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Obamacare Fallout: More Doctors Opting Out of Medicare
Newsmax ^ | Monday, 29 Jul 2013 10:06 AM | Sandy Fitzgerald

Posted on 07/29/2013 11:13:38 AM PDT by Olog-hai

Three times more doctors are refusing Medicare patients than three years ago, many citing Medicare's increasing rules and lowered payment rates.

According to the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, which administers the program, even doctors who still see some Medicare patients are limiting the number of Medicare patients they will treat, reports The Wall Street Journal. …

The numbers of doctors refusing both Medicare and Medicaid payments won’t completely undermine Obamacare, health experts say, but some patients may have problems finding doctors who will accept their new coverage under the healthcare reform law. …

(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: 0carenightmare; abortion; deathpanels; medicare; medicine; obamacare; obamacaredoctors; optout; physicians; zerocare

1 posted on 07/29/2013 11:13:38 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Comrade Obama’s not going to like this. He’ll be writing executive orders soon to FORCE all doctors to work under HIS plan and LIKE it. Ain’t communism grand.


2 posted on 07/29/2013 11:16:47 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Olog-hai

Looks like the another liberal Utopian design has overlooked the use of free will by parties adversely affected..


3 posted on 07/29/2013 11:17:08 AM PDT by IamConservative (The soul of my lifes journey is Liberty!)
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To: Olog-hai
I would think that the best doctors that can afford to do so will opt out of Obamacare. That means the best doctors will be serving the elite only, without the federal government controlling their care.

I've said all along that there will be a two-tiered system. There will be those who can afford to opt out of Obama care and have their own medical structures. Then there will be those who have federal health insurance, where everthing will be controlled. Those who don't opt out will find that they're treated as categories, not individuals.

4 posted on 07/29/2013 11:19:42 AM PDT by grania
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To: Olog-hai

B-b-b-but he said I could keep my doctor!.............


5 posted on 07/29/2013 11:21:01 AM PDT by Red Badger (Want to be surprised? Google your own name......Want to have fun? Google your friend's names........)
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To: Olog-hai

All of this is by design and part of a long-term plan toward a total government takeover of healthcare. The Obamanites can flog the fact that doctors are refusing to voluntarily accept Medicare to bolster the case that private health care is too unreliable. Thus, all medical professionals should be government contractors if not outright government employees to ensure everyone has equal access — except the elites who drafted the law and then exempted themselves from it.


6 posted on 07/29/2013 11:21:27 AM PDT by walford (http://natural-law-natural-religion.blogspot.com/)
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To: grania

I just know when I am ready to retire my urologist is going to be a former cab driver from Kazakhstan.


7 posted on 07/29/2013 11:21:46 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (The reason we own guns is to protect ourselves from those wanting to take our guns from us.)
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To: grania
"I've said all along that there will be a two-tiered system. There will be those who can afford to opt out of Obama care and have their own medical structures. Then there will be those who have federal health insurance, where everthing will be controlled. Those who don't opt out will find that they're treated as categories, not individuals."

Yes, one category will be Opponents of the Regime = Soylent Green.

8 posted on 07/29/2013 11:29:19 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: walford
"All of this is by design and part of a long-term plan toward a total government takeover of healthcare. The Obamanites can flog the fact that doctors are refusing to voluntarily accept Medicare to bolster the case that private health care is too unreliable. Thus, all medical professionals should be government contractors if not outright government employees to ensure everyone has equal access — except the elites who drafted the law and then exempted themselves from it."

Agree...bears repeating. The big plot all along.

9 posted on 07/29/2013 11:29:42 AM PDT by hummingbird (THE LIBERTY AMENDMENTS by Mark Levin. He has a great plan!)
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To: Olog-hai

We need LOTS more people to sign Ted Cruz’s petition to DEFUND Obamacare.

http://www.dontfundobamacare.com


10 posted on 07/29/2013 11:33:14 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: Olog-hai

I wouldn’t be surprised if an underground health care market sprang up. it would make more sense than the crap ReBamaLosi are forcing on us.


11 posted on 07/29/2013 11:35:22 AM PDT by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: Olog-hai

Are these doctors refusing to treat patients with Medicare AND supplemental insurance or those patients with ONLY Medicare?


12 posted on 07/29/2013 11:36:34 AM PDT by Roccus
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To: Olog-hai

Leave it to the federal government to mess up the best health care system in the world.

