that Jeantel speaks her own “idiosyncratic” idiom that combines “the three languages – Hatian Kreyol (or Creole), Spanish, and English — that she speaks.” Well, not exactly. Virtually anyone who was born and raised in the United States can speak perfect English without interference from any other language, no matter where their parents came from. The suggestion that Jeantel’s language is peppered with influence from Haitian Creole and Spanish implies that there is something off about her English. There’s nothing wrong with speaking imperfect English, but that doesn’t describe Rachel Jeantel, and to suggest otherwise misses — you might argue even reinforces — the real injustice at the heart of her cross-examination.

That there is nothing incorrect about the way Jeantel speaks is not so much an opinion as an undisputed fact that any authority on language could readily point out. I breathed a sigh of relief last weekend when linguist John McWhorter explained that Jeantel’s “English is perfect. It’s just that it’s Black English.” What McWhorter calls “Black English” is a dialect spoken by millions of Americans, and decades of linguistics research, much of it compiled by McWhorter himself, attests that it is a robust dialect like any other, with an internally consistent grammar and vocabulary. Many of those millions of speakers speak exclusively African American English in their communities, only to be taught from their earliest interactions with American public institutions, as schoolchildren, that their dialect is ungrammatical.

Jeantel’s English is not any more or less grammatical than the Standard American variety spoken by Zimmerman’s attorney, but unlike the defense attorney, she did not have the advantage of speaking the dialect that is sanctioned by America’s dominant social stratum. Linguists like John McWhorter fervidly oppose linguistic prescription — the practice of prescribing rules governing language use that do not reflect the way that people speak in practice — which they hold to baselessly and arbitrarily privilege certain varieties of speech over others. Linguistic prescription may be baseless, but it is not arbitrary at all: Prescriptivism systematically and invariably privileges the language of the already powerful.

Perhaps it should come as no surprise that the Trayvon Martin case, which thrust the persistence of racism in America uncomfortably into the spotlight, has continued to clumsily illustrate the structural disadvantages encountered by millions of black Americans. African Americans are victim not just to gross racial profiling, as was Trayvon Martin, but also to linguistic discrimination, a little-understood prejudice that springs directly from linguistic prescription. Some forms of prescription, like rules against split infinitives and ending sentences in prepositions, illogically impose grammatical rules that do not naturally occur in language, but are, on some level, harmless. Others, like our culture’s categorical repudiation of African American English, have social ramifications easily as severe as racial profiling. It can be awfully difficult to excel in school, to succeed in the professional world, or to deliver credible testimony in court when virtually every institution in your society operates with the assumption that your language is fundamentally incorrect and takes it as an indicator of your intelligence.

Many have already pointed out that Rachel Jeantel was wrongly cast as unreliable and combative last week because of her race, gender, and size. We need to add language to that list. It is not because of her flawed English, as some have suggested, but in spite of her perfectly articulated English that Jeantel was discriminated against. Linguistic discrimination is just one of many mechanisms that systemically disadvantage African Americans in the U.S., but it is a crucial one. There are few things so disempowering as being silenced for the language that you speak.


TOPICS: Education
KEYWORDS: bloggers; english; language; racheljeantel; trayvon; zimmerman
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1 posted on 08/06/2013 12:04:45 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I got just two words for you ...


2 posted on 08/06/2013 12:09:17 AM PDT by dr_lew
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Dats just retarted....


3 posted on 08/06/2013 12:10:24 AM PDT by Dick Vomer (democrats are like flies, whatever they don't eat they sh#t on.)
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To: dr_lew
I'm surprised she could speak at all, with that golf cart tire stuck in her throat.
4 posted on 08/06/2013 12:15:45 AM PDT by BigCinBigD (...Was that okay?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Rachel Jeantel proof positive some people have no business breeding


5 posted on 08/06/2013 12:15:49 AM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Let’s go back to tribal drums. Everyone walk around with bongos on their hips. Then there can be no unfair advantage because of language.


6 posted on 08/06/2013 12:15:55 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Poo...steaming pile of...this article is...


