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House GOP: We’ll legalize “DREAMers” if border gets secured first
Hotair ^ | 07/25/2013 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 07/25/2013 10:45:49 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

House Republicans have steered clear of the Senate’s comprehensive immigration reform bill and its approach, pledging to proceed in steps to overhauling the nation’s immigration system instead. Democrats have been using that strategy as a way to paint the GOP as callous and unconcerned (at the least) about immigrants, especially their children. National Journal reports that Eric Cantor will try to turn the tables on that argument, daring Democrats to support border security in exchange for legalization of minors:

An emerging coalition of House Republicans is arguing that young immigrants brought to the U.S. illegally as children constitute “a special protected class” that should eventually be eligible for citizenship, an approach they say combines sound policy with smart politics. …

House Majority Leader Eric Cantor, R-Va., is the driving force behind the strategy to focus on legalizing undocumented youths. According to Republican aides, passing such a bill would equip Republicans with a reasonable answer to the question of what to do with the 11 million people living in the U.S. illegally. It would also force Democrats into a political lose-lose: Either endorse a GOP proposal that legalizes so-called “Dreamers” or oppose this longtime policy goal and hold out for blanket legalization for the entire undocumented community.

As one House leadership aide framed it, “How can they say no to the kids?”

Cantor’s push, which has the blessing of Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, is also endorsed by House Judiciary Committee Chairman Bob Goodlatte, R-Va., and several influential conservatives such as Reps. Raul Labrador of Idaho and Jim Jordan of Ohio. It’s still early—Cantor and company have yet to release any legislative language—but lawmakers predict that such a measure will garner majority support in the oft-fractured House Republican Conference.

That would turn the calculus back onto the Democrats. Polls show that Americans back a path to citizenship anyway, but have much more sympathy for children whose only crime was that their parents carried them into the country. Polls have definitely shown that Americans want border security addressed as the priority in reform, even if they prefer a comprehensive approach rather than piecemeal. Such an offer would combine the most popular parts of the plans floating around Washington for most of the last decade, and force the Democrats instead of the Republicans to decide between children and their political hobby horses.

That is, it will — if Cantor and Boehner can get enough Republican votes to force Democrats to choose. So far, the strategy seems to be gaining ground, at least since this weekend. Trey Gowdy, who would normally be considered a tough vote, pointed out at a hearing this week that our law treats children as a different class in other ways, too — and that minors brought by parents “have not committed a crime,” a key position for those opposed to any form of amnesty for border violators. Ted Poe (R-TX) emphasized that children did not have the determination to act illegally, and “therefore, they should be treated in a special way.”

This all hinges on the border-security package developed by the House, of course. The Corker-Hoeven amendment turned out to be Swiss cheese in practice, and the White House made the issue all but moot by declaring that it could ignore statutes in ObamaCare that specifically had to do with mandates and triggers. Unless the House comes up with a tougher border security package and a way to ensure that the Obama administration has no choice but to fund it — perhaps by holding up the DREAMer funding until specific metrics are met, especially on a border fence — then this is probably all academic anyway. But at least Republicans may force Democrats to “say no to the kids,” and get rid of that noxious talking point for a while.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; apaulling; apaulogia; apaulogists; bordersecurity; dreamact; gop; immigration; randsconcerntrolls
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1 posted on 07/25/2013 10:45:49 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

I doubt it. They’ll knuckle under and bend over for more.


2 posted on 07/25/2013 10:47:21 AM PDT by rktman (Inergalactic background checks? King hussein you're first up.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Jimmy, broken clock, Carter,

” The USA is no longer a functioning democracy.”

Duh ! It`s a One Party State.


3 posted on 07/25/2013 10:48:01 AM PDT by Para-Ord.45 (Happily in tutelage by the reflection that they have chosen their own guardians.)
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To: SeekAndFind

They might SAY they will secure the border and they might even pass a law but the border will not be secured by this government.


4 posted on 07/25/2013 10:48:28 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: SeekAndFind

Any promise to secure the border down the road is a false promise. They will find ways to slow walk it, redefine it, forget to fund it, fund it but reassign the funds, they have a thousand ways of not doing something they don’t want to do.

Securing the border must come first or it will never come at all.

And if they would just secure the border, and slow the flood to a trickle, all the other problems become manageable. Most of them go away over a few years.

Secure the border.
Enforce the law.
Let the chips fall.
This is not complicated.


