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Americans don’t care about the sequester
Washington Post ^ | July 31, 2013 | Sean Sullivan

Posted on 07/31/2013 11:23:02 AM PDT by 11th_VA

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Folks, this is why the GOP strategy should be to stay with Sequestration, and don't get off on some tangent over defunding Obamacare. Another poll says Americans don't want to see the Gov't shutdown over Obamacare.

This is politics folks. Ride the issue people agree with you on. Let Obamacare take root, then let it fail, but insist on the budget limits agreed to in Sequestration.

1 posted on 07/31/2013 11:23:02 AM PDT by 11th_VA
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To: 11th_VA

Americans hate Obamacare. Seems like we are riding the issue people agree with us on by getting rid of it.


2 posted on 07/31/2013 11:24:55 AM PDT by ilgipper (Obama is proving that very bad ideas can be wrapped up in pretty words)
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Typical. A lot of “Americans don’t know enough” and “Americans aren’t sure” responses. This happened in ‘08 and ‘12. Ask them who their favorite “Bachelor” is and they’ll rattle off a dozen names.


3 posted on 07/31/2013 11:28:38 AM PDT by albie (re)
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To: ilgipper
>>Americans don’t care about the sequester<<

Oh but yes we do!!!

Cut more, in fact, sequester all day long, every day until 25% of the federal government no longer exist.

Then take all these b@5t@rds at the IRS and putt’em in jail for terrorizing Americans.

4 posted on 07/31/2013 11:29:44 AM PDT by servantboy777
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Americans hate Obamcare, and they hate Gov’t shutdowns. I’m just saying don’t endanger your standing in the polls doing something Americans don’t like. Use your opposition to Obamacare as an issue, but don’t threaten to shutdown Gov’t - and the press will SAY Republicans shut down Gov’t.


5 posted on 07/31/2013 11:33:55 AM PDT by 11th_VA (It's all about culture, not color)
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It isn’t that Americans “hate” Obamacare, they don’t want to be seen as “hating” the architect of the “Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act of 2010”.

Far too circumspect and careful to criticize an obvious flop and failure, because it might be considered “racist”, the sheeple meekly go along, with some expectation that something will turn up so they may continue to muddle through. After all, isn’t there a whole big safety net out there, food stamps, rent subsidies, and mortgage adjustments among a few?

Never mind that the prices are going way higher on energy costs, and indirectly are reflected in the prices of just about everything else. If the money supply had not been artificially pumped up over the past several rounds of “quantitative easing”, we would see interest rates in the range that was common in 1980, the last year of the Carter era, and with the unemployment rates being reported with the same methods of accounting used then, the “misery index” would rival or exceed the state of the nation as of January, 1981.


6 posted on 07/31/2013 11:41:51 AM PDT by alloysteel (Unattended children will be given a Red Bull and a free Kazoo. Reminds me of Congress...)
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To: 11th_VA

Well the earth did not stop spinning, and life seems to go on, despite all that Obama claimed it would do so DO IT AGAIN.


7 posted on 07/31/2013 11:48:17 AM PDT by Mr. K (Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics, and then Democrat Talking Points.)
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Hey, WaPo: more than half of Americans don’t know enough about Benghazi or the IRS targeting. Who’s fault is that and why?


8 posted on 07/31/2013 11:49:46 AM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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The sun came up again today
It certainly didn’t keep the tax man away
Obama vacations went on without a hitch
Boy that sequester was tough, huh?


9 posted on 07/31/2013 11:53:21 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: servantboy777

It’s too bad the sequester doesn’t apply to the king’s vacations and golf outings.


10 posted on 07/31/2013 11:55:13 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: servantboy777
Cut more, in fact, sequester all day long, every day until 25% of the federal government no longer exist.

You're far too generous; what we ought to do is cut every federal government agency not (a) specifically mandated, or be entirely due directly to enforcement/implementation of something directly in the constitution… and then look to trim those down as well.

