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Inside Boehner's Strategy to Slow Walk Immigration to the Finish Line
National Journal ^ | July 30, 2013 | Chris Frates

Posted on 07/30/2013 5:52:30 PM PDT by Hojczyk

Keeping immigration on the back-burner helps avoid a recess filled with angry town-hall meetings reminiscent of the heated August 2009 protests where the backlash against health care reform coalesced. Doing nothing also starves Democrats of a target, Republicans argue.

But for Boehner, who by all accounts wants to see some kind of immigration reform pass, that raised serious strategic problems.

First, passing tougher enforcement measures before August would take all the momentum away from other more divisive measures, such as giving “Dreamers,” the children brought to the United States illegally, a legal option for staying in the country. While House leaders publicly insist on dealing with the immigration issues separately, they privately are wary of letting their piecemeal approach be taken out of context.

So Boehner, Cantor, and McCarthy have privately discussed holding off on immigration until October. (September has only nine legislative days that will be jammed with fiscal negotiations as House Republicans and Senate Democrats scramble to fund the government after the fiscal year ends Sept. 30.) The August break gives Republicans time to chart a course on immigration ahead of a packed fall schedule that leaves little time for strategizing.

(Excerpt) Read more at nationaljournal.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; US: California; US: Ohio; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; amnesty4illegals; california; chrisfrates; ericcantor; johnboehner; karlrove; kevinmccarthy; ohio; paulryan; randsconcerntrolls; virginia
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1 posted on 07/30/2013 5:52:30 PM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: Hojczyk

slow walk to HELL


2 posted on 07/30/2013 5:54:06 PM PDT by ptsal (Repubicans swallowing more kool-aide from Rove & Kristol)
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To: Hojczyk

I am sure we are all shocked by this. NOT


3 posted on 07/30/2013 5:57:05 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Hojczyk

Boehner, Cantor and McCarthy = GOP Axis of Evil.


4 posted on 07/30/2013 5:57:58 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Hojczyk

Contact your congress critter, people. You know the other side is.


5 posted on 07/30/2013 5:59:46 PM PDT by concentric circles
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To: Hojczyk

I would like to see Limbaugh and Levin publicly call for his political head. No more. We have to create a turning point or our RINO leaders will destroy the country.


6 posted on 07/30/2013 6:02:29 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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To: Hojczyk

I’m voting straight tea party from here on out.


7 posted on 07/30/2013 6:02:52 PM PDT by Usagi_yo
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To: Hojczyk

The illegals will be 1st in line for 0bamacare.

“Did you imagine that anyone would even be talking about having a panel of so-called “experts” deciding who could and could not get life-saving medical treatments?

Scary as that is from a medical standpoint, it is also chilling from the standpoint of freedom. If you have a mother who needs a heart operation or a child with some dire medical condition, how free would you feel to speak out against an administration that has the power to make life and death decisions about your loved ones?”

http://olbroad.com/2009/11/page/9/


8 posted on 07/30/2013 6:04:48 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: ptsal

Boehner aint walkin anything anywhere. This party is NOW finished. It is all out political war with Dr. Paul ( my leader) and fat head from New Jersey who is a front for another Bush. I now commit to repent for my vote for Romney by never doing that RINO crap again. Karl Rove is a socialist Devil. Let us get it on!!!! If you are in the middle of the road — you get RUN OVER!! FREEDOM from NSA— FREEDOM to keep my money!!.


9 posted on 07/30/2013 6:06:57 PM PDT by SADMILLIE
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To: Hojczyk

Can’t wait to watch you hand the gavel to Nancy, John.


10 posted on 07/30/2013 6:07:13 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
Boehner, Cantor and McCarthy = GOP Axis of Evil.

You left out Ryan.

11 posted on 07/30/2013 6:12:42 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: chris37
Can’t wait to watch you hand the gavel to Nancy, John.

Actually, I can't wait to return him to the private sector.