5 posted on 07/25/2013 10:51:00 AM PDT by marron
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To: SeekAndFind

30 seconds later Obama says ,”border is secured”


6 posted on 07/25/2013 10:52:26 AM PDT by molson209
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To: SeekAndFind

We don’t need to legalize anyone.

Just secure the damn border and enforce our laws.


7 posted on 07/25/2013 10:52:48 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: SeekAndFind

Unbelievable BULLSH!T!


8 posted on 07/25/2013 10:53:39 AM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Any bill, ANY BILL, even if it has one topic to build a mile high fence and a mile deep trench along the border from the Pacific Ocean to the Gulf of Mexico, will be followed by:

* A conference committee report with a Senate Trojan Horse
* A vote in the House that passes the Trojan Bill using all the democrats and at least 17 Squishy RINOs

And voila, a permanent democrat majority for generations to come.

NO BILL, NO WAY , NOT NOW, ZIP, ZILCH, NADA.....not until both chambers are controlled by real conservatives and a real conservative President is in the White House.


9 posted on 07/25/2013 10:54:26 AM PDT by Hostage (Be Breitbart!)
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To: SeekAndFind

I consider this promise no different than those made by Chuck U Schumer. No legalization - borders can be made more secure and less secure, but legalization is forever.


10 posted on 07/25/2013 10:54:31 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: Hostage; All

” NO BILL, NO WAY , NOT NOW, ZIP, ZILCH, NADA.”

Blue slip it, Boehner!


11 posted on 07/25/2013 10:59:25 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (K I L L T H E B I L L !!)
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To: Altura Ct.

Hammer: nail

The ‘pubs act like they’ve discovered the wheel: “Maybe the extremists on our side are right ... maybe we should put the horse before the cart. Maybe we should fill the mole-holes before bailing-out the flooded basement.”
But action talks and BS walks.


12 posted on 07/25/2013 11:00:49 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: tumblindice

this is all about getting to conference. The house negotiations are meaningless. Only the senate will emerge out of conference.

GOP= suckers!


13 posted on 07/25/2013 11:07:24 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: SeekAndFind
The border should be secured, whether or not any concessions are made to anyone on any other subject. It is not something that should be dependent upon anything else. But that is too obvious to even have to debate.

All other issues, concerning immigration, should be addressed, fully discussed and fully debated, before any immigration bill is seriously considered. That too is obvious. A nation is not a game of musical chairs; its whole future depends upon who sits in those chairs; who is entitled to play a role in determining that future.

Why won't the Congressional Republicans simply demand a full & complete debate on all issues--all issues! (See Immigration & The American Future.)

Do I suggest anything in the least unreasonable?

William Flax

14 posted on 07/25/2013 11:18:56 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: SeekAndFind
An emerging coalition of House Republicans is arguing that young immigrants brought to the U.S. illegally as children constitute “a special protected class” that should eventually be eligible for citizenship, an approach they say combines sound policy with smart politics.

What ever happened to ,"Equal Protection Under the Law"? Oh, sorry, I forgot this is a Marxist regime now and that musty Constitution is as obsolete as the old white slave holders that wrote and signed it.

15 posted on 07/25/2013 11:19:48 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: SeekAndFind

the GOP just needs a bill to conference. any bill will do.


16 posted on 07/25/2013 11:20:08 AM PDT by dadfly
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To: SeekAndFind
NO NEW BILLS!
17 posted on 07/25/2013 11:27:53 AM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Why not make Mexico the 58th state since most of their people are over here and they’re sending money back south. A couple years ago, I read those monies are their second highest resource with the gas and oil industry being first.


18 posted on 07/25/2013 11:29:45 AM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: onyx
NO NEW BILLS!

The bastards are going to sell us out and there's not a damn thing we can do about it to stop them...........Now anyway.

19 posted on 07/25/2013 11:33:01 AM PDT by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Ted Cruz......Nuff said.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Does chicken schlitz, dhimmi Ed Morrissey actually believe the yellow stained Repub cowards are not going to capitulate on Amnesty as soon as they can? The little pricks can’t wait to show the Senator pricks that they too can screw their voters!


20 posted on 07/25/2013 11:41:53 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: The Cajun

Well, I call the S.O.B.s every day and send my emails too.


21 posted on 07/25/2013 11:43:02 AM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: The Cajun

This is how Democrats say no to kids.

They take the House Bill and say it can be brought into conference. Obama makes a big deal about how he got the bill into conference.

