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Top GOP donors tell party to legalize illegal immigrants
The Washington Times ^ | 7-30-2013

Posted on 07/30/2013 11:11:46 AM PDT by markomalley

Nearly a hundred top Republican officials sent a letter to the House GOP on Tuesday urging lawmakers to pass a bill that legalizes illegal immigrants, arguing that the current system is already allowing them to stay and so it makes sense to register them and bring them into the system.

The donors, led by former Bush administration Cabinet officials Carlos Gutierrez and Spencer Abraham, also said that immigrants are potential Republican voters who can be won over — if the party can be seen as welcoming to immigrants.

“Doing nothing is de facto amnesty. We need to take control of whom we let in our country and we need to make sure everybody plays by the same rules,” the donors said in their letter.

They aimed their pitch at House Republicans, who are trying to figure out a way forward and find themselves trapped between angry rank-and-file voters who say legalizing illegal immigrants amounts to amnesty, and party elites and donors who say the GOP cannot survive nationally without embracing legalization as part of a strategy to win over Hispanic voters.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 113th; aliens; amnesty; carlosgutierrez; gutierrez; illegals; lobbyists; potentialdemocrats; potentialrepublicans; shamnesty; spencerabraham; stupidparty; undocumenteddems; unregistereddems; wronganswer; wrongissue
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They are faced with a choice between conservatives and illegals. They're making their choice...time for a conservative party, as the GOP ain't it.
1 posted on 07/30/2013 11:11:46 AM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

Money talks.

Your voters walk (and form a third party)


2 posted on 07/30/2013 11:13:35 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: markomalley

” The donors, led by former Bush administration Cabinet officials Carlos Gutierrez and Spencer Abraham,”

Bush.......the gift that keeps on giving.


3 posted on 07/30/2013 11:18:58 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (K I L L T H E B I L L !!)
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To: markomalley

The big donors don’t control a lot of votes. Will those big donors donate enough money to gather not only a majority of illegals’ votes but the votes lost due to the lowering of economic opportunities and violation of rule-of-law that would drive away any sane conservative? The answer is a resounding NO!

Do these big donors realize that making illegals legal will raise the cost of those illegal workers?

Perhaps those big donors are mostly Democrats and this article overlooks that?


4 posted on 07/30/2013 11:19:21 AM PDT by iacovatx (Conservatism is the political center--it is not "right" of center)
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To: markomalley

These are the corporatists who also want government health care.


5 posted on 07/30/2013 11:19:35 AM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: markomalley

“The donors, led by former Bush administration Cabinet officials Carlos Gutierrez and Spencer Abraham.”

Not surprised to hear that a Bush or Bushies is/are a part of this amensty push. They just can’t rest until the country is even more overrun with third world cheap labor and, as an added bonus, muslims.

“Doing nothing is de facto amnesty.” One of Liar Rubio’s punchlines when he was acting as spokesmouth for Zuckerberg et al. Yes, Rubio, we can follow the money from the fat cat Republican lobbyists to your pockets.


6 posted on 07/30/2013 11:19:52 AM PDT by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: markomalley; Buckeye McFrog

Coming Soon to An Election Near You: Sarah Palin’s Right Wing “Freedom Party”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-gop/3043442/posts


7 posted on 07/30/2013 11:20:26 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

We need to know which exact companies they represent and boycott the hell out of them.


8 posted on 07/30/2013 11:21:58 AM PDT by txhurl ('The DOG ate my homework. That homework, too. ALL my homework. OK?' - POSHITUS)
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To: markomalley

Yes, the old “we already have defacto amnesty so lets legalize them” argument. Even RAND PAUL has made that argument. Rubio swears (or at least swore) by it.

That may be so, but it was wanton neglect and greedy need for cheap, ignorant labor that put on those opaque ‘defacto’ sunglasses.

I don’t give a damn who you are; if you are one of these equivocators and I find out about it, I’ll drop you like a hot potato. I’ll boycott, speak out, condemn and not vote for any candidate you’ve bought with your blood money.

You ‘rich’ donors are traitors. You should be ashamed and slink on off to whatever haven you’ve built because your dead to me.


9 posted on 07/30/2013 11:22:47 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: markomalley

Sigh . . . it’s a shame there’s no opposition party in Washington, D.C.