The above would leave only a few agencies/departments:

  1. Army,
  2. Navy,
  3. IRS (they do collect taxes; and the 16th Amendment is part of the constitution),
  4. Post Office,
  5. Secret Service (they investigate counterfeiting; mentioned in the Constitution)
  6. DOT (providing for roads is mentioned in the constitution)
That said:
-- Strip the SS of all duties protecting politicians; they are to only be about pursuing counterfeiting operations,
-- Alter the DOT to be more emphasized on keeping the roads clear and under repair,
-- Take a serious, hard look at the 2-year limitation on Army funding.

That's how you cut down government.

11 posted on 07/31/2013 11:58:49 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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but insist on the budget limits agreed to in Sequestration

Excuse me pal, but in doing so you're basically telling me that I have to support sequestration and agree to the government taking 20% of my pay and not worrying about it.

NOT ON YOUR LIFE! Go peddle your ridiculous ideas somewhere else.

12 posted on 07/31/2013 12:15:06 PM PDT by ducttape45
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To: GeronL
Boy that sequester was tough, huh?

Yes it is!. A 20% pay cut because the government can't cut funding elsewhere.

13 posted on 07/31/2013 12:18:27 PM PDT by ducttape45
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To: OneWingedShark

I agree almost entirely except you have to include all of DOD. If airflight was posisble in the days of the Founding Fathers they would have authorized it. Defense is a legitimate function of government.

There are also other pieces of defense buried in other agencies (Centers for disease control, national institutes of health are two that come to mind.)

But the bottom line is the same. Get the fedgov out of anything not authorized by the Constitution.


14 posted on 07/31/2013 12:31:28 PM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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Sequestration is a very good thing (the budget must be cut somehow). But we need to cut those areas that are not constitutional. If you work for an unconstitutional agency then I suggest you change agencies to get into the legitimate part of government.

I’m taking the cut too, and I don’t like it, but how else are we going to decrease the size of government?


15 posted on 07/31/2013 12:33:54 PM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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*****Grammar nerd alert!!!!*******

"Americans don’t care about the sequester"

Yeah, but what to they think about the sequestration, hmmmmm?

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

16 posted on 07/31/2013 12:35:03 PM PDT by wku man (Amnesty? No Way, Jose (No Se Puede!) by 10 Pound Test http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsTUQ8yOI2c)
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don't get off on some tangent over defunding Obamacare

Tanget?

TANGENT?

17 posted on 07/31/2013 12:35:16 PM PDT by M. Thatcher
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I agree almost entirely except you have to include all of DOD.

No, you don't: Marines are Navy, and Air Force could be rolled back int the Army Air Corp.

If airflight was posisble in the days of the Founding Fathers they would have authorized it. Defense is a legitimate function of government.

It may be legitimate, but Army and Navy are the only ones authorized by the Constitution -- if you want more, then an amendment should be adopted. BTW, this would shake up the whole defense industry [corporations], and that might be a good thing.

There are also other pieces of defense buried in other agencies (Centers for disease control, national institutes of health are two that come to mind.)

*shrug* -- Sucks to be them.

But the bottom line is the same. Get the fedgov out of anything not authorized by the Constitution

Wait, here you are arguing not exactly following the constitution and ending with a get govt out of things not authorized by the constitution?
That's pretty inconsistent. (Also, if something is really needed and proper to the federal government, then there's no reason not to use a Constitutional amendment.)

18 posted on 07/31/2013 12:41:00 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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"Sequester" - another carefully picked term by the politicians to help confuse the public and obfuscate what the politicians, Left mainly, are up to, in true Orwellian, "1984" style.

"Americans don't care about the sequester" because half don't even know what they're talking about.

19 posted on 07/31/2013 1:03:49 PM PDT by PapaNew
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>>That’s how you cut down government.<<

Yea, we can dream can’t we.

As far as the IRS, go to a national sales tax, flat or whatever and cut this agency to the bone.


20 posted on 07/31/2013 1:18:16 PM PDT by servantboy777
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