12 posted on 07/30/2013 6:14:00 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Hojczyk

Bonehead Cantor and that evil McCarthy
Have lined up there Amnesty traitors to sell it to the bubbas

Gowdy
Issa
Goodlatte
Ryan
Carter

They all need to be defeated and removed from congress


13 posted on 07/30/2013 6:15:49 PM PDT by ncalburt ( Amnesty media out in full force)
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To: Zhang Fei

I shouldn’t say what it is that I really can’t wait for, so I won’t.


14 posted on 07/30/2013 6:16:18 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Usagi_yo

—— I’m voting straight tea party from here on out. -—

No more compromise candidates. Might as well vote for Dems.


15 posted on 07/30/2013 6:24:25 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: ncalburt
Name and shame....

Bonehead Cantor and that evil McCarthy
Have lined up there Amnesty traitors to sell it to the bubbas

Gowdy

Issa

Goodlatte

Ryan

Carter

They all need to be defeated and removed from congress

Sending this as a *reply* to all the RNC cr@p fundraising mailers I receive.

16 posted on 07/30/2013 6:28:29 PM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs stay silent.)
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To: Hojczyk

Boner may have a primary challenge that he can be thinking about while he lies to the country.


17 posted on 07/30/2013 6:29:03 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
No more compromise candidates. Might as well vote for Dems.

Is there a difference, anymore, between Dims and RINO's?

RNC/DNC both love Amnesty, Spending and don't give a hoot about Benghazi/IRS/NSA REAL scandals.

18 posted on 07/30/2013 6:30:41 PM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs stay silent.)
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To: Hojczyk
Slow road to Amnesty is bad

but it would have been worse if the House passed some immigration related bill to merge with the Senate Amnesty bill as the Senate passed their Horrible amnesty bill without reading it

that they didn't do anything yet is great news. We have a chance to contact them and tell them “no bill from the House”

19 posted on 07/30/2013 6:35:17 PM PDT by Democrat_media (IRS rigged election for Obama and democrats by shutting down tea party)
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To: Georgia Girl 2; concentric circles

It’s time for a targeted boycott now. If they don’t want to read their email, answer a phone or a fax, then stop buying anything related to mexical illegal slave labor. They shall receive the voting-with-feet they’re ignoring financially if they don’t want to listen to the voices of the electorate.

They plan to shove it down our throats, let’s slim their wallet for them while they try.

Buy imported (not from mexico or US) produce, chicken, and only non-illegal labor.


20 posted on 07/30/2013 6:47:41 PM PDT by txhurl ('The DOG ate my homework. That homework, too. ALL my homework. OK?' - POSHITUS)
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To: Hojczyk

SMOKE THE PHONE LINES OF THOSE MOTHERBLEEPERS.ALL 435 OF THEM!


21 posted on 07/30/2013 6:50:38 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (If Obama Had A City It Would Look Like Detroit.)
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To: ptsal

His walk is slow and crooked because drunks can’t walk a straight line.


22 posted on 07/30/2013 6:53:05 PM PDT by lu shissler (ecause)
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To: Hojczyk

Has time been set aside in that jam-packed fall schedule for impeachment procedures?

Oh. Yeah. I forgot. We’re talking about Republicans here.


23 posted on 07/30/2013 6:54:44 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Army dad. And damned proud.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

I’ve already done this with Heller and Heck (Nevada) because of their votes on immigration and NPS. I’ll stay home first.


24 posted on 07/30/2013 6:55:32 PM PDT by lu shissler (ecause)
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To: combat_boots
The illegals will be 1st in line for 0bamacare.

The illegals will be 2nd in line.

The 1st in line will be municipal employees dumped into Obamacare as their cities go bankrupt (starting with Detroit).