And make no mistake — Republicans have no real interest in repeal. They want the power over life and death as much as the Democrats do.


13 posted on 07/29/2013 11:37:11 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: Olog-hai
I have a lib relative who couldn't voted for 0 and couldn't wait to turn 65 to get on Medicare.

It's almost funny watching how irate she gets every time ANOTHER one of her docs stops accepting Medicare, or retires ;)

14 posted on 07/29/2013 11:38:38 AM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs stay silent.)
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To: Roccus
"Are these doctors refusing to treat patients with Medicare AND supplemental insurance or those patients with ONLY Medicare?"

Don't know the direct answer to your question, but I know doctors who will not take any patient who has Medicare, but will take private insurance. Medicare is always primary, so these practices have opted out of any Medicare patients.

15 posted on 07/29/2013 11:50:17 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: Olog-hai
Don't worry.The Rats will soon try to pass legislation *forcing* them to accept Medicare.And then,when doctors decide to retire (or quit) rather than become free labor for the government they'll pass legislation forbidding them from retiring or quitting before the age of 75.
16 posted on 07/29/2013 11:53:32 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (If Obama Had A City It Would Look Like Detroit.)
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To: Olog-hai
My mom recently had a simple procedure done with a doc who didn't take Medicare. She was a little concerned, but this doc came highly recommended.

She said that the cost was a little over $100. Eminently reasonable, for what she had taken care of.

Interesting, I thought, a real throwback to the olden days. Take the Gov't out of the equasion, and prices go down. We can't be having that, sez I, and Obamacare will quickly squelch any dissenters.

17 posted on 07/29/2013 12:00:33 PM PDT by wbill
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To: Jim Robinson
Comrade Obama’s not going to like this. He’ll be writing executive orders soon to FORCE all doctors to work under HIS plan and LIKE it.

Which will be followed with the headline: "More doctors closing practices and retiring from profession."

18 posted on 07/29/2013 12:05:11 PM PDT by 5thGenTexan
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19 posted on 07/29/2013 12:07:54 PM PDT by deoetdoctrinae (Gun-free zones are playgrounds for felons.)
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To: walford
Thus, all medical professionals should be government contractors if not outright government employees

Yes, the leftists will fix this problem by making medical license renewals contingent upon their acceptance of Medicare/Medicaid patients - effectively dragooning the doctors into becoming government employees.

The MDs WILL eat the government dog food, and they WILL like it.

20 posted on 07/29/2013 12:11:03 PM PDT by bkopto (Obama and Biden are merely symptoms of a more profound, systemic disease in American body politic.)
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To: Olog-hai

Oddly enough, because it was essential for Obamacare to kill Medicare, so Obamacare could live, the killing of Medicare has been the one thing Obamacare has been good at.

At this creates a superb opportunity. Medicare was already dying, because it could no longer continue to exist with its endless growth. It *had* to die. And if after Medicare is on its last legs, Obamacare is killed by the Republicans, that leaves America with *no* national health care.

And this is actually a problem for the Republicans.

The first, awful, inclination will be for the Republicans to try and resuscitate Medicare. This would be an unmitigated disaster, because Medicare cannot exist—it will bankrupt us, as deeply in debt as we are.

So the next idea is that there is NO national health care at all, of any kind, which will scare a bunch of senior citizens to near death.

This could be a political nightmare for Republicans.

So the best bet is for them, right now, to be planning on a massive privatization of national health care. And this must incorporate several very important ideas:

1) Routine medical care cannot be provided through insurance. This is because like the government programs, it drives the price of medical care through the roof.

So routine medical care must be entirely private: cash paid from patients to doctors and not reimbursed. If you can’t pay for it, you don’t get it.

HMOs and health co-ops can pick up a lot of slack, here, but they don’t get external payments from government to do so.

2) Catastrophic insurance and long term care insurance have to be created, possibly with a public-private partnership, because it is not profitable enough for an insurer to exclusively provide.

3) Medicaid still exists, but as block grants to the states, and left up to the states as how they use that money as long as it is exclusively for health care for the poor and public health. They can add to it with their own money, but they cannot divert funds for other things.

There will be a ton of other things that will take the place of Obamacare and Medicare, but the Republicans must have a plan from top to bottom ready to go.


