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Will the press ever turn on Obama…
Legal Insurrection ^ | July 30, 2013 | neo-neocon

Posted on 07/30/2013 1:15:20 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

…the way much of it has now turned on Weiner? That’s the question asked by a commenter at this post about The New Yorker’s new cover mocking Weiner.

My answer, in a nutshell, is no.

After all, there is no real cost to turning on Weiner. The election is not a national event. No one seemed to like Weiner all that much to begin with; perhaps the only people getting thrills up the leg about him might have been a few of his sext partners. Weiner’s misbehavior was sexual and simple to conceptualize, and most especially it was not political in nature (except for the over-arching issue of lying). Those who supported Weiner earlier and excused his personal failings—once—could rest easy in knowing that had shown them to be personally magnanimous. They had given him another chance, he blew it, and now by turning on him they’re showing they have morals and standards. Win/win.

And besides, his offenses had nothing to do with politics or policy. Abandoning Weiner now threatens no particular political or theoretical belief system of his previous supporters, and helps them look righteous and even-handed. And it doesn’t hurt that his activities lend themselves quite easily to mockery; the double-entendres just keep coming (oops!).

Nor is there any racial angle with Weiner; he’s Jewish, and therefore not of a protected group.

Obama is very different. For him, the press has compromised every ideal it professes to have. His sins are not personal, they are political abuses of power, and the abuses of power are for the most part in furtherance of the agenda of the left. For supporters and press to turn on him now would mean a re-organization of their much more basic belief system and perhaps even their politics. Even worse than that, it could mean saying the right was right about Obama all the time. That would be most threatening of all.

No, the only way the liberal press would ever really turn on Obama would be for not being leftist enough—for joining the conservative enemy, as it were. And although there were moments of that with Obama’s policies on Guantanamo, drones, and NSA spying (all of which involved him appearing, in the eyes of liberals and the left, to be too much like Bush in fighting Islamic terrorism—even though Obama refused to call it that), the Obama-dike of the MSM held.

It’s hard to imagine anything else that could ever threaten it.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Illinois; US: New York
KEYWORDS: anthonyweiner; carlosdanger; media; msm; newyork; newyorkcity; obama; partisanmediashill; partisanmediashills; weiner

1 posted on 07/30/2013 1:15:20 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Is that a rhetorical question.

Because if they haven’t yet, I don’t know when they would.


2 posted on 07/30/2013 1:16:49 PM PDT by SMARTY ("The test of every religious, political, or educational system is the man that it forms." H. Amiel)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All


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3 posted on 07/30/2013 1:17:30 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No.


4 posted on 07/30/2013 1:18:45 PM PDT by longfellowsmuse (last of the living nomads)
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To: SMARTY

If they turn on OBAMA things will have to get real bad...Next up Hillary


5 posted on 07/30/2013 1:18:46 PM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Is the earth flat?


6 posted on 07/30/2013 1:18:56 PM PDT by South40
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
As Rush pointed out today, the difference between Clinton and Wiener is that Clinton never admitted anything.

Once you admit it, the press has no further use of you. They admire liars. They gushed over how GOOD Clinton was at it.

I don't see Ubama ever admitting anything, either.

7 posted on 07/30/2013 1:18:57 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

That’s like asking will Obama ever turn on Obama?


8 posted on 07/30/2013 1:19:05 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

With 80-90% of the MSM left wingers?

NO.


9 posted on 07/30/2013 1:19:44 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (K I L L T H E B I L L !!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Weiner; he’s Jewish, and therefore not of a protected group.


10 posted on 07/30/2013 1:22:06 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Will the press ever turn on Obama?

People don't often turn on their progeny. For starters, it makes them look bad.

11 posted on 07/30/2013 1:22:17 PM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The MSM understands perfectly who controls the checkbook. The self-acclaimed elite wannabee MSM cannot afford to do their job with honesty, integrity, or ethics .... they sold out a long time ago ... and they are treated just like the slaves that they have become.


12 posted on 07/30/2013 1:22:51 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (The only growth industries left under Progressives are government and poverty.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Will the press ever turn on Obama…”

???

Sure, Obama turns the press on, doesn’t he?


