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Relics unearthed in Turkey may contain piece of Jesus' cross
Fox News ^ | August 01, 2013

Posted on 08/01/2013 9:26:53 AM PDT by Sopater

Archeologists conducting excavations at the site of a church in Turkey have unearthed a stone chest containing a relic that may be part of the cross on which Jesus was crucified.

The items were discovered during a large-scale excavation at the Balatlar Church, which was built in A.D. 660 near the Black Sea, Today's Zaman reported.

Professor Gülgün Köroğlu, an associate professor at Turkey's Mimar Sinan Fine Arts University and excavation leader, told the newspaper the artifacts are linked to Jesus' crucifixion.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: balatlarchurch; christianity; constantine; cross; flaviaiuliahelena; godsgravesglyphs; history; holysepulchre; jesus; relics; truecross; turkey
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To: ArrogantBustard

happens to me all the time....

you take things way to seriously. no doubt heart disease is already in progress. I mean really lighten up a bit will you


21 posted on 08/01/2013 9:53:09 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: UCANSEE2

“...worshipping the cross...”

Wearing a reminder of what Jesus went through is not an act of worship. It is a reminder of Jesus’ sacrifice. This does not constitute worship. it helps a person stay recollected because there are many distractions in modern life.


22 posted on 08/01/2013 9:53:12 AM PDT by stonehouse01 (Equal rights for unborn women)
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To: ArrogantBustard; Nifster
To be blunt: this one is false.

I imagine that Mr. Calvin forgot to add his /sarcasm tag.
23 posted on 08/01/2013 9:54:56 AM PDT by Sopater (Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? - Matthew 20:15a)
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To: Sopater

Perhaps you should do a little research. Even just a tiny bit ... follow the link I provided upthread.


24 posted on 08/01/2013 9:55:10 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: tumblindice

I thought it was George that cut down the Cherry Tree...not Lincoln. /s


25 posted on 08/01/2013 9:56:20 AM PDT by Portcall24
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To: Sopater

Cool.


26 posted on 08/01/2013 9:57:20 AM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Sopater

In 348 A.D., St Helen learned that relics from Calvary were being held near Jerusalem. She went there and brought back some artifacts. The relics are in a very old church built to house them in Rome. The original church columns (still in use) have been dated to 400 A.D.

The relics include a purported thorn from the Crown, two pieces of the Holy Cross, a nail from the Cross, and a piece of the Cross of the Good Thief. Also, a piece of wood believed to be half of the marker from the top of the Cross was found hidden in a wall in the church in 1492. The inscription on the wood is very interesting.

The name of the church is Santa Croce in Gerusalemme. The photos on the net are impressive too, but seeing those things in person is very moving, whatever their provenance. This church is one of my favorite stops in Rome. There is also a full-length backlit replica of the Shroud of Turin in this church. It is stunning.


27 posted on 08/01/2013 9:57:38 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (....Let It Burn...)
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To: ArrogantBustard
...the last refuge of the scoundrel.

I thought that that was patriotism.
28 posted on 08/01/2013 9:57:45 AM PDT by Sopater (Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? - Matthew 20:15a)
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To: Sopater; Nifster
Even if Mr. Calvin was deliberately employing hyperbole, the underlying point (that the mass of "true cross relics" added together exceeds a reasonable estimate of the mass of the whole "true cross") is still false.

Sorry, guys.

If you want to live your lives wallowing in false "black legend", that's your problem. Don't expect not to be reproved for it.

Have a blessed day.

29 posted on 08/01/2013 9:59:56 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: tumblindice

You know those wacky Turks
They’re knocking-off stuff all the time.

Star Wars
Star Trek
The Cross of the Son of God...


30 posted on 08/01/2013 10:01:02 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Sopater

This interwebs thingy has offered scoundrels many new, previously undreamt of avenues for attempting to escape their knavery.


31 posted on 08/01/2013 10:01:58 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard
Perhaps you should do a little research. Even just a tiny bit ... follow the link I provided upthread.

I did... surely you don't believe that all relics are certainly from the "true cross" until the point is reached where their sum is greater than that of an actual cross, right?
32 posted on 08/01/2013 10:02:07 AM PDT by Sopater (Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? - Matthew 20:15a)
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To: Sopater
Dispersal of relics of the True Cross.

Enjoy.

33 posted on 08/01/2013 10:04:57 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard; Nifster
If you want to live your lives wallowing in false "black legend", that's your problem. Don't expect not to be reproved for it.

Scepticism is "black legend"? Who knew...
34 posted on 08/01/2013 10:05:37 AM PDT by Sopater (Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? - Matthew 20:15a)
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To: ArrogantBustard

You’re going to ask me to read it twice? No thanks.


35 posted on 08/01/2013 10:06:12 AM PDT by Sopater (Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? - Matthew 20:15a)
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To: Sopater
Read it a third time if necessary for comprehension. Here:

Conflicting with this is the finding of Charles Rohault de Fleury, who, in his Mémoire sur les instruments de la Passion 1870 made a study of the relics in reference to the criticisms of Calvin and Erasmus. He drew up a catalogue of all known relics of the True Cross showing that, in spite of what various authors have claimed, the fragments of the Cross brought together again would not reach one-third that of a cross which has been supposed to have been three or four meters in height, with transverse branch of two meters wide, proportions not at all abnormal. He calculated: supposing the Cross to have been of pine-wood (based on his microscopic analysis of the fragments) and giving it a weight of about seventy-five kilograms, we find the original volume of the cross to be 0.178 cubic meters. The total known volume of known relics of the True Cross, according to his catalogue, amounts to approximately 0.004 cubic meters (more specifically 3,942,000 cubic millimeters), leaving a volume of 0.174 cubic meters lost, destroyed, or otherwise unaccounted for.

Have you seen that paragraph before? Do you understand it?

Again, Have a blessed day.

36 posted on 08/01/2013 10:09:09 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: tumblindice
I’ve got Abraham Lincoln’s McCulloch chainsaw. I know what you’re thinking, but it came with a Certificate of Authenticity.

You must have gotten it from the same place where I got my painting of "Dogs Playing Poker" by Leonardo da Vinci.

37 posted on 08/01/2013 10:09:19 AM PDT by GreenHornet
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To: ArrogantBustard

Yes, I have and I do.

You have a blessed day, too.

Thanks.


38 posted on 08/01/2013 10:10:05 AM PDT by Sopater (Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? - Matthew 20:15a)
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To: Sopater

The Shroud of Turin sure was kept in mighty good condition. I am a skeptical person but have learned of nothing which proves it is fake. Quite the contrary, especially with the most recent study by those bending over backwards to prove it’s fake but couldn’t.


39 posted on 08/01/2013 10:12:37 AM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: massgopguy

I saw all of it.


40 posted on 08/01/2013 10:13:51 AM PDT by jodyel
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