10 posted on 07/30/2013 11:22:59 AM PDT by AtlasStalled
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To: txhurl

You nailed it.


11 posted on 07/30/2013 11:23:19 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (K I L L T H E B I L L !!)
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To: markomalley
It's been an uneasy alliance for a long time. The statists now own the GOP and sooner or later conservatives are going to have to break away

Immigration may just force the decision

12 posted on 07/30/2013 11:23:46 AM PDT by turducken
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To: iacovatx
"The big donors don’t control a lot of votes"

The votes that money controls are the ones that make the Laws, or decide not to Enforce the Constitution OR Laws they don't like. Big money controls the votes in Government, and the Candidates that We The People are "given" to vote for....without the $$$$ and State-Run-Media, you get what the GOP-E (via the Donors' choices) and the Progressives (via their Donors' choices) to further enrich and reward their Companies and Executives with the Legislation and Rules they decide to provide them.

13 posted on 07/30/2013 11:24:04 AM PDT by traditional1 (Amerika.....Providing public housing for the Mulatto Messiah)
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To: markomalley
Through everything that has happened since Reagan left Washington - the surrendering, the cowardice, all the accommodations made to the media & the left - I am still a registered Republican.

This is THE issue for me.

If the GOP takes this step then I am gone, gone, GONE. I suspect I am not alone.

I suspect not having any association will be a relief, since I will no longer feel I have stake in what the IDIOTS that run the party are doing.

14 posted on 07/30/2013 11:28:01 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: markomalley

Are these the same “big donors” who brought us two Bushes, Dole, McCain and Romney?


15 posted on 07/30/2013 11:28:35 AM PDT by henkster (The 0bama regime isn't a train wreck, it's a B 17 raid on the rail yard.)
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To: markomalley

Elevenscore and seventeen years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent a new nation, conceived in liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal. Now we are engaged in a great reverse auction, in which the political parties compete to see who can hand out citizenship in that nation most cheaply.


16 posted on 07/30/2013 11:31:48 AM PDT by omega4412
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To: markomalley
Hah...no wonder the RNC is hard up for cash..I get a call about every two weeks from some DC GOP organization asking for a contribution...

After I pick myself up off the floor from laughing my ass off...

I tell the young lady (always a lady) that when the GOPe stops targeting TEA Party candidates in primaries and start acting and voting like conservatives I won't send them a thin dime...

They tell me then Obama wins...I sadly inform them he is winning anyway because the GOPe is craven, gutless, spineless spork weasels

17 posted on 07/30/2013 11:33:36 AM PDT by Popman
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To: markomalley
Cabinet officials Carlos Gutierrez and Spencer Abraham, also said that immigrants are potential Republican voters who can be won over — if the party can be seen as welcoming to immigrants.

How naive can you get?
The attraction of the socialists (Dems)to voters is;
Vote for me I will get you someone else's money.
The Republican party doesn't offer that to voters like the socialists (Dems) do. I would expect over 90% of the legalized illegals to vote for the Dems (Socialists).

Also it shows a cynical disregard for our sovereignty - Tom

18 posted on 07/30/2013 11:33:52 AM PDT by Capt. Tom
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To: markomalley

If I were looking for new family members to adopt, I don’t think those who broke into my house would be at the top of the list.


19 posted on 07/30/2013 11:35:20 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: markomalley

I couldn’t care less about a party, the GOP or any other. I care about PRINCIPLES. I care about the CONSTITUTION. I care about Personal responsibility and authority. I care about States Rights.

The GOP top donors can go do their business in a gay steam bath in Denmark where they should be doing it.


20 posted on 07/30/2013 11:36:50 AM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Money talks. Your voters walk (and form a third party)

That was my question. What will the GOP do for votes? The illegals aren't going to vote for them, and I'll never vote GOP again.

21 posted on 07/30/2013 11:37:23 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: henkster

Plus Ford, Nixon, Eisenhower, Rockefeller and Dewey before them . . .


22 posted on 07/30/2013 11:37:32 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: SharpRightTurn

“Rampant deficit spending and criminal values don’t end at the Rio Grande.”

or something like that.


23 posted on 07/30/2013 11:38:39 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: markomalley
We are no longer a Capitalist Representative Republic; we are now a Corporatist neo-Fascist government.

