Posted on 08/01/2013 8:04:12 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
So, I guess that means that Ron Paul isn’t a ‘real’ libertarian either? Huh. Who knew?
It’s fascinating to watch this. First of all, lesson number one, for Rand Paul, who is, by the way, not a libertarian. If you believe you ought to be able to tell women what to do with their reproductive rights you are not a libertarian. Lesson number one for Rand Paul, do not take on a guy from Jersey. Obviously this guy does not watch HBO, and, you know, you’re not going to win a fight like this with Chris Christie. That’s not the way it’s going to go.
First of all, no, I don’t know that we would classify Rand Paul as a full-blown, isolationist libertarian looking for a major retrenchment away from the world, and you could reasonably mention that point when the issue at hand is the recent foreign-policy tiff with Chris Christie in the neoconservative corner and Paul representing the recent libertarian-leaning shift. But, why on earth bring up abortion as a libertarian disqualifier in a conversation in which we’re discussing the two sides of the GOP’s national-security spectrum? A, how does it apply? And B, since when can libertarians not be pro-life? I’m pretty sure if Howard Dean thought about it for a moment, he could rationally conceive of why there’s still plenty of debate on abortion among the libertarian set — “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness,” no?
Well, Howard, maybe he’s protecting the liberty of the child in the womb so his/her life isn’t snuffed out.
The yet to be born are not entitled to liberty?
RE: The yet to be born are not entitled to liberty?
To the Dems, they don’t.
I thought Paul was a Republican.
The libertarian position on abortion:
“Recognizing that abortion is a sensitive issue and that people can hold good-faith views on all sides, we believe that government should be kept out of the matter, leaving the question to each person for their conscientious consideration.”
So, love him or hate him, Howard Dean is right on this then...
This from a likely former abortionist.
Someone should advise the Doctor to take his time, and not skip over essential steps in the reasoning process.
William Flax
That is the current and permanent, platform statement on abortion of the their party.
1.4 Abortion
Recognizing that abortion is a sensitive issue and that people can hold good-faith views on all sides, we believe that government should be kept out of the matter, leaving the question to each person for their conscientious consideration.
That's the Libertarian Party's position and it reflects the division among libertarians on the issue.
There are libertarians that argue protection of the unborn is an expression of the government's obligation to protect the innocent against force or fraud. Other libertarians argue that there isn't yet a person to protect.
The difference between the two groups has nothing to do with the philosophy of libertarianism, but instead with questions about the beginning of personhood.
Like a fair number of Freepers (sadly), Dr. Dumbass doesn’t know the difference between the Libertarian Party, and libertarian philosophy.
“I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism” RWR
Yes, but he doesn’t know why he’s right, or much of anything else. Ron Paul left the Libertarian Party in no small part over abortion. I think we can assume it plays a big role for his son as well.
There’s a large body of pro-life libertarians. I’m one.
Please note the small “l.” The large “L” Libertarians are as corrupted as the R’s and D’s.
He only like liberaltarians which want the government to fund killing the unborn and support turning schools into lgbt indoctrination camps.
No there isn't, they exist but they aren't large enough to change the fundamentals of libertarianism.
Rand Paul must be doing a lot right if Dean feels the need to say or primal scream something quotable.
Atta boy, Rand!
Rand Paul never called himself a libertarian. He always said that he was a constitutional conservative.
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