25 posted on 07/30/2013 7:13:53 PM PDT by peyton randolph (Tagline copyright in violation of Directive 10-289)
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To: Hojczyk

Why doesn’t he just retire if he doesn’t want the job of leading. I don’t know what has happened to him. During the lead up to 2010 he was taking the fight to the White House but after winning in 2010 primarily because of the Tea Party he and others started muting their strategy to one of strategery. Its just crazy to focus on accommodating a group of people who couldn’t vote for the GOP even if they wanted to and most of them don’t want to and aren’t likely to anytime in the foreseeable future.

If defunding Obamacare is silly because we lost in 2012 then passing an immigration Bill on Democrat terms is just idiotic. There are far better ways to pander to Hispanics than to pass this bill which will likely hurt the workforce and the GOP.


26 posted on 07/30/2013 7:14:20 PM PDT by Maelstorm (If all are treated as suspects it will not be long before we all are treated as prisoners.)
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To: Usagi_yo

Beware-Marco Rubio was one of the first TP candidates and now he is leading the charge on the immigration bill-we were duped! Charlie Crist may not have bee. A bad alternative after all!


27 posted on 07/30/2013 7:29:14 PM PDT by not2worry
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To: Hojczyk

Documentation File on Speaker of the House, John “Cave-In” Boehner, the Welfare Democrat’s perfect example of a Republican In Name Only (RINO).


28 posted on 07/30/2013 7:35:24 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Commune-Style Obama'care' violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Hojczyk

Boy President Romney would NEVER allowed that to happen.....We should vote for more like him

/heavy sarcasm

We got exactly what we keep voting for. Liberal republicans. So stop doing that folks.


29 posted on 07/30/2013 7:41:04 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: not2worry

Non Floridian asks: Crist was/is a Democrat, correct?


30 posted on 07/30/2013 7:54:43 PM PDT by Postman (Flies get too litle credit. Boehner gets too much.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Same source, another one which Jim should ban:

The Unprecedented — and Contemptible — Attempts to Sabotage Obamacare
Doing everything possible to block the law’s implementation is not treasonous — just sharply beneath any reasonable standards of elected officials.
By Norm Ornstein
http://www.nationaljournal.com/columns/washington-inside-out/the-unprecedented-and-contemptible-attempts-to-sabotage-obamacare-20130724

http://www.nationaljournal.com/events


31 posted on 07/30/2013 7:54:55 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: Maelstorm
During the lead up to 2010 he (Boehner) was taking the fight to the White House but after winning in 2010 primarily because of the Tea Party he and others started muting their strategy to one of strategery.

That's about the time that the NSA finished gathering all the blackmail info on him and all the other RINOs.

32 posted on 07/30/2013 8:15:04 PM PDT by upchuck (To the faceless, jack-booted government bureaucrat who just scanned this post: SCREW YOU!)
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To: Maelstorm

Its just crazy to focus on accommodating a group of people who couldn’t vote for the GOP even if they wanted to and most of them don’t want to and aren’t likely to anytime in the foreseeable future.


The beltway GOP are focusing on what the big donors want. Slave labor and open borders. All the Hispanic outreach talk is just repackaged BS. 99% of the beltway GOP have always wanted amnesty.


33 posted on 07/30/2013 8:30:08 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: samadams2000
I would like to see Limbaugh and Levin publicly call for his political head. No more. We have to create a turning point or our RINO leaders will destroy the country.

Me too. I would like nothing else than to tune into Rush's show and hear him loudly state that "Boehner has to go and go NOW" for backing amnesty for illegals and publicly demand that either Boehner resigns immediately or the House GOP Caucus fire Boehner immediately and replace him with someone who has more backbone and who will not allow ANY amnesty bills to come up for a vote. Rush could really get angry and back up his call for Boehner to leave by calling for any GOP House Caucus member who continues to back the Weeper to be primaried this next primary season.

Levin has already been calling for new House leadership for some time now, for this and other issues, but his voice is relatively puny compared with Rush Limbaugh's voice. If Rush tomorrow called for Boehner to immediately resign or be fired as Speaker, that would make headlines across the country and send shock waves throughout the political establishment.