The corporations took over our government, and individual people be damned. Substandard health care, ubiquitous monitoring and invasion of privacy, lower standard of living for most and only the best for a select few.

This is all the bad parts of Capitalism (yes, there are a few) only on steroids. See, when you go too far down the coporatist path, you end up nearly with communism. Politics and economic systems are not linear, they are circular.

24 posted on 07/30/2013 11:39:02 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: markomalley

What good did the BIG DONORS do for us in 2012? As far as I’m concerned, if they sit out 2016, that makes it harder for some GOPe type to spend all that money attacking conservatives in the primaries.


25 posted on 07/30/2013 11:39:25 AM PDT by Maceman (Just say "NO" to tyranny.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

I don’t care WHAT the big donors are represented by what lobbyists, there is NOTHING I can’t do without.

Lettuce, tomatoes, grapes, wine, chicken, citrus, I can live without ALL of it.


26 posted on 07/30/2013 11:40:58 AM PDT by txhurl ('The DOG ate my homework. That homework, too. ALL my homework. OK?' - POSHITUS)
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To: markomalley

I like Greg Gutfeld’s idea: give them Detroit.

If illegals can make that city work, they deserve to stay.


27 posted on 07/30/2013 11:44:50 AM PDT by freerepublicchat
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To: markomalley

The top donors are the RNC, I received a call for money from the RNC this morning and declined. I told them I consider myself a Republican but the party is abdoning me and the Conservatives. They said they needed money to pay for projects that would bring more Conservative voters to the party but couldn’t be more specific. I told him they just use the word conservative when talking to Conservatives when they are trying to raise money.


28 posted on 07/30/2013 11:44:55 AM PDT by duffee (NO poll tax, NO tax on firearms, ammunition or gun safes. NO gun free zones.)
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To: markomalley; 3D-JOY; abner; Abundy; AGreatPer; Albion Wilde; AliVeritas; alisasny; ...

Tokyo Rove, rich, liberal bastards and corporate scum lobby Republican congresscritters for amnesty.

PING!


29 posted on 07/30/2013 11:47:01 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (I don't always vote, but when I do, I SURE AS HELL DON'T VOTE DEMOCRAT!)
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The donors, led by former Bush administration Cabinet officials Carlos Gutierrez and Spencer Abraham . . .


30 posted on 07/30/2013 11:49:08 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (I don't always vote, but when I do, I SURE AS HELL DON'T VOTE DEMOCRAT!)
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To: txhurl

” don’t care WHAT the big donors are represented by what lobbyists, there is NOTHING I can’t do without.

Lettuce, tomatoes, grapes, wine, chicken, citrus, I can live without ALL of it.”

The difference in cost of one head of lettuce picked by an illegal at 8.00 an hour, and a union picker earning 15.00 an hour is 6 cents.

They LIE!


31 posted on 07/30/2013 11:52:51 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (K I L L T H E B I L L !!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Dubya and Jeb are going all out once again for amnesy....its all they do.


32 posted on 07/30/2013 11:54:20 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (K I L L T H E B I L L !!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
Legalizing illegal aliens would damage this country extensively. It would play into the hands of those who hate us and want to destroy us.
33 posted on 07/30/2013 11:56:43 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: markomalley

They’re afraid they’ll lose re-election if they vote against amnesty. But they’ll lose if they vote for amnesty because all the people they give amnesty to will vote for democrats. Guess which way they’ll vote.


34 posted on 07/30/2013 11:58:17 AM PDT by VerySadAmerican (If you vote for evil because you can't see evil, you ARE evil!)
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To: Dante3

” Legalizing illegal aliens would damage this country extensively.”

It would destroy it, under THIS proposed amnesty. With chain migration, we will have 100 million unskilled, illiterate slobs living here.


35 posted on 07/30/2013 11:59:26 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (K I L L T H E B I L L !!)
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To: markomalley
They can supply you rat bastards with perks and wealth but they can't supply you with a bed rock base... and we can supply you with 10’s of millions of votes... but if you allow these rich corporate tyrants to rule the day... we will send many of you home powerless and defeated.

LLS

36 posted on 07/30/2013 12:01:38 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

btt


37 posted on 07/30/2013 12:02:25 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I will be there and will fight as hard as I can... she and Levin just need to say NOW!

