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Tax reform proposals to be secret for 50 years
CNNMoney.com ^ | July 25, 2013 | NEW YORK (CNNMoney)

Posted on 07/26/2013 7:40:02 AM PDT by TexasCajun

Tax reform is apparently so treacherous for senators these days that they require the utmost protection from the public -- half a century's worth.

The leaders of the Senate Finance Committee last month asked senators to submit written proposals detailing tax breaks they'd like to see preserved once the tax code is reformed and explain why. The point was to help inform committee leaders in their efforts to craft a tax reform bill.

The request apparently wasn't embraced, and the committee has now promised skittish senators that their proposals will be kept secret for 50 years.

A memo sent out on July 19 promised to mark all submissions "COMMITTEE CONFIDENTIAL. NOT FOR DISTRIBUTION. DO NOT COPY.

These materials may not be released to the public from the National Archives or by the Finance Committee prior to December 31, 2064."

(Excerpt) Read more at money.cnn.com ...


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KEYWORDS: cowards; irs; secret; secrettaxreform; senate; senatefinance; taxes; taxreform
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To: TexasCajun

Why is it that our representatives like to create laws and policy in secret?

Our country was founded on an open dialog and public debate. (Federalists Vs Anti-Federalists and others)


41 posted on 07/26/2013 2:04:53 PM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: a fool in paradise
Snowden ... was angered that Obama wasn’t following up on all of his promises to the far left fast enough.

Got a link to support that stupid statement, or do you just want to be widely regarded as a lying retard?

42 posted on 07/26/2013 2:12:54 PM PDT by meadsjn
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To: meadsjn

FUmeadjn

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/06/17/Snowden-Rips-Obama-For-Not-Closing-Gitmo

“Obama’s campaign promises and election gave me faith that he would lead us toward fixing the problems he outlined in his quest for votes. Many Americans felt similarly. Unfortunately, shortly after assuming power, he closed the door on investigating systemic violations of law, deepened and expanded several abusive programs, and refused to spend the political capital to end the kind of human rights violations like we see in Guantanamo, where men still sit without charge.”

He’s a bedwetting Obamavoter.


43 posted on 07/26/2013 2:16:29 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: meadsjn

meadsjnretard much?


44 posted on 07/26/2013 2:17:09 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: a fool in paradise
shortly after assuming power, he closed the door on investigating systemic violations of law, deepened and expanded several abusive programs,

Thanks for proving my point.

Nothing in that statement by Snowden mentions moving the country to the left.

45 posted on 07/26/2013 2:18:45 PM PDT by meadsjn
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To: meadsjn

The other half of that statement (that he took the job as did Manning TO LEAK):

http://www.theverge.com/2013/6/24/4460028/edward-snowden-booz-allen-nsa-contractor-job

Edward Snowden says he took Booz Allen job to collect, leak NSA info

In an interview with the South China Morning Post, Snowden said that he took a job with Booz Allen specifically to gather information on the NSA’s spying efforts. His role as a source of leaks, sharing details of international surveillance efforts to the press, was something he says he envisioned for himself before taking the job.


46 posted on 07/26/2013 2:19:11 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: a fool in paradise
None of that even pretends to hint that Snowden was left-wing.

Statist surveillance of law-abiding citizens is the stuff of left-wing communists -- commies like Obama, GWB, Cheney, the Clintons, GHWB, etc.

47 posted on 07/26/2013 2:24:12 PM PDT by meadsjn
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To: OneWingedShark

When you have more than 75 members of Congress sponsoring your amendment along with endorsements from Fed Board Governors and State Governors along with millions of grassroots supporters, let me know.


48 posted on 07/26/2013 2:45:13 PM PDT by Hostage (Be Breitbart!)
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To: meadsjn

Snowden has been sucking commie cock since the day he ran.

Go on an tell me more about how marvey Ron Paul is.


49 posted on 07/26/2013 2:45:49 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: a fool in paradise
You have posted nothing to support your contention that Snowden is left-wing. Nothing has been published to support it.

I do not, and have never, supported Ron Paul.

You're batting zero.