34 posted on 07/30/2013 9:18:09 PM PDT by dsm69 (Boycott News Media/Hollywood Advertisers)
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To: Jane Long

Wake up ! A third party makes no sense and guarantees defeat...

UNLESS

....there’s nothing left to lose. We reach that point when Republicans
Ignore us in favor of big business and cheap labor without sealing the border with a big ass fence.


35 posted on 07/30/2013 10:07:57 PM PDT by chiller (NBCNews et al is in the tank and should be embarrassed)
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To: dsm69

We don’t yet know how strong boehner’s border fence might be. Low key , and under the radar or not, they will hear from us in August

I’ll keep a hopeful attitude.

SEAL THE DAMN BORDER FOR GOOD ! and then we’ll talk.


36 posted on 07/30/2013 10:15:03 PM PDT by chiller (NBCNews et al is in the tank and should be embarrassed)
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To: Usagi_yo
I’m voting straight tea party from here on out.

I'm done with the GOP as well. If they want to rubberstamp what the Democrats and their fat cat business donors want, they can do it without my vote.
37 posted on 07/30/2013 11:27:04 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: Hojczyk
The headline kind of deceives about the actual content, and the end of the article says a lot:

Further hampering the effort, said a senior House leadership aide, is Republicans’ basic lack of trust in the president.

“Our members fundamentally don’t believe that this administration will enforce the parts of the bill that they don’t like,” the aide said

Which is why no law that is even mildly controversial should be passed with the Clown occupying the Oval Office. There is no honor or honesty within the regime.

38 posted on 07/31/2013 12:41:37 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: All
It was recently reported that Repub Cong Paul Ryan laid out his vision for “lasting immigration reform". At a Ryan meet-up, he embraced illegal Gustavo Vargas who told Ryan he came here from Mexico to work, He and his family “love the United States, and we want to stay here,” Vargas told Ryan.

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Of course Vargas "loves" the US---he and his family are educated, housed, clothed, fed, transported, medicated, drugged-up, armed and ready for Reconquista -- w/ our tax dollars.

Betcha Vargas---a lawn mower---drove to and from the Ryan meeting in his spanking new $45,000 silver SUV.....without a driver's license.

=================================================

How stupid can Ryan be? His imbecilic faith in latino human nature will be at our expense. Lawmakers will not do the necessary spadework to out these connivers riding the US gravy train using multiple identities like there's no tomorrow---his kids (even the dead one) get in-state tuition--free school lunches--welfare--- food stamps-free healthcare---SSI/ADD checks.

Does Ryan know how much US money Vargas is laundering, draining from the US economy---wiring back to secret Mexican bank accounts for his retirement when all his identities will be receiving SS checks?

HOW MANY TIMES DID THISILLEGAL SWINDLE THE US GOVT? DID HE OBTAIN FRAUDULENT MORTGAGES? MORTGAGES THAT DEVSTATED THE US ECONOMY? THAT US TAXPAYERS WERE FORCED TO BAILOUT?

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FREEPER ACTION ALERT---LINK TO WISCONSIN MEDIA (paste this in your browser)
http://www.mondotimes.com/1/world/us/49

RYAN IS ACTUALLY BUILDING HIS CASE FOR REFORM ON THIS ILLEGAL. Wisconsin media should be asked to clarify just who Gustavo Vargas is --- since Cong Ryan is building a case for making US laws based on this person.

=============================================

US citizens need to know the answers to these questions.

Who is Gustavo Vargas? How many identities does he have?

Does he have a rap sheet here? In Mexico?

Does he receive welfare, food stamps, SSI, free medical care, Section 8 housing, UI, Workmen's comp?

Did he ever apply for, and receive, monthly SS checks for claiming "asylum?"

Does he have a sub-prime mortgage obtained w/ the help of Cong Baca's The Hispanic Caucus on Capitol Hill (more on this below)?

How many children does Vargas claim on IRS forms in order to get EITC refunds?