LLS


38 posted on 07/30/2013 12:02:46 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: Capt. Tom

85% according to Gallup.


39 posted on 07/30/2013 12:04:23 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: markomalley
Boycott List at bottom of letter:






40 posted on 07/30/2013 12:11:57 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: markomalley
Nearly a hundred top Republican officials sent a letter to the House GOP on Tuesday urging lawmakers to pass a bill that legalizes illegal immigrants, arguing that the current system is already allowing them to stay and so it makes sense to register them and bring them into the system.

Just say No to ILLEGALS....

The donors, led by former Bush administration Cabinet officials Carlos Gutierrez and Spencer Abraham, also said that immigrants are potential Republican voters who can be won over — if the party can be seen as welcoming to immigrants.

hey donors, STFU...and go to Mexico and see if you can be in Mexico ILLEGALLY!!

41 posted on 07/30/2013 12:24:00 PM PDT by ExCTCitizen (Ben Carson/Rand Paul or Sara/Nikki in 2016)
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Top GOP donors tell party to legalize illegal immigrants

Part of me says, "Please, yes, please do it. Hasten the demise of your party and the country. Make the collapse inevitable, so we can see how things shake out; so can see which ideology caries the day, and start to put the pieces back together."

This waiting is getting to me.

42 posted on 07/30/2013 12:27:31 PM PDT by Turbo Pig (...to close with and destroy the enemy...)
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To: ExCTCitizen
No way will these immigrants vote Republican. Just one example: McCain catered to the illegals, calling them “Children of God,” meeting with LaRaza, and the Hispanics and Asians still did not vote for him but chose Obama.
43 posted on 07/30/2013 12:28:48 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: markomalley
The donors, led by former Bush administration Cabinet officials Carlos Gutierrez and Spencer Abraham, also said that immigrants are potential Republican voters who can be won over — if the party can be seen as welcoming to immigrants.

Step away form the bong, boys! Frito Lay cannot make enough Doritos to handle the munchies from dope that good.

44 posted on 07/30/2013 12:32:34 PM PDT by Dahoser (Separation of church and state? No, we need separation of media and state.)
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To: Menehune56

“These are the corporatists who also want government health care.”

You are correct IMO, and they aren’t Conservatives either. Not by a long shot. This IS BIG money chasing self interest.


45 posted on 07/30/2013 12:32:56 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will. They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: markomalley

The Greatest Victory of the Tea Party so far:

Pushing an Amnesty Bill through the Senate.

Think about that while you’re job hunting you racist, fascist bastards. :D

/sarc(?????)


46 posted on 07/30/2013 12:35:11 PM PDT by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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To: markomalley
arguing that the current system is already allowing them to stay

“Doing nothing is de facto amnesty. We need to take control of whom we let in our country and we need to make sure everybody plays by the same rules,” the donors said in their letter.

The core problem is that the current law does not allow this. However, the current (and past) administration just chooses to ignore the law. Now how will passing a new, more generous amnesty change that? Also, if we legalize the current batch of illegals, the businesses these donors represent will soon become unhappy when the now legal immigrants start demanding wages and are able to make OSHA and labor law complaints. Then they will fire all their legal employees and hire the new illegals streaming across the still unguarded border.

47 posted on 07/30/2013 12:39:11 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (This message has been recorded but not approved by Obama's StasiNet. Read it at your peril.)
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To: markomalley

Already not registered GOP I wont vote for one unless I am sure they are conservative..I voted for Rubio and Governor Scott...won’t vote for either again.
I also believe that the lesser of two evils is stil evil.
These are the moneyed elite..they make money no matter who is in office
Freegards
and GOP dont call me..I will call you........NOT!
LEX


48 posted on 07/30/2013 12:39:38 PM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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...Carlos Gutierrez and Spencer Abraham, also said that immigrants are potential Republican voters who can be won over...

LOL! That's funny. Good luck with that, Skippy!

49 posted on 07/30/2013 12:42:00 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Let's make it our turn in 2014. Vote early and VOTE OFTEN.)
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To: jimbo123

Mainly Hispanic, agricultural and construction interests. All of the people you’d expect to be for amnesty.


50 posted on 07/30/2013 12:43:32 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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