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Tax reform proposals to be secret for 50 years
CNNMoney.com ^ | July 25, 2013 | NEW YORK (CNNMoney)

Posted on 07/26/2013 7:40:02 AM PDT by TexasCajun

Tax reform is apparently so treacherous for senators these days that they require the utmost protection from the public -- half a century's worth.

The leaders of the Senate Finance Committee last month asked senators to submit written proposals detailing tax breaks they'd like to see preserved once the tax code is reformed and explain why. The point was to help inform committee leaders in their efforts to craft a tax reform bill.

The request apparently wasn't embraced, and the committee has now promised skittish senators that their proposals will be kept secret for 50 years.

A memo sent out on July 19 promised to mark all submissions "COMMITTEE CONFIDENTIAL. NOT FOR DISTRIBUTION. DO NOT COPY.

These materials may not be released to the public from the National Archives or by the Finance Committee prior to December 31, 2064."

(Excerpt) Read more at money.cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cowards; irs; secret; secrettaxreform; senate; senatefinance; taxes; taxreform
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How cowardly is this? ...shameful.
1 posted on 07/26/2013 7:40:02 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: TexasCajun

Only one tax reform is true reform.....FAIRTAX.

http://www.fairtax.org/site/PageServer?pagename=FAQs


2 posted on 07/26/2013 7:44:04 AM PDT by Hostage (Be Breitbart!)
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To: TexasCajun

“Every thing secret degenerates, even the administration of justice; nothing is safe that does not show how it can bear discussion and publicity.” Lord Acton


3 posted on 07/26/2013 7:45:06 AM PDT by SMARTY ("The test of every religious, political, or educational system is the man that it forms." H. Amiel)
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To: TexasCajun

Shadow government defined. Secession. Now more than ever, it’s the right thing to do.


4 posted on 07/26/2013 7:45:43 AM PDT by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: Hostage
No, no thank you.
Under the FairTax, all Americans consume what they see as their necessities of life free of tax. While permitting no exemptions, the FairTax (HR25/S122) provides a monthly universal prebate to ensure that each family unit can consume tax free at or beyond the poverty level, with the overall effect of making the FairTax progressive in application. There is no marriage penalty as the couple gets twice the amount that a single adult receives.

I'd be all for a flat-rate income tax with no exemptions, no credits, no rebates, and no withholdings.

5 posted on 07/26/2013 7:48:11 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark

They should end employers withholding taxes from employee’s paychecks whist tax reform is being debated. Make EVERYONE write a quarterly check to the IRS. There would be a tax revolt!
I once asked a friend how much he made. He said, “Well, I take home,,,,,” He really didn’t pay attention to how much was being taken from him. Another had more withheld than required, cuz he liked the big rebate check!


6 posted on 07/26/2013 7:56:35 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: TexasCajun

Probably because their plans include 401k confiscation.


7 posted on 07/26/2013 7:57:38 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: TexasCajun

Clearly we need an Amendment defining their rules for them.


8 posted on 07/26/2013 7:59:28 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: TexasCajun

Politicians don’t want their constituents to know what they are doing.....How about putting a certain percentage in cash of what you owe the Federal Government in a lock box....


9 posted on 07/26/2013 8:01:01 AM PDT by yoe ("They Come To America" order it now: http://www.theycometoamerica.com/buy-dvd/)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
They should end employers withholding taxes from employee’s paychecks whist tax reform is being debated.

I highly agree. I think that withholdings are themselves quite immoral: either stealing from the employee, or forcing the employer to perpetrate fraud.

Make EVERYONE write a quarterly check to the IRS. There would be a tax revolt!

I'd be happy if it were yearly, or twice a year.
Yes, I realize that people would crap their pants over a yearly one... for the first few years; but that's only because they've been conditioned not to think about the future WRT finances.

I once asked a friend how much he made. He said, “Well, I take home,,,,,” He really didn’t pay attention to how much was being taken from him. Another had more withheld than required, cuz he liked the big rebate check!

Interest-free loan to the government: they must really love that sucker.

10 posted on 07/26/2013 8:02:14 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: TexasCajun

Where is Snowden when you need him?...............


11 posted on 07/26/2013 8:04:41 AM PDT by Red Badger (Want to be surprised? Google your own name......Want to have fun? Google your friend's names........)
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To: TexasCajun

Difficult to believe this is not satire, perhaps there is really no such thing as political satire these days.


12 posted on 07/26/2013 8:05:17 AM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: PowderMonkey

I agree. It’s getting bad now...

CA....


13 posted on 07/26/2013 8:06:38 AM PDT by Chances Are (Seems I've found that silly grin again....)
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To: TexasCajun

Just about every senator has been bought by special interests which want favorable treatment from the government. That happens when government gets so big it can grant favors and benefits to selected groups or businesses over the rest of those in the economy or we little guys without a hook into government.

All these interests tell their tame senator what tax breaks, special treatment from regulators, what inside deals on government contracts, what laws or benefits they need to keep the members of the interest group happy (and contributing) or what insider trading tips they need to stay rich, etc.

The only real reform is to shrink government and make it illegal to call a bribe a campaign contribution. A simple tax plan will only happen when the senators and House members can’t reward the ones pulling their strings.


14 posted on 07/26/2013 8:07:24 AM PDT by RicocheT (Where neither their property nor their honor is touched, most men live content, Niccolo Machiavelli)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Clearly we need an Amendment defining their rules for them.

Something like this?

Tax Reform Amendment

Section I
No tax, federal or state, shall ever be withheld from the wages of a worker of any citizen of either.

Section II
No property shall be seized for failure to pay taxes until after conviction in a jury trial; the right of the jury to nullify (and thereby forgive) this debt shall never be questioned or denied.

Section III
The second amendment is hereby recognized as restricting the power of taxation, both federal and state, therefore no tax (or fine) shall be laid upon munitions or the sale thereof.

Section IV
The seventh amendment is also hereby recognized, and nothing in this amendment shall restrict the right of a citizen to seek civil redress.

Section V
No income tax levied by the federal government, the several States, or any subdivision of either shall ever exceed 10%.

Section VI
No income tax levied by the federal government, the several States, or any subdivision of either shall ever apply varying rates to those in its jurisdiction.

Section VII
No retroactive or ex post facto tax (or fee) shall ever be valid.

Section VIII
The congress may not delegate the creation of any tax or fine in any way.

Section IX
No federal employee, representative, senator, judge, justice or agent shall ever be exempt from any tax or fee by virtue of their position.

Section X
Any federal employee, representative, senator, judge, justice or agent applying, attempting to apply, or otherwise causing the application of an ex post facto or retroactive law shall, upon conviction, be evicted from office and all retirement benefits forfeit.

15 posted on 07/26/2013 8:07:51 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: John Semmens

Source material (( ping ))


16 posted on 07/26/2013 8:09:48 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: OneWingedShark

Excellent.


17 posted on 07/26/2013 8:11:12 AM PDT by BipolarBob (Democrats will give you the shirt off somebody elses back for a vote.)
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To: OneWingedShark

“I’d be happy if it were yearly, or twice a year.”

I still think quarterly would force action on tax reform more quickly. People would freak! They’d demand reform, and they demand the govt. cut spending radically.


18 posted on 07/26/2013 8:13:20 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: TexasCajun; Revolting cat!
TRANSPARENCY

"I'M SHOCKED!"

19 posted on 07/26/2013 8:19:19 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: Red Badger

Snowden wasn’t upset with the tax system. He was angered that Obama wasn’t following up on all of his promises to the far left fast enough.


20 posted on 07/26/2013 8:20:42 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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