13 posted on 07/30/2013 1:23:14 PM PDT by Iron Munro (They Old. That's Old School People. We In A New School, Our Generation)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
For supporters and press to turn on him now would mean a re-organization of their much more basic belief system and perhaps even their politics.

It's nearly impossible for Marxists, secular humanists, and postmodernists to give up their world views because they are based on the results of the choice to not think, which means they are based on emotionalism and concrete bound mentality, which means that they do not have to be compatible with reality and can avoid thinking in principles of cause and effect.

14 posted on 07/30/2013 1:25:38 PM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

15 posted on 07/30/2013 1:25:50 PM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

To paraphrase and old saying: “Is the Pope Muslim?”


16 posted on 07/30/2013 1:26:04 PM PDT by ProudFossil (" I never did give anyone hell. I just told the truth and they thought it was hell." Harry Truman)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

For them to turn on Obama would be like taking a whole lotta cyanide capsules. They are the bigger part of the monster and can’t turn on him without some serious self-flagellation. I don’t see it happening because of how invested they have become.


17 posted on 07/30/2013 1:30:37 PM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Two points:

1. Weiner's initial lies in Congress WERE political. Weiner at first arrogantly accused the press of making up the story and tried to bully them into backing off. Then he claimed that his phone had been hacked, and only backed off of that when others demanded that the FBI investigate the hacking of a sitting Congressman's phone. Anyone who supported Weiner during this also supported his blaming of others, including bullying the press.

2. We need to redefine "the press" to include British and other foreign news outlets, too. Let's get the UK Telegraph, and even the Guardian to write what American outlets refuse to write. I recall press conferences from the past when a question or two was always reserved for a foreign journalist. Let's try to get the British press to write the pieces that Americans refuse to write.

-PJ

18 posted on 07/30/2013 1:32:10 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

How do you turn on your paymaster?

You’ve seen what this Marxist does to his “enemies”.....


19 posted on 07/30/2013 1:36:43 PM PDT by rightwingextremist1776
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

” the Obama-dike”

Okay, I’ll bite. Who is it?


20 posted on 07/30/2013 1:36:57 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I remember a few months ago reading an article about the large number of White House and campaign staffers who were married to people working for the alphabet networks; big name reporters and on air talent. I thought I had it bookmarked but now I can’t find it, even on the web. It explained how Obama had such an iron grip on the press. These people were not going to jeopardize their spouses jobs.


21 posted on 07/30/2013 1:38:52 PM PDT by Wiser now (Socialism does not eliminate poverty, it guarantees it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well since the MSM created the myth of Obama it would be like them shooting themselves in the foot and exposing themselves as co-conspirators to the fraud.


22 posted on 07/30/2013 1:42:59 PM PDT by Bullish (Psalm 46)
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To: SMARTY

They would turn on him only if he violated a sacred covenant of the Left (e.g., smoking in public; denying “global warming”). Anything else is of far, far lesser importance (e.g., honesty; leadership; rational thought ...)


23 posted on 07/30/2013 1:43:12 PM PDT by glennaro
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

24 posted on 07/30/2013 1:47:41 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The press WILL turn on Obama as soon as Hitlery announces her intention to run.


25 posted on 07/30/2013 1:47:56 PM PDT by Teflonic
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They seem to be back to wiping his a... as they were last year.

The Media : ‘Please give it to me again Barrack, it hurts so good’


26 posted on 07/30/2013 1:48:14 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
They might, right before the election when they throw all their support behind Hillary.
But they won't be too harsh, only lament what he couldn't get done, thanks to Republicans obstruction, and how we must elect Hillary to finish the job and carry forth his vision blablablah.
The scandals and illegalities will be forgotten by then.

27 posted on 07/30/2013 1:50:17 PM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

if they didn’t turn after learning of Eric Holder’s fishing expedition against the AP....they likely never will.


28 posted on 07/30/2013 1:52:05 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It took 40 years for Pete Seeger to turn on Joseph Stalin. Figure about that kind of a timeline for the turn of events.


29 posted on 07/30/2013 1:52:59 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: BitWielder1

The MSM threw the Clintons under the bus in the Spring of 2008. That’s when tongues started to wag and resentment against those corrupt carpetbaggers came out.