Does Vargas have a legal driver's license?

Does he have a valid passport?

Ho many times did he wire-transfer money back to Mexico?

How often does he travel to Mexico?

Is he Registered to vote? Under how many identities?

Does he belong to a radical America-hating organization like La Raza?

39 posted on 07/31/2013 3:17:53 AM PDT by Liz
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MASSIVE MORTGAGE FRAUD ON CAPITOL HILL FACILITATED W/ OUR TAX DOLLARS :

The Congressional Hispanic Institute, Inc, is an entity organized by Cong Joe Baca (D-Cali) in his capacity as head of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus.

Cong Baca created "HOGAR" (Spanish for home) in 2003 to work with the mortgage industry, F/M, lenders, banks and latino community groups to increase mortgage lending to what savvy observers consider to be unqualified Latinos.

"HOGAR" colluded w/ Cong Baca in what was to become a massive bilking of taxpayers. Cong Baca calculatedly hyped the fact that the national Latino homeownership rate was 47%, compared with 68% for the overall population.

HOGAR was coached to call the figure "alarming," and to say "a concerted effort was required to ensure that by the end of the decade Latinos will share equally in the American Dream of home ownership."

HOGAR and Cong Baca conned the public, failing to note that most of the "dreamers" were illegals, citizens of Third World countries who had violated US borders.

Predictably, HOGAR colluded w/ co-conspirators which included:

(a) shaky mortgage companies that ran into big trouble;

(b) Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, both now under federal control after billions in taxpayer bailouts;

(c) Countrywide Financial Corp., sold to Bank of America Corp;

(d) Washington Mutual Inc., taken over by the US government and sold to J.P. Morgan Chase & Co.; and,

(e) New Century Financial Corp. and Ameriquest Mortgage Corp, both now defunct, killed by defaulted subprime Latino mortgages.

HOGAR's ties to the subprime mortgage industry were substantial. Bribery and self-dealing were rampant:

<><> Companies that donated $150,000 to Cong Baca got the right to have their own research fellow who would conduct fraudulent studies, which were cunningly used by industry lobbyists to pump lending.

<><> Bribery and extortion in the form of $100,000 annual donations to Cong Baca, for which HOGAR provided phony news releases from Cong Baca's Hispanic Caucus promoting a lender's commercial products to the Latino market,

<><> The most shocking example of bribery well-substantitated by Hogar's literature..... HOGAR announced it worked with Freddie Mac on a self-serving two-year examination of Latino homeownership in 63 congressional districts.

The "study" found Hispanic ownership on the rise thanks to "new flexible mortgage loan products" that the industry was adopting at the urging of Cong Baca's collusive coterie.

<><> HOGAR conned lenders into even more lenient down-payment and underwriting standards.

<><> As the subprime debacle unfolded, HOGAR declined repeated requests for comment despite the economic havoc their activities precipitated.

The mortgage schemes demonstrated the criminal activities of border violators with multiple identities---perhaps violent, terrorist-connected foreigners---colluding and conspiring to defraud private companies and public entities. And mortgage racketeering enterprises which employed sub rosa finance and business practices to carry out deceptions and frauds.

The alleged ring of swindlers---a Congresman, individuals with multiple identities, banks, insurance companies, mortgage brokers--might be charged with cheating the US govt, taxpayers and bank share holders out of hundreds of millions of dollars via an elaborate web of mortgage and bank frauds.

The mortgage Dreamers used multiple phony identities, fraudulent Social Security numbers, purchased from identity forgers in order to obtain govt-subsidized benefits.

L/E will find that individuals with multiple identities obtained fraudulent mortgages then flipped the houses at ever-higher prices to family member who then absconded to foreign countries, sticking banks (and taxpayers) with hundreds of millions in fraudulent mortgages.