8 posted on 08/06/2013 12:16:26 AM PDT by prisoner6 ( FREEDOM!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
He asked her once more whether perhaps, because her first language was Creole (transmitted to her by her Haitian mother), she had any trouble understanding English. …
Alor! Racism.
9 posted on 08/06/2013 12:16:42 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Oh barf. Just plain barf.

There are other words that apply also..

10 posted on 08/06/2013 12:17:42 AM PDT by NoCmpromiz (John 14:6 is a non-pluralistic comment.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yo Marina, let me ax you, why you talk so much. Shuup, b*tch. You don’t know nuthin. You be my ho. Gimme the money and foget all that jive-a$s bull./s

And to the NSA trolls, FU.


11 posted on 08/06/2013 12:21:20 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: Dick Vomer

Datz retard sur


12 posted on 08/06/2013 12:21:31 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (People are idiots.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Where the can juice at?


13 posted on 08/06/2013 12:23:06 AM PDT by novascotianative
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It is this kind of nonsense that is keeping blacks down. It is a form of patronizing and pandering. They should be ashamed. If you don’t speak standard English in this country, you cannot get a good job. What kind of English does Obama speak?


14 posted on 08/06/2013 12:24:21 AM PDT by Essie
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"Black" english. Really.

I wonder what the "Black" English citizens think of that.

With decades of abuse heaped upon those who were continually derided for speaking "Country" or "Southern"/"Redneck"/"Hick" as being somehow of below-par intelligence thereby, this Preferentially Objectified Scuzzbucket (POS) somehow thinks that makes that troglodyte-appearing numbskull just simply misunderstood and really actually "normal" somehow?

Words fail Me...

15 posted on 08/06/2013 12:25:05 AM PDT by Utilizer (Ba-con Ah'hkkba'aar! (although Hersheys come in a close second))
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To: al baby

Supposing it is, then what? Whatever you may call it, it’s highly influential in the larger society. I think it’s a mistake to equate the mode of expression with the dissembling that seemed evident in this witness’ testimony. I’m a diehard universalist. People are people, politics aside.


16 posted on 08/06/2013 12:25:14 AM PDT by dr_lew
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To: dr_lew
You is what you is.

You ain't what you not.

She be talkin' like some nappy-head fool, so nobody wit' a real brain be fooled by pretenden' she aint. If you looks like a stop-sign, don' matter 'f somebody paints u purples. You jus' aint raht an mos' ev'bady knows it.

17 posted on 08/06/2013 12:32:09 AM PDT by Utilizer (Ba-con Ah'hkkba'aar! (although Hersheys come in a close second))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

18 posted on 08/06/2013 12:35:12 AM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: Utilizer

Sounds like it comes pretty naturally to you.

No’m sayin’ ? Whoop, there it is.


19 posted on 08/06/2013 12:35:46 AM PDT by dr_lew
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To: Utilizer

Some black parents do not insist on proper English and this is what happens.

Its not black English its poor parenting.

My parents insisted my brothers & sisters speak well.
We don’t use slang like the n word because we were raised not to.

My mom will still correct my 30 something sister’s language.


20 posted on 08/06/2013 12:38:44 AM PDT by RginTN
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To: dr_lew

“I got just two words for you ...”

Shawn Michaels, is that you?


21 posted on 08/06/2013 12:42:02 AM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company after the election, & laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: LeoWindhorse

“Rachel Jeantel proof positive some people have no business breeding”

I shudder to think what kind of species from National Geographic this creature came from..


22 posted on 08/06/2013 12:43:03 AM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company after the election, & laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

When did they stop teaching English in schools and replace it with Ebonics ?


23 posted on 08/06/2013 12:43:40 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

it depends on what drum-beat dialect you drum...


24 posted on 08/06/2013 12:50:47 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Somebody is spending in excess of $50k a year to send this Marina to Harvard so she can sign up for the “Urban Program” and learn to spout utter nonsense. Harvard is a cess pool. If she were to walk through certain neighborhoods the feral humans living therein would be just as happy to rape and kill her skinny white ass as they would mine.