21 posted on 07/29/2013 12:36:46 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Be Brave! Fear is just the opposite of Nar!)
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To: Olog-hai

People who are “of age” should be able to buy their own insurance in the private market.

Then a network of “VA” style hospitals should be established.

You want free medical care and are old enough, you go there. And that’s it. There would be no MediCare outside of that building. No jazzies, no free chair lifts, &c. After 35-40 years we shut that down, too, and cancel the whole debacle.

It’s not a pretty concept, but socialized medical care funded by the government in the pseudo-private sector does not work and we can no longer pretend that it can or will.

We will not begin the process of affordable health care until the Government gets completely out of it.


22 posted on 07/29/2013 12:44:13 PM PDT by Noamie
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To: Olog-hai

Folks.....sign the Lee/Cruz “www.dontfundobamacare” petition!!!


23 posted on 07/29/2013 12:52:48 PM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX ( My only objective is to defeat and destroy Obama & his Democrat Party, politically!!!)
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To: Truth29

Thank you.

This thread got me to do some investigating and it seems that as long as the doctor is in the “network” of my insurance provider, they will accept Medicare plus the supplemental


24 posted on 07/29/2013 12:59:00 PM PDT by Roccus
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

Every Freeper, every Conservative, every Republican, every American should sign this great petition sponsored by Senators Mike Lee & Ted Cruz!!! Takes all of about thirty seconds. “www.dontfundobamacare.com” Do it!!!


25 posted on 07/29/2013 1:08:45 PM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX ( My only objective is to defeat and destroy Obama & his Democrat Party, politically!!!)
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To: bkopto
"Yes, the leftists will fix this problem by making medical license renewals contingent upon their acceptance of Medicare/Medicaid patients - effectively dragooning the doctors into becoming government employees."

I suspect you are correct, but that will lead to an even more booming off shore medical industry for those with the means. Places in the Caribbean, Costa Rica or Panama will provide quality care for a lot less than the US.

26 posted on 07/29/2013 1:21:33 PM PDT by Truth29
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To: grania

I know quite a few doctors....that will just close shop.


27 posted on 07/29/2013 1:22:33 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.)
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To: Olog-hai; ExTexasRedhead

Ping for later ........................................................................................ FRegards


28 posted on 07/29/2013 1:27:02 PM PDT by gonzo ( Buy more ammo, dammit! You should already have the firearms ... FRegards)
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To: JohnBrowdie

Or a DIY system like in those ads where the guy is holding a scalpel and is on the phone with a surgeon & saying “shouldn’t you be doing this?”


29 posted on 07/29/2013 1:58:29 PM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: Olog-hai

When Obamacare kicks in a Medicare card won’t even get you a discount dinner at Denny’s. Medicare patients will be waiting in line for their 10 minute visit with a nurse practitioner or physician’s assistant at some second rate government clinic just like the rest of us.


30 posted on 07/29/2013 2:00:16 PM PDT by The Great RJ (construction)
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To: Roccus
Are these doctors refusing to treat patients with Medicare AND supplemental insurance or those patients with ONLY Medicare?

When I signed up for medicare, I was told that a secondary provider was not optional, I had to have one. My primary provider became my secondary provider.

31 posted on 07/29/2013 2:30:46 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (_.. ._. .. _. _._ __ ___ ._. . ___ ..._ ._ ._.. _ .. _. .)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

Bump!


32 posted on 07/29/2013 2:48:26 PM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs stay silent.)
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To: Graybeard58

When I signed up for Medicare in 2010, there was no mention whatever of a secondary provider. My primary did become my secondary,but by my choice. I could have just as easily dropped it.


33 posted on 07/29/2013 4:45:54 PM PDT by Roccus
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To: Roccus

I remember now why it wasn’t possible to drop my secondary provider, formerly my primary. That provider is still my wife’s and two minor children’s primary provider and it’s a family plan.

Also, my secondary provider, which is my former employer, pays my medicare premiums, when my wife becomes eligible, they will also pay hers.

They don’t actually pay the monthly premiums but send me a check every 6 months to repay me for paying the premiums.


34 posted on 07/29/2013 8:25:10 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (_.. ._. .. _. _._ __ ___ ._. . ___ ..._ ._ ._.. _ .. _. .)
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To: Olog-hai

He intends to destroy the nation..


35 posted on 07/29/2013 11:19:27 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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