BACKGROUND A Wall Street Journal investigative report related that, according to the Federal Financial Institutions Examination Council examination of the borrowing spree, uncovered financial schemes by low-income housing groups, Hispanic lawmakers, a congressional Hispanic housing initiative, mortgage lenders and brokers, all colluding in fraduent schemes to increase homeownership among Latinos with forged documents which enabled massive fraud.

This was not simply the mortgage market at work. It was fueled by avarice, greed, and Congressional enabling fraudulent practices. In 2005 alone, mortgages to Hispanics jumped by 29%; Latinos with multiple fraudulent identities in low-paying jobs obtained subprime mortgages for prime properties---soaring to 169%.

(Research provided by Wall Street Journal. Some material excerpted from the NY Times).

40 posted on 07/31/2013 3:19:19 AM PDT by Liz
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To: Hojczyk

Boehner does not fear the American People.
Nor does he obey his Oath to the Constitution.

Boehner has a boner for Communism, power, and Obama.
The GOP knew this, but —like Romney and Rove and McCain —
agree. They want power for themselves, power for Obama,
and a separation of themselves from the unprotected
[because of the THEM] ‘little people’
for whom they are supposed to actually be working.


41 posted on 07/31/2013 4:17:17 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: Hojczyk

The GOPe plotting a strategy to screw over their own constituents.

They fight harder against their own base than they do the Democrats.

The GOP is dead. Its gone corporate.


42 posted on 07/31/2013 4:42:04 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: Postman
Crist changed his party affiliation in 2012 to Democrat.....ran for the Senate and lost to Rubio.

When Crist was governor of Florida he was Republican.

43 posted on 07/31/2013 4:43:21 AM PDT by Guenevere (....)
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To: Hojczyk
DEMOCRATS are LAWLESS...

REPUBLICANS are BALLLESS!!!

My new BUMPER STICKER.

44 posted on 07/31/2013 5:06:18 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: ptsal

Illegals are owned by communist lawyers and Mexican Suedeten land strategy. What is the GOPe thinking they can get votes from that? Treason, whores, beheading fun material for EBT foreign government sponsorship.

This is no relationship, it’s abuse.


45 posted on 07/31/2013 5:09:31 AM PDT by lavaroise
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To: Ann Archy

America, the new Vietnam surrender to communist madness has come home. Yeah, cool nationalists they are... and our constitution is? Well, not for intellectual cowards who wallow in shallow murderous companies thinking it makes them look cool gangsta.


46 posted on 07/31/2013 5:13:09 AM PDT by lavaroise
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To: Usagi_yo
I’m voting straight tea party from here on out.

Understandable... and I'm doing the same thing wherever possible, but that doesn't always pan out either. *COUGH* Rubio *COUGH*

47 posted on 07/31/2013 5:19:14 AM PDT by ScottinVA (If you don't care about Antonio Santiago, sure as hell don't whine about Trayvon Martin.)
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To: lodi90

And they wonder why the working class distrusts the GOP. This could be an opportunity to bring in more blue collar workers into the GOP and erode even further the dominance of Democrats over unions instead they are doing something that when it goes south the Democrats will blame the GOP. Big Donors are killing the GOP. We don’t need them. When candidates are loved by the grassroots they have no problem attracting small donors which is exactly what many in leadership don’t like.


48 posted on 07/31/2013 7:03:03 AM PDT by Maelstorm (If all are treated as suspects it will not be long before we all are treated as prisoners.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Please. Speak with more respect for our leadershit.


49 posted on 07/31/2013 7:24:55 AM PDT by Sal (The scandals are real. The "president" is a phony.)
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To: headstamp 2

New idiot MBA Corporate... the GOpe is only good at disorganizing the right behind the veil of some gangsta organization feel in DC called bipatisanship, a single dismembered wailing prozak-viagra child.

In these gay marriages, the gayer party always drives the other to greater gayness, and via nudges and msm BS prevents forms of Apostasies.

It’s a Madrassa thing.


50 posted on 07/31/2013 8:38:50 AM PDT by lavaroise
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