The rats mark it up, it is added to a school bill which puts republicans on the defensive and bingo, 11 million Democrats.

Now add this “African American” forced busing to the mix but instead of Blacks, change it to illegals. You have just turned every white neighborhood in America into Nuevo Laredo.


22 posted on 07/25/2013 11:49:48 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (The reason we own guns is to protect ourselves from those wanting to take our guns from us.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Same old DC story.

The Democrats propose to tear down the Washington Monument, and the Republicans respond with a plan to tear down the Washington Monument in three stages.


23 posted on 07/25/2013 11:53:47 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Life. Liberty. Property. Marriage. Family. Sovereignty. Security. Borders. The Oath.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Dear Congresscritter:

No bill.

No amnesty for any invader.

No E-Verify.

Secure the border. You swore to do that when you swore to support the Constitution, which requires the United States to secure the States against invasion.

The only legislation you need to pass is for heavy prison sentences for any executive officer who fails to follow the law.


24 posted on 07/25/2013 11:58:49 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Life. Liberty. Property. Marriage. Family. Sovereignty. Security. Borders. The Oath.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Some one needs to ask these people if they think we’re idiots. As soon as the children are legalized they have the right to petition of their parents to come here legally under family unification. Amnesty is amnesty no matter what word games the pols want to play.


25 posted on 07/25/2013 12:06:51 PM PDT by SCHROLL
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To: rktman

Exactly. Lacking anything resembling a spine, the party finds it easy to bend over, or roll over and play dead. It is an organism that has no self-defense mechanism and is well on the road to extinction.


26 posted on 07/25/2013 12:28:07 PM PDT by Starboard
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To: SeekAndFind

“Secure the border first” is just a fig leaf that amnesty-supporting GOPer’s use to hide their shame from their would-be constituents. It’s a mantra that’s paid lip service to by everybody (even by Democrats) every time something like this is peddled.


27 posted on 07/25/2013 12:29:37 PM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: EternalVigilance

No amnesty for any invader.
*********
Just try invading any other country in the world and see what happens. They have no tolerance for it.


28 posted on 07/25/2013 12:29:48 PM PDT by Starboard
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To: SeekAndFind

The border will NEVER be secured so long as Democrats are in charge.. That’s them thar GOLD crossing into the U.S.. Them thar is VOTES for the Dems, by the millions!!!


29 posted on 07/25/2013 12:30:26 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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To: bgill

Might be too late for that. America is effectively already the 32nd state of the Estados Unidos Mexicanos.


30 posted on 07/25/2013 12:33:32 PM PDT by Starboard
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To: EternalVigilance

Very good analogy. Looked at another way, Democrats want to destroy the building and Republicans get to specify the which company uses the wrecking ball.


31 posted on 07/25/2013 12:38:07 PM PDT by Starboard
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To: GeronL

Even if Congress puts true border security in a bill to be signed, Zero will simply not enforce such provision(s).

HF


32 posted on 07/25/2013 12:44:38 PM PDT by holden (Alter or abolish it yet?)
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To: holden

If they refuse to enforce the laws we have now, why should we trust them to do anything a new law says?


33 posted on 07/25/2013 12:45:24 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Starboard
Just try invading any other country in the world and see what happens. They have no tolerance for it.

Mexico arrests and deports illegal immigrants from Guatemala on the spot, yet the Mexican government demands an open border with the US for their surplus population. The US government seems more than happy to oblige them.

34 posted on 07/25/2013 12:53:19 PM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: holden

Even if Congress puts true border security in a bill to be signed, Zero will simply not enforce such provision(s).
********
That is certainly true. Everybody understands this EXCEPT for Republican legislators.


35 posted on 07/25/2013 12:56:03 PM PDT by Starboard
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To: SeekAndFind

Only chance to stop the Amnesty bill is for the House not to consider any immigration related bill at all.

Michelle Bachman explained it. ANY House bill no matter if it promises all the border security in the world will be a trojan horse.NO bill at all must come out of the House because it will be merged with the Senate Amnesty and trojan horse bill. Call congress.

Tell them to stop all Amnesty or immigration bills.they are all trojan horse bills. some will promise border security that will never be enforced anyway.

Bachmann explained it . The House will write a border security bill only . then in conference the senate will add the virus and then bring it back to the house. then the conservatives won’t vote for it but democrats will all vote for it so then they only need 10% of republicans to pass Amnesty and the virus that will destroy America. so any bill at all will be added the virus . so best thing is for Boner to not let any immigration bill at all come out of the House. that is the only hope . call boner and the members of the House.

