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Associated Press Refuses to Comment on Demand for Concealed Weapon Permit Lists
Media Trackers Montana ^ | July 26, 2013 | Ron Catlett

Posted on 07/28/2013 5:26:53 AM PDT by george76

The Associated Press (AP) is refusing to comment on why it requested that the Montana Department of Justice (MDOJ) give it a list of the names and personal information of every concealed weapons permit (CWP) holder in the state...

Montana’s Republican Attorney General Tim Fox had denied requests by the AP and a Boston media outfit called MuckRock News for all information pertaining to the state’s CWP holders. Fox cited concerns that the width and breadth of the requests violated CWP holders’ “reasonable expectation of privacy” guaranteed by the Montana Constitution...

AP reporter Matt Gouras formally requested the information on March 18. “We’d like all public information included on each permit holder, including, but not limited to: last name, first name, middle, street address, city, employer, age or DOB, driver’s license number, date of application,”

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1 posted on 07/28/2013 5:26:53 AM PDT by george76
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To: george76

It’s funny how the AP wants information on concealed carry permit holders, yet they scream like stuck pigs when the NSA under the 0bama regime spies on them.


2 posted on 07/28/2013 5:29:58 AM PDT by RedStateGuyTrappedinCT
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To: george76

The “why” is obvious: to “out” the permit holders and try to make them social pariahs, in pursuance of the “progressive” jihad against gun owners.


3 posted on 07/28/2013 5:31:21 AM PDT by hitkicker (The only thing worse than a politician is a child molester)
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To: george76

The AP is merely another branch of the Progressive/Dem’s info gathering and propoganda spewer....State-Run-Media has the fools who listen to them indoctrinated into thinking the “News” is actually factual.


4 posted on 07/28/2013 5:32:19 AM PDT by traditional1 (Amerika.....Providing public housing for the Mulatto Messiah)
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To: george76

As far as I’m concerned the Associated Press is a foreign entity even though it has its headquarters in the United States. It long ago ceased being an American organization.

They have no right to information just because they ask for it. They are our outright enemies IMO.


5 posted on 07/28/2013 5:32:20 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: george76

Investigate MuckRock News and why this is their business!


6 posted on 07/28/2013 5:32:56 AM PDT by rawhide
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To: george76

Where in the Constitution does it say that our weapons must be “registered”?

This government can go to Hell.


7 posted on 07/28/2013 5:47:13 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: george76

8 posted on 07/28/2013 5:47:28 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: george76
Pity.
The AP was once the gold standard in news reporting.
Now it appears they want to manufacture news articles.
9 posted on 07/28/2013 5:50:40 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks ("Say Not the Struggle Naught Availeth.")
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To: george76

A group of concealed weapon permit holders in Montana need to meet and have a little “talk” with this scumbag Matt Gouras.

Here in Maine, The Bangor Daily News tried to pull this stunt earlier this year and attempted to obtain a list of concealed weapons permit holders in Maine for “research purposes.”

It created a firestorm, and both republicans and democrats joined forces in the legislature and quickly passed a bill making it illegal to divulge the names and other personal information about concealed carry Maine citizens. Our republican governor signed the bill.


10 posted on 07/28/2013 5:59:10 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms should be a chain of convenience stores.)
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To: hitkicker

And we thought 1945 was the end of the Nazi era. The pigs at AP are part of the new Gestapo.


11 posted on 07/28/2013 6:00:04 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
It was always thought of as the gold standard but the truth is it never was.

They always pushed their agenda spiking and misrepresenting stories to suit their leftist political agenda.

It is only now that we have the new media to catch and call them on their lies and misinformation.

12 posted on 07/28/2013 6:08:00 AM PDT by riverrunner
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To: george76

As soon as the MSM folks obtain and publicize a list of al of its folks who have carry permits 9or even own guns), we will consider giving them the phone book so they can do further “research”.


13 posted on 07/28/2013 6:11:39 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: RedStateGuyTrappedinCT

AP reporter Matt Gouras is a ComDem Activist.

I suspect he has run for cover.

The locals should expose the B_tard.


14 posted on 07/28/2013 6:29:29 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Once a Republic, since then a State in the US, but it is Still Texas where I live.)
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To: riverrunner
I know it probably dates me but I remember when the AP was a straight news outfit. I very nearly went to work for them in the mid 1970s but changed careers and left the scribbling profession.
15 posted on 07/28/2013 6:31:26 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks ("Say Not the Struggle Naught Availeth.")
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To: george76

This is a pretty clear call. The most these scoundrels can claim is a “public interest” in revealing that information. But this does not balance at all with the “actual harm” caused to these people by the public release of their information.

