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To: onyx

Speaking of Karl Rove....hiya Onyx!.....

I got a question and it was brought to my attention by Karl Rove.

It’s about this defunding of Obamacare.

Rove was on Fox yesterday with his silly whiteboard. He said something that left me curious.

Rove said that the vast majority of Obamacare was funded by built-ins right in the bill, that there is no effective way to defund it. For the pubs to attempt such a thing would be futile and would only stop gubmint programs people want and would not affect Obamacare at all.

Now know I don’t trust Karl Rove and obviously defunding Obamacare is not something the Pubs want to do, what’s new under the sun?

But could he be right?

Love to see Kabar’s take on this.


32 posted on 07/28/2013 6:36:14 AM PDT by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com/)
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To: Fishtalk

No, Rove is wrong.
Obamacare is a mess and this is the last chance to defund it.


45 posted on 07/28/2013 6:46:05 AM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: Fishtalk
Sadly, it's probably true that most of the financing for Obeycare is untouchable. Byron York of the Washington Examiner explained it this week.

As I remember, only a small percentage (administrative costs) require annual inclusion and approval in yearly budgets. As I understand, the entitlements go forward, no matter what.

.....which makes it a risky gamble. Rove and others may be correct in worrying about screwing up our numbers in the house. But, I'd go for it anyway. Our winning defense requires only a well articulated argument....but we're not very good at that with the media twisting every conservative thought.

97 posted on 07/28/2013 7:26:07 AM PDT by chiller (NBCNews et al is in the tank and should be embarrassed)
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To: Fishtalk
Good morning, Pat.

Re the prefunding in Obamacare, take a look at this article that was written two years ago.

To any who do not realize that over $105-billion has already been appropriated to fund Obamacare, I direct your attention to the February 10, 2011, revision of the Congressional Research Service’s paper, “Appropriations and Fund Transfers in the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (PPACA),” CRS number R41301. It documents the specific provisions that I’m discussing and the magnitude of those advance appropriations.

I remember Steve King saying in eary 2011 that the Reps had one shot at defunding Obamacare, but it was never approved. They had the leverage and momentum after the 2010 midterms, but lacked the courage to take the necessary action.

149 posted on 07/28/2013 8:18:16 AM PDT by kabar
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