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Rand Paul to Chris Christie: You Need to Talk To More Real Americans
Washington Times ^ | Friday, July 26, 2013 | By Ralph Z. Hallow and David Sherfinski

Posted on 07/26/2013 9:22:18 AM PDT by drewh

Republican rivals Gov. Chris Christie of New Jersey and Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky are escalating their feud over national security policy and liberty.

In comments at a forum of Republican governors in Aspen, Col. Thursday, Mr. Christie said the libertarian strain championed by Mr. Paul currently coursing through the veins of political parties — as evidenced by broad, although ultimately unsuccessful, lobbying in the House of Representatives against NSA surveillance programs this week — is dangerous.

“This strain of libertarianism that’s going through parties right now and making big headlines I think is a very dangerous thought,” Mr. Christie said Thursday in Aspen, Colo. on at a forum of Republican governors. “You can name any number of people and [Mr. Paul is] one of them.”

Mr. Christie, like Mr. Paul considered a possible 2016 presidential contender, criticized what he called “esoteric, intellectual debates” that Mr. Paul and fellow conservatives such as Sen. Mike Lee of Utah have been conducting over the constitutional limits on unreasonable search and seizure and warrantless government surveillance.

A top aide to Mr. Paul immediately fired back, telling The Washington Times the senator’s opposition to government drone policies and surveillance programs are designed to “protect the freedoms that make America exceptional.”

“If Gov. Christie believe the constitutional rights and the privacy of all Americans are ‘esoteric,’ he either needs a new dictionary or he needs to talk to more Americans, because a great number of them are concerned about the dramatic overreach of our government in recent times,” Paul senior advisor Doug Stafford said.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Colorado; US: Kentucky; US: New Jersey
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To: Ohioan
The Fort Hood traitor may die of old age, before he is ever brought to Justice! The feds are too busy with other projects, apparently.

Obama knows that if Major Nidal Hasan is tried, he'll be convicted (there are dozens of eye-witnesses to the shooting) and receive the death penalty. Obama won't let a Muslim be executed on his watch so he'll make sure the trial is postponed indefinitely. Hasan isn't going to complain. If Hasan is finally tried and convicted, he'll appeal and drag the process out even longer, at least until Obama is out of office (if he ever is). Then the Muslims will make a big stink and try to use our laws and our constitution to spare Hasan from execution. That will fail. His crime was too horrific to be justified or explained away and Hasan has shown he won't play the remorse game so he'll finally be executed, probably around 2018.

41 posted on 07/27/2013 3:02:11 PM PDT by Jim Scott
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To: X-spurt

Your analysis of Christie is right on!

Rand Paul thinks we should have a great military primarily geared for defense, that we should quit sending money to ations that hate us, we should help defend our allies, and nation building through war (Iraq) is not the right thing to do. Rand Paul thinks that if we have to go to war, we strike hard, using our power to defeat quickly rather than have a war designed to make defense contractors rich.


42 posted on 07/27/2013 6:26:15 PM PDT by entropy12 (Even tho Obama is now a lame duck, with 2014 House majority, he will be a dangerously socialist!)
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To: Ohioan

>>>I think that the way to handle him is by making it very clear that Liberty is more important than safety in the American context.

In the American context, there is no safety without liberty. That’s actually what needs to be made clear to him.


43 posted on 07/27/2013 7:33:03 PM PDT by GoodDay
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To: frickin_frackin

Apparently you missed the point of the utter hypocrisy of Obama. And the to your question, in some case it is better to capture terrorist for intel and not, they don’t get the same rights as US citizens.


44 posted on 07/28/2013 5:50:10 AM PDT by 11th Commandment (http://www.thirty-thousand.org/)
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To: entropy12

Said well!

I don’t think Christie is going anywhere and the GOPe knows it, but they are happy to have a loudmouth slob talk bad about the GOPe’s biggest danger.


45 posted on 07/28/2013 7:55:33 AM PDT by X-spurt (Ready for the CRUZ missle.)
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To: cookcounty

Paul is not a libertarian either. Libertarians’ are pro choice, pro homosexual agenda and open borders. Paul is none of those things.


46 posted on 07/28/2013 8:37:02 AM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been offically denied)
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To: EricT.

If you ever want to win a national election again then you had better stop insulting conservatives that lean libertarian. There is a huge difference real Libertarians and those of us that want a small constitutional government that protects individual liberty.


47 posted on 07/28/2013 8:44:43 AM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been offically denied)
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To: drewh

Don’t worry- large government agencies, the the IRS, or NSA, would NEVER use their power, and vast information, for domestic political purposes, or to harass conservatives....

Inconceivable!


48 posted on 07/28/2013 9:05:11 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: jpsb

You don’t know much about Libertarians, do you?


49 posted on 07/29/2013 4:53:12 AM PDT by EricT. (This post has been recorded and cataloged for your security.)
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To: jpsb

Joke’s on you. I am a libertarian-leaning conservative.

I am also registered as an Independent.


50 posted on 07/29/2013 4:57:42 AM PDT by EricT. (This post has been recorded and cataloged for your security.)
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To: stockpirate
‘I’m waiting for the FR cult of Ann followers to come on and defend Christie and Ann over these remarks’

Based on a couple of things I have seen my take is that Ms. Coulter’s apparent ‘embrace’ of the fat boy was as close as she could come to giving a finger to the GOP insiders who effectively black mailed her into shutting up before the 2012 campaign. Christie is the embodiment of bad politics, big, fat, sloppy, and out of control and Ms. Coulter certainly knew that. Before the 2012 campaign was well underway some insider hatchet men , think say Mike Murphy and that bald queer that ‘ran’ the McCain campaign, quietly told A C that if she didn't shut her snarky mouth during the Mitt procession she was going to be effectively Palined and there were plenty of very embarrassing photos showing Ann engaging in various activities with few or no clothes on and a lot of shall we say lapses in personal conduct that would mysteriously be leaked to tabloids and programs such as ‘Hollywood tonight’ and from there the firestorm would take off. She knew she was figuratively screwed and her absurd neo-sexual embrace of Christie was as close as she could come to throwing it back at her black mailers.

51 posted on 07/30/2013 8:28:51 AM PDT by robowombat
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To: RobbyS
Our government more and more resembles that of King George.

From what I know of the two men's personalities and personal lives I would pick George III to be President seven days a week over BHO. George III may have been narrow and a bit pompous but he was an ethical, hard working, and moral man who strove to execute the powers of his office in the best way he perceived the interests of all his subjects. There is nothing good in BHO, I have reluctantly come to believe. We are led by a deeply flawed morally corrupt and ethically compromised man who basically wants to harm in a real material sense the lives and livelihoods of many of the citizens of the country he leads. This is what is really new and evil in this administration. There have been many failed presidents and in the case of Clinton a psychologically maladjusted one. None have ever had feelings of active hatred or a large part of the American population. BHO, due to his twisted childhood and adolescence seeks people to be the target of his anger and rage as psychological displacement. BHO hates normal middle class especially white Americans and would do them real harm as much as he can.

52 posted on 07/30/2013 8:37:13 AM PDT by robowombat
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