However, the best bet is for the state to “go Arizona”, and invalidate the need for *any* CWP for a person who may legally own a gun. This works very well in Arizona, and would almost certainly work very well in Montana, plus it would save the state and local governments millions of dollars.

(While the gun controllers then point out that Arizona ranks at either 7th or 11th among “gun homicides”, they neglect to mention that 71% of those “gun homicides” are suicides. If suicide is eliminated from the statistics, Arizona has perhaps the *lowest* “gun homicide” rate among the states.

Ironically, there is such a profusion of guns in Arizona that estimates are just guesswork; instead, Arizona compiles statistics on the number of licensed gun dealers (FFL) per capita, which is very high, but at least a manageable number. Scottsdale alone has 4.5 license holders for every 10,000 residents.)


16 posted on 07/28/2013 7:59:11 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Be Brave! Fear is just the opposite of Nar!)
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To: george76

Any reporter asks for and somehow gets my information they can expect a personal visit by me where I will be asking them point blank what they intend to do with that information. I will make my “interview” of him / her as uncomfortable as possible.


17 posted on 07/28/2013 8:26:27 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: hitkicker

Our sheriff has stated publicly and on the record he will destroy the database of cc permits before he would let it be turned over to anyone outside his office.


18 posted on 07/28/2013 8:29:29 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: george76

The MSM freely and actively promotes and abets a campaign of social terrorism against conservatives, especially gun owners and Christians.


19 posted on 07/28/2013 9:04:21 AM PDT by Spok
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To: george76

I object strictly as a matter of privacy, it’s none of their business and it’s my “Right to Keep and Bear”.


20 posted on 07/28/2013 9:29:38 AM PDT by duffee (NO poll tax, NO tax on firearms, ammunition or gun safes. NO gun free zones.)
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To: george76
About muckrock:

www.muckrock.com

About Us

Cofounder Michael Morisy is an award-winning journalist who has had worked featured in Business 2.0, the New England Center for Investigative Journalism, New York Daily News and many other national and local publications. He can be reached at Michael@MuckRock.com.

Cofounder Mitchell Kotler is a veteran of multiple high-tech startups including Achronix. He has a Masters in Electrical & Computer Engineering and a Bachelors of Science from Cornell University. He can be reached at Mitch@MuckRock.com.

News Editor Tom Nash was among the earliest MuckRock users, while serving as editor of hyperlocal news website Post Somerville. He can be reached at Tom@MuckRock.com. Mods; please pull if inappropriate

21 posted on 07/28/2013 9:44:05 AM PDT by correctthought ("Obamunism is a temporary setback on the road to freedom" - Liberty Prime)
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To: RedStateGuyTrappedinCT

Why don’t they just get a mailing list of everyone that lives in Montana, since almost everyone in Montana has a gun.


22 posted on 07/28/2013 11:48:11 AM PDT by fini
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To: george76

Stories like this remind of why I oppose government releasing the names of people who sign petitions supporting or opposing a law or policy. Newspapers get ahold of this information and use it as a kind of blackmail, “outing” people who support policies they oppose. The practice of releasing the names is always done under the pretext of the public’s “right to know” who is trying to influence politics, but the practice harms politics by making people less willing to participate due to fear of exposure. It is tantamount to making one’s ballot public.


23 posted on 07/28/2013 12:43:40 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: george76
Associated link and comments here.
24 posted on 07/28/2013 1:10:33 PM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: george76
Good!

Then give us the reporters Medical Records! What they hey it is all public data now with Obamacare! Especially the STD's, Jock Itch Medicine, etc etc, let's have their stuff !

25 posted on 07/28/2013 1:31:33 PM PDT by taildragger (The E-GOP won't know what hit them, The Party of Reagan is almost here, hang tight folks.....th)
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To: onedoug

Indeed, it is sad times for the folks who were intimidated into being on a CWP list.


26 posted on 07/28/2013 1:32:08 PM PDT by SisterK (RIP America)
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To: hitkicker

in liberal states maybe, but in MT? That is not likely to happen.


27 posted on 07/28/2013 3:14:07 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian. I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see.)
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To: fini

Pretty much. In South Dakota, people pull out their various state and out of states CCWs like trading cards while sitting at the bar. A few even consider them to be collections.


28 posted on 07/28/2013 3:16:27 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian. I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see.)
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To: george76

Matt Gouras. Another name for the list. It’s always good to know who your enemies are - that’s why he wanted the information in the first place.


29 posted on 07/28/2013 3:24:21 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: hitkicker

Agreed. This is why I do not have a permit!