50 posted on 07/26/2013 2:48:37 PM PDT by meadsjn
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To: Hostage
When you have more than 75 members of Congress sponsoring your amendment along with endorsements from Fed Board Governors and State Governors along with millions of grassroots supporters, let me know.

Popularity is not the same thing as good, neither is acceptance.

51 posted on 07/26/2013 3:09:42 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

Those folks are idiots...only an idiot would “loan” the government money at no interest.

I had one idiot tell me, “well, it’s like a savings account”. No lie. I couldn’t believe how stupid they were.


52 posted on 07/26/2013 3:14:30 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Note to the NSA: I approved this dissention. What are you going to do about it Punks?)
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To: OneWingedShark

It’s only “progressive” if you spend more and thus pay more tax. Higher incomes tend to spend more than lower so it looks “progressive” but not technically since the rate doesn’t change.

By that definition a Flat Tax is also “progressive” since the more you make the more you pay.

Progressive defined is higher rates as you make higher incomes. Neither the Flat or Fair Tax do that.


53 posted on 07/26/2013 3:17:47 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Note to the NSA: I approved this dissention. What are you going to do about it Punks?)
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To: Fledermaus

I had a *conservative* friend tell me “he relies on his tax return every year...!

I said “so, you like to loan the government your money... interest-free?

He failed to come up with a reply and sort of wandered off. I just left it there. ARGH.


54 posted on 07/26/2013 3:20:00 PM PDT by SparkyBass
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To: SparkyBass

It’s frustrating, isn’t it?


55 posted on 07/26/2013 3:20:53 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Note to the NSA: I approved this dissention. What are you going to do about it Punks?)
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To: Fledermaus

“Those folks are idiots...only an idiot would “loan” the government money at no interest.”

The only thing in his favor was,,,, he was able to keep his crazy, and now ex, wife from spending the money as fast as it came in. When he got his refund, he put it straight into his kids’ college fund, where she couldn’t get at it.


56 posted on 07/26/2013 3:23:51 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: OneWingedShark
Nope - Not in a tax-reform amendment; that calls for a separate Financial Responsibility amendment:

Fair enough. But I love this idea. Every Republican Congressman and Senator should have a wish list of amendments in their pockets at all times, perhaps each item of the list could be prioritized accordingly. But these scoundrels are so wrapped up in politics. If they bothered to espouse the great principles, there job would be easy...if they were not scoundrels...until proven otherwise.

57 posted on 07/26/2013 3:28:00 PM PDT by VRW Conspirator (The Lefties can drink Kool-Aid; I will drink Tea.)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

ROFL. Well, that’s one way to look at it.


58 posted on 07/26/2013 3:28:17 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Note to the NSA: I approved this dissention. What are you going to do about it Punks?)
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To: OneWingedShark

If you think of yourself so highly that you hold ‘your amendment’ to be ‘good’ in the face of zero support, and that zero support by others must be because they do not recognize your ‘good’ amendment, then you are delusional.

The FairTax is not going to get 100% following but it has a large and growing following of people that are not delusional and can see the myriad benefits and advantages of the FairTax.

The FairTax is not complex, the Rebate is not complex. The legislation is only 133 pages long. It is amazingly simple in its design and it is by far the most fair and most supported tax reform in the nation today.

The Flat tax has about 6 sponsors to the FairTax’s 55. Those sponsors have staffs and constituents with professional training in law, taxation and business. They are capable of understanding how important the FairTax is.


59 posted on 07/26/2013 4:10:39 PM PDT by Hostage (Be Breitbart!)
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To: OneWingedShark

Your amendment is so full of holes and inconsistencies that it will never be taken seriously.

For example, your amendment cannot coexist with the 16th Amendment. You would have to first repeal the 16th Amendment.

But once the 16th is repealed, your section 5 which is inconsistent with your section 1, would be unconstitutional, and your section 6 would be unnecessary due to the uniformity clause. And the list just goes on and on.

In short, your amendment looks like an amateur’s exercise in making a list of rants look like some sort of edict.

I’ll tell you what, get just 2 members of Congress to sponsor your amendment, and I will reconsider my judgement that your amendment is rubbish.


60 posted on 07/26/2013 4:26:18 PM PDT by Hostage (Be Breitbart!)
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