Tom Tancredo echos what Michelle Bachmann said.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3036438/posts

call congress . no bill at all from the House

and of course boner must not bring the Senate bill for the House to vote on. no senate bill, no border security bill from the House .nothing


36 posted on 07/25/2013 12:59:21 PM PDT by Democrat_media (IRS rigged election for Obama and democrats by shutting down tea party)
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To: dadfly
the GOP just needs a bill to conference. any bill will do.

Baloney! Any House version that goes to conference will be gutted and repurposed to carry the Senate and Zero's agenda.

No bill WHATSOEVER from the House!

HF

37 posted on 07/25/2013 1:06:26 PM PDT by holden (Alter or abolish it yet?)
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To: SeekAndFind

“An emerging coalition of House Republicans is arguing that young immigrants brought to the U.S. illegally as children constitute “a special protected class” that should eventually be eligible for citizenship, an approach they say combines sound policy with smart politics. …”

I’m sick of “special protected classes”. We have enough of them already in this country.


38 posted on 07/25/2013 1:08:02 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: holden

i agree, except that the agenda being served here is that of the GOP. the dems are happy bystanders hoping the GOP comes through for them. peace to you.


39 posted on 07/25/2013 1:16:39 PM PDT by dadfly
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To: SeekAndFind

Can We get amnesty for parents convicted of federal crimes who have poor innocent children?

And can those children get sweetheart deals on college loans and scholarships too?


40 posted on 07/25/2013 1:24:08 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: ek_hornbeck

Exactly. Why is it that Mexico and her citizens are afforded border security, but we are not? Guatemala should demand an open border with Mexico...see where that goes.


41 posted on 07/25/2013 1:27:57 PM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs stay silent.)
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To: SeekAndFind

If the border is secured (Ha!), why would we then have an obligation to legalize those who BROKE OUR LAWS? Bob


42 posted on 07/25/2013 1:37:44 PM PDT by alstewartfan ("The atmosphere's too cold in here to attract a butterfly like that." Al Stewart)
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To: SeekAndFind
Note to House GOP, and that is why we need a second Political party to run against the one party system in place.


43 posted on 07/25/2013 1:54:46 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: SeekAndFind

House Republicans would be smart to ignore any legislation that has to do with a pathway to citizenship, regardless of how strong the border security language is. As sure as I’m sitting here, the pathway to citizenship will happen long before the border is actually secured.

There is no way - none - that true border security will ever happen.

Democrats want the illegals here as a source of votes.
Many Republicans want the illegals here as a source of cheap labor.

Only a small number of Republicans actually want to secure the border. Given that’s the case, this idea that we’ll get border security before any “pathway to citizenship” is theater.

Don’t fall for it.


44 posted on 07/25/2013 1:59:06 PM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Government: Slimy used car salesmen writing laws forcing you to buy their cars)
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To: SeekAndFind

I hope the Repubs pull a page out of the Dem playbook by making the Dems put up the fence first, and then ignore the request for amnesty.


45 posted on 07/25/2013 1:59:42 PM PDT by VRW Conspirator (The Lefties can drink Kool-Aid; I will drink Tea.)
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To: VRW Conspirator

The security will be a 10-year project and never get done but legalization will happen immediately


46 posted on 07/25/2013 2:00:54 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Personal Responsibility
Many Republicans want the illegals here as a source of cheap labor.

I guess. But how many apple pickers, maids and gardeners do we need?

47 posted on 07/25/2013 2:02:07 PM PDT by VRW Conspirator (The Lefties can drink Kool-Aid; I will drink Tea.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The GOP has no intention of deporting the foreign nationals who are illegally squatting in the USA.

Without deportation you have defacto amnesty.

I won’t vote for politicians who will not enforce the law no matter which Party they belong to.


48 posted on 07/25/2013 2:03:28 PM PDT by Pelham (Deportation is the law. When it's not enforced you get California)
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To: VRW Conspirator
I guess. But how many apple pickers, maids and gardeners do we need?

Especially when our highest unemployment rate is among unskilled and semi-skilled workers.

49 posted on 07/25/2013 2:03:30 PM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: Pelham

and judges won’t let us cut off benefits to illegals, which would probably get most of them to pack up and leave


50 posted on 07/25/2013 2:05:20 PM PDT by GeronL
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