30 posted on 07/28/2013 3:28:45 PM PDT by noprogs (Borders, Language, Culture)
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To: Gaffer
As far as I’m concerned the Associated Press is a foreign entity even though it has its headquarters in the United States.

You raise a good point, indirectly. What if Al Jazeera asked for the same information? After all, they are a news organization, too, arguably more so than AP.

31 posted on 07/28/2013 4:43:25 PM PDT by Hardastarboard (Buck Off, Bronco Bama)
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To: george76

Or they could just mail it to the NSA and the Nazi sounding Homeland Security. I am sure they would be interested.


32 posted on 07/28/2013 6:51:36 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: RedStateGuyTrappedinCT
It’s funny how the AP wants information on concealed carry permit holders, yet they scream like stuck pigs when the NSA under the 0bama regime spies on them.

PRiCELESS!©

33 posted on 07/28/2013 7:12:40 PM PDT by vox_freedom (America is being tested as never before in its history. May God help us.)
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To: george76

I think website ought to find and publish the addresses of these b@stards.


34 posted on 07/28/2013 7:29:11 PM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: Gaffer

AGREED


35 posted on 07/28/2013 8:40:37 PM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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To: hitkicker
The “why” is obvious: to “out” the permit holders and try to make them social pariahs, in pursuance of the “progressive” jihad against gun owners.

It goes far beyond "outing" permit holders to make them social pariahs. Providing current addresses on people who have fled an abusive spouse, who have individuals who have made credible and ongoing threats to their well-being, or who have moved to escape stalkers and other freaks, places those individuals and their families at risk.

The crusade to 'socially embarrass' people could lead to their death or the death of their loved ones (or a situation similar to a recently overly reported perpetrator elimination).

At the very least, they would be in possession of a list of firearm owners, which, if published, would provide ready-made burglary targets for those inclined to stake out the residences for an opportunity to steal firearms.

One thing is certain, no good will come of such information in the hands of those who make their living revealing information amidst hype.

36 posted on 07/28/2013 8:52:29 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: hitkicker

That’ll really play well in Montana. Yup. Montanans just hate gun owners./s


37 posted on 07/28/2013 9:29:25 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Spok

>> The MSM freely and actively promotes and abets a campaign of social terrorism against conservatives, especially gun owners and Christians.

bttt


38 posted on 07/28/2013 11:43:22 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Another great post.


39 posted on 07/28/2013 11:44:37 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: george76

AP: Because we’re communists bent on the destruction of America and all she stands for.


40 posted on 07/29/2013 5:50:28 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: george76
The Associated Press (AP) is refusing to comment on why it requested that the Montana Department of Justice (MDOJ) give it a list of the names and personal information of every concealed weapons permit (CWP) holder in the state...

Montana’s Republican Attorney General Tim Fox had denied requests by the AP and a Boston media outfit called MuckRock News for all information pertaining to the state’s CWP holders. Fox cited concerns that the width and breadth of the requests violated CWP holders’ “reasonable expectation of privacy” guaranteed by the Montana Constitution...

The Associated Press & MuckRock News? Are they some type of gubmint agency to demand this type of information?

I am glad that Montana AG Tim Fox rejected this request, but I wish he had used some more colorful language in rejecting it. WTF? AP thinks they the right to demand this type of information? I would have told them in no uncertain terms to blow it out their a$$es!!!

41 posted on 07/29/2013 6:02:01 AM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: hitkicker

Publish the age and address and help the criminals select the oldest, supposedly weakest victims. (Of course there can be surprising exceptions!)


42 posted on 07/29/2013 6:29:20 AM PDT by HomeAtLast
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To: RedStateGuyTrappedinCT

Why don’t they go to Planned Parenthood and demand the names, ages, phone numbers and addresses of all women who have had ABORTIONS???


43 posted on 07/29/2013 10:48:43 AM PDT by 2harddrive
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To: ThunderSleeps

“Our sheriff has stated publicly and on the record he will destroy the database of cc permits before he would let it be turned over to anyone outside his office.”

If he keeps that database on a computer, chances are the government already has it and will just “leak” it to any leftist media outlet that wants to publish it.


44 posted on 07/29/2013 11:16:55 AM PDT by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie)
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To: fini

Except the Kalifornia poofers who are moving there and buying up all the land.


45 posted on 07/29/2013 11:20:47 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: hitkicker

Yeah, but in Montana. A state that is kind of in support of the 2nd Amendment.

I know that a few cities have been invaded by Californians, but I’m thinking that there isn’t too much shame in having a CCW or owning guns in that state.


46 posted on 07/29/2013 7:01:30 PM PDT by qaz123
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