25 posted on 08/06/2013 12:50:48 AM PDT by KevinB (A country that would elect Barack Obama president twice is no longer worth fighting for.)
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To: RginTN

Children learn the language that they hear. Admonishments are futile. I might as well complain that my grandchildren don’t speak proper Chinese.


26 posted on 08/06/2013 12:52:20 AM PDT by dr_lew
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Some years ago the esteemed Walter Williams said that if you see that your future lies in prison then learn ebonics. If you see that your future lies in business then learn Standard English.


27 posted on 08/06/2013 1:03:06 AM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: dr_lew

My Chinese wife does complain that our grand kids don’t speak good Chinese


28 posted on 08/06/2013 1:05:57 AM PDT by Fai Mao (Genius at Large)
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To: Olog-hai

>>>He asked her once more whether perhaps, because her first language was Creole (transmitted to her by her Haitian mother), she had any trouble understanding English. …
Alor! Racism.<<<

I think “Creole” is a Spanish-based analogue of Niglish.


29 posted on 08/06/2013 1:08:08 AM PDT by cunning_fish
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To: RginTN
Indeed. One of the heroes I still remember from High School was Mr. Davis. His dad was a real nice guy, worked at the cannery in Santa Clara County and managed to get most of his kids into college.

I had never seen a black man swell up and turn purple with rage until one of the kids in class had the gall to tell him that what he was teaching us was "too white", and My classmate could not be expected to learn it because "I's black".

Mr. Davis's response was obviously not what the kid expected, and the rest of us laughed about it for months, and until the day I graduated I could always make him hide a smile and cough in embarrasment whenever I brough up the incident. To this day, he is still "Mr. Davis", and his dad is always "Sir".

30 posted on 08/06/2013 1:08:13 AM PDT by Utilizer (Ba-con Ah'hkkba'aar! (although Hersheys come in a close second))
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To: Utilizer

Ahem... “brought”, not “brough”. Typing too fast.


31 posted on 08/06/2013 1:12:29 AM PDT by Utilizer (Ba-con Ah'hkkba'aar! (although Hersheys come in a close second))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Well what the article misses is the correlation of students who learn to speak "dialect that is sanctioned by America’s dominant social stratum" and grades and graduation rates. I'll hazard to say without any research or proof offered that students who haven't grown beyond eubonics are poor academic performers with high drop out / arrest rates and that the only reason they get passing grades and graduate is teachers and faculty actively hiding the problem .... much like they did in Atlanta.
32 posted on 08/06/2013 1:13:24 AM PDT by Usagi_yo
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To: Utilizer

I read a british blog and apparently there is a problem there where some speak the british version of ebonics.

Poor parenting is global.


33 posted on 08/06/2013 1:17:50 AM PDT by RginTN
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
There are few things so disempowering as being silenced for the language that you speak.

If all else fails, try speaking regular English.

People who insist upon behaving differently shouldn't be surprised when they're treated differently.

34 posted on 08/06/2013 1:21:03 AM PDT by Standing Wolf
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To: RginTN
Yes, there are slang words pretty much everywhere you look, the difference being that most people with a smidgen of intelligence realize that proper english is expected for a normal conversation. I grew up with many of My formative years on the wrong side of the tracks in San Jose, and all the schools had students of every ethnicity imaginable. However, by the time we graduated we ALL spoke normally and were expected to get decent jobs to support ourselves, since you do not accept someone speaking the gutter-slang we all knew to be appointed to say a Vice President position at IBM or Hewlitt-Packard.

Anyone who thinks that speaking like a criminal will impress shareholders or investors, let alone any company's paying clientelle is not only a fool but a continual risk to anyone who associates with them.

I may accept someone who comes up to Me on the streets and greets Me informally in such a manner, but in a business or legal environment no bloody way. I will find someone else with demonstrably better intelligence to deal with.

35 posted on 08/06/2013 1:29:38 AM PDT by Utilizer (Ba-con Ah'hkkba'aar! -although Hersheys come in a close second.)
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To: Standing Wolf
If all else fails, try speaking regular English.

People who insist upon behaving differently shouldn't be surprised when they're treated differently.