Of course, Hillary was a threat to the candidacy of the Golden Child at the time. Now she’s the last great white hope of the Democrat Party.


30 posted on 07/30/2013 1:54:29 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: sickoflibs

They got sober for around 30-60 days, and are now back on the bottle.


31 posted on 07/30/2013 1:56:08 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (K I L L T H E B I L L !!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think it’s the old “No enemies to the left”. Either Hussein would have to tack visibly to the right (ain’t happening) or something would come along that’s markedly to the left of him (ain’t happening either). Failing either of these two things happening, no.


32 posted on 07/30/2013 2:02:05 PM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It turned on Weiner because the alternatives are more to the left than him. He would have been bad, but the other candidates are worse.


33 posted on 07/30/2013 2:11:09 PM PDT by I want the USA back (We live in a fascist dictatorship, thanks to half the public having its head up its a$$.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No.


34 posted on 07/30/2013 2:14:04 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Not if members of the press want to live.
35 posted on 07/30/2013 2:24:22 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Nor is there any racial angle with Weiner; he’s Jewish, and therefore not of a protected group.

Another slur by another racist pig in the media.

36 posted on 07/30/2013 2:27:43 PM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Not until AFTER 2014 election. Then Obama Fatigue will be in vogue, because they’ll be busy reporting on Hillary and whoever else is running. AND it’ll give this denizen the opportunity to shove more sh** at us because they won’t be paying ANY type of attention.


37 posted on 07/30/2013 2:59:24 PM PDT by theDentist (FUBO; qwerty ergo typo : i type, therefore i misspelll)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No.

LLS


38 posted on 07/30/2013 3:11:31 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: Diogenesis

That’s a classic...........


39 posted on 07/30/2013 3:25:17 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

That is right, they will NEVER turn on him.

They may have ruined America with their slavish devotion to this bad, incompetent, corrupt man.

But they don’t care.


40 posted on 07/30/2013 3:54:53 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: glennaro

I’m convinced there is NOTHING he could do that would make them turn on him. NOTHING. He could strangle his own daughters on the white house lawn and they’d say, so what?

Look at what he’s done and they’ve got NOTHING to say about any of it.

Nope, live boys, dead girls, roasted puppies, we are stuck with him for the next 3 years; we very well may never recover.

And I love, love, love how they are lining up to crown Hillary! as the next president.

Think how great it will be to have Bill Clinton back in the WH, with nothing but time on his hands.

Sheesh, we better find somebody good to run this time. And no, it’s not that fat cow Christie.


41 posted on 07/30/2013 3:59:48 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Back in the 80's it was a joke.


42 posted on 07/30/2013 4:39:11 PM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (To the left the truth looks like Right-Wing extremism.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks 2ndDivisionVet.
My answer, in a nutshell, is no. After all, there is no real cost to turning on Weiner. The election is not a national event. No one seemed to like Weiner all that much to begin with; perhaps the only people getting thrills up the leg about him might have been a few of his sext partners. Weiner’s misbehavior was sexual and simple to conceptualize, and most especially it was not political in nature (except for the over-arching issue of lying)... Nor is there any racial angle with Weiner; he’s Jewish, and therefore not of a protected group. Obama is very different. For him, the press has compromised every ideal it professes to have. His sins are not personal, they are political abuses of power, and the abuses of power are for the most part in furtherance of the agenda of the left. For supporters and press to turn on him now would mean a re-organization of their much more basic belief system and perhaps even their politics. Even worse than that, it could mean saying the right was right about Obama all the time.

43 posted on 07/30/2013 5:05:48 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: SMARTY

But seriously...maybe, JUST MAYBE some will turn on him when their friends are thrown into re-education camps for writing a slightly critical article about il Duche.

When that happens, they'll either TURN on him or they'll become even more devoted bootlickers.

44 posted on 07/30/2013 5:39:45 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper
At that point, your clothes will be smoldering and the floor under your feet will be on fire.

Either “O” goons will have come after you at home or U.S. enemies will have delivered the coup de gras ... and it won't matter any more.

45 posted on 07/31/2013 4:02:18 AM PDT by SMARTY ("The test of every religious, political, or educational system is the man that it forms." H. Amiel)
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