Exactly. Coming from the boonies of northern Vermont, REAL Vermonter, not trust fund hippy, My ancestors and I speak a dialect few of you could easily understand.

I can usually tell even what town many folks are from in the area by the differences in their speech.

That being said, most of us also speak proper, and I do mean VERY proper, not the slang you see on the internet, English.

There is nothing wrong with having regional or ethnic dialects.

I think hearing the huge variety of dialects in the USA and Canada is fascinating.

However, as an American we ALL should speak "PROPER" English for such places as in court or dealing with any situation involving people outside of your normal dialect.

36 posted on 08/06/2013 1:37:21 AM PDT by Mogger (Independence, better fuel economy and performance with American made synthetic oil.)
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To: Eagles6

‘Some years ago the esteemed Walter Williams said that if you see that your future lies in prison then learn ebonics. If you see that your future lies in business then learn Standard English.’

like the entire board of General Motors dont speak eubonics...what an oreo..


37 posted on 08/06/2013 1:44:33 AM PDT by jimsin
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

here we go again with this “Black English” crap

and car jacking is just a “Black Howdy”


38 posted on 08/06/2013 1:48:43 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: Cronos

The insect world might have some alternatives to spoken language that we can use.


39 posted on 08/06/2013 1:50:20 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: dr_lew

‘I got just two words for you ...’

sacre bleu?


40 posted on 08/06/2013 1:53:26 AM PDT by jimsin
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Her language skills and her (lack of) reading skills cause me to wonder how she managed to get past the third grade. She is the prime example of what’s wrong with our schools. She should have been flunked repeatedly until she mastered the requirements of each grade. But instead, she was passed on each school year in hopes that the next teacher in line might have better luck.

I refuse to believe that she couldn’t do a LOT better if she applied herself. But she never had to do so because the reward of graduation was given regardless of achievement.


41 posted on 08/06/2013 2:00:37 AM PDT by meyer (What would John Hancock do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

By refusing to learn actual English they opt out of the world of work and prosperity in exchange for Official Victimhood and parasitic living.


42 posted on 08/06/2013 2:04:47 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE http://steshaw.org/econohttp://www.fee.org/library/det)
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To: meyer

My aunts, uncles and mother all graduated from Miami Edison High School and went on to lead productive lives. One uncle founded, ran and owned a large chain of banks in Florida for many years and was friends with President Nixon and other worthies and an aunt was the school nurse at Rutgers University for decades. They were poorer than Rachel Jeantel could ever imagine back then.


43 posted on 08/06/2013 2:07:21 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
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To: arthurus

That lifestyle will soon be a thing of the past. I don’t know when it will become unsustainable, just that it will. There was a day in Rome when bread and circuses were no longer doled out and that day will arrive here, as well, sooner or later. Now we have EBT cards, Obamaphones and reality television, but it’s basically the same thing.


44 posted on 08/06/2013 2:11:21 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We all come from the same cloth....Can’t change......I still liked those cotton Khakis starched....with a starched field jacket trussed up correctly. Spit shined jump boots just so...


45 posted on 08/06/2013 2:15:24 AM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; al baby; Olog-hai; fieldmarshaldj; dr_lew
If'n you a cole toni then you betta sine yo pitty on the runny kine.
46 posted on 08/06/2013 2:20:38 AM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: max americana

Shudder more when you ponder that Jenteal is pretty much the level we need to be dumbed down to in the name of equality.

I believe Huxley called them Deltas and Epsilons. I also believe that we are living a bastardized cross between 1984 and Brave New World. Realirt outside my window seems to verify it more with each passing day.


47 posted on 08/06/2013 2:29:39 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is bullcrap.

Rachel’s communication problem wasn’t because she was speaking “black English”.

Rachel wasn’t understandable because she refused to speak loudly enough, and she mumbled.

Yes, sir.


48 posted on 08/06/2013 2:31:53 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: shibumi


49 posted on 08/06/2013 2:35:33 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
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To: shibumi

Oh, Mrs. Cleaver...

50 posted on 08/06/2013 2:36:53 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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