Skip to comments.Vote on limiting NSA phone surveillance expected Wednesday
Posted on 07/24/2013 11:17:57 AM PDT by upchuck
U.S. lawmakers may very well be one step closer to bringing across-the-board U.S. government phone surveillance to an end.
The House of Representatives is expected to vote Wednesday on an amendment to next years defense appropriations bill that would defund the National Security Agencys bulk collection of peoples phone metadata not under investigation for international terrorism or foreign intelligence.
According to the revised amendments summary available on the House Rules Committee website, the amendment bars authority for the blanket collection of records under the Patriot Act.
It further bars the NSA and other agencies from using Section 215 of the Patriot Act to collect records, including telephone call records, that pertain to persons who are not subject to an investigation under Section 215, continues the summary.
The broad scope of the NSAs surveillance, enabled by Section 215, was first revealed in early June by former NSA contractor Edward Snowden.
Since the revelations were first made public, the secretive agency has been the subject of global controversy.
The amendment was first proposed by Michigan Republican Rep. Justin Amash, a fierce civil libertarian and opponent of U.S. agencies engaged in unconstitutional warrantless surveillance.
Republican Reps. Mick Mulvaney of South Carolina and Thomas Massie of Kentucky, and Democratic Reps. John Conyers of Michigan and Jared Polis of Colorado, are also co-sponsors of the Amash amendment.
The House Rules Committee departed from normal procedure to solicit amendments in written form as part of an attempt to limit what would be attached to the bill.
Senior officials from the U.S. intelligence committee have pushed back hard against allegations that the collection program violates the Fourth Amendment of the Constitution, which guards against unreasonable searches and seizures.
Congressional leaders, concerned over the effect Amashs amendment could have on the effectiveness of the surveillance programs, delayed a vote on the defense bill until this week.
NSA director, General Keith Alexander, headed to Capitol Hill Tuesday afternoon for a members-only briefing set up by the House Intelligence Committee to lobby against Amashs amendment, reports The Hill.
U.S. activists, organized by the digital advocacy group Demand Progress, rallied online Tuesday to petition their representatives to support Amashs amendment.
Wish I had seen/posted this yesterday.
Back in the days of telegrams, NSA was told to stop collecting telegram flimsies for overseas telegrams (Western UInion had agreed to make them available, they were picked up daily then returned).
They said they did but continued the practice. So if Congress directs them to stop doing something, there is no guarantee it will happen.
“The Puzzle Palace” has lots of good NSA tales.
Shut it down!
There's a distinct difference here. NSA was told (asked) to quit collecting the flimsies. As I understand the Amash amendment, NSA wouldn't have the cash needed to collect the flimsies.
It’ll be fun watching King Hussein veto this and trying to explain why, assuming the Senate even bothers to take it up.
So Congress has control after all. Imagine that.
It’s good that a few in Congress recognize the obvious legislative responsibility, but it’s a damn shame no one else on the planet does.
It is good that the House is doing this. Of course, Harry Reid will never let it come to a vote in the Senate and the pResident will veto it if it gets to him, but the house must do it.
The House has to at least get the process going. Let Reid take responsibility for stalling it.
One of the few issues in which liberals and conservatives are aligned, but I bet it will fail anyway. The NSA will simply dig up dirt and blackmail a majority into killing it.
Note that this is not a bill. It is not standalone legislation. It is an amendment to next years defense appropriations.
Makes it much harder for Dingy to ignore it and nobama to veto it.
LOL! When all is said and done, CONgress will do nothing to limit NSA programs. They’re complicit.
This is just kabuki theater for the masses signifying nothing.
The gop wing of the uniparty wants the NSA data to provide for an expanded police state. The ‘rat wing of the uniparty wants the NSA data for blackmail. So what part of CONgress is actually going to pass this
This bill will die an unremarked death. Kabuki theater amounting to nothing.
Met Mulvaney in Indian Land right before he was elected. Glad he kicked Spratt’s ass out of office.
Exactly! The Senate can reject a spending bill, but only for so long. Money is their oxygen.
This isn't just a spending bill. It's the defense authorization for the next fiscal year. Important stuff. The perfect bill to attach this amendment to.
I understand that this has just been defeated by a 218-207 vote.
I know in advance I am going to be angry at my congresscritter...
Will be interested to see who else voted against it.
Evil wins again.
I look at it this way.......the Bible is true, and so is the book of Revelation. In order for the antichrist to take global power, there must be a global Police State, so zygodactyl is permitting this.
Just saw that. If you happen to find a Roll Call of the vote, please ping. Thanks.
That was strange.....computer went a little nuts there. Meant to post that God is permitting this.
What ELSE do you think 0bama had been using the NSA for, huh GOP??? It hasn't been for catching Boston Bombers!! It's for gathering political intelligence on his enemies as fodder for BLACKMAILING THEM, for manipulating electronic voting machine results, etc!!
|Yes Votes on Amash-Conyers|
|Amash Amodei Bachus Barton Bass Becerra Bentivolio Bishop (UT) Black Blackburn Blumenauer Bonamici Brady (PA) Braley (IA) Bridenstine Broun (GA) Buchanan Burgess Capps Capuano Cárdenas Carson (IN) Cartwright Cassidy Chabot Chaffetz Chu Cicilline Clarke Clay Cleaver Clyburn Coffman Cohen Connolly Conyers Courtney Cramer Crowley Cummings Daines Davis, Danny Davis, Rodney DeFazio DeGette DeLauro DelBene DeSantis DesJarlais Deutch Dingell Doggett Doyle Duffy Duncan (SC) Duncan (TN) Edwards Ellison Eshoo Farenthold Farr Fattah Fincher Fitzpatrick Fleischmann Fleming Fudge Gabbard Garamendi Gardner Garrett Gibson Gohmert Gosar Gowdy Graves (GA) Grayson Green, Gene Griffin (AR) Griffith (VA) Grijalva Hahn Hall Harris Hastings (FL) Holt Honda Huelskamp Huffman Huizenga (MI) Hultgren Jeffries Jenkins Johnson (OH) Jones Jordan Keating Kildee Kingston Labrador LaMalfa Lamborn Larson (CT) Lee (CA) Lewis Loebsack Lofgren Lowenthal Lujan Grisham (NM) Luján, Ben Ray (NM) Lummis Lynch Maffei Maloney, Carolyn||Marchant Massie Matsui McClintock McCollum McDermott McGovern McHenry McMorris Rodgers Meadows Mica Michaud Miller, Gary Miller, George Moore Moran Mullin Mulvaney Nadler Napolitano Neal Nolan Nugent ORourke Owens Pascrell Pastor (AZ) Pearce Perlmutter Perry Petri Pingree (ME) Pocan Poe (TX) Polis Posey Price (GA) Radel Rahall Rangel Ribble Rice (SC) Richmond Roe (TN) Rohrabacher Ross Rothfus Roybal-Allard Rush Salmon Sánchez, Linda T. Sanchez, Loretta Sanford Sarbanes Scalise Schiff Schrader Schweikert Scott (VA) Sensenbrenner Serrano Shea-Porter Sherman Smith (MO) Smith (NJ) Southerland Speier Stewart Stockman Swalwell (CA) Takano Thompson (MS) Thompson (PA) Tierney Tipton Tonko Tsongas Vela Velázquez Walz Waters Watt Waxman Weber (TX) Welch Williams Wilson (SC) Yarmuth Yoder Yoho Young (AK)|
|No Votes on Amash-Conyers|
|Aderholt Alexander Andrews Bachmann Barber Barr Barrow (GA) Benishek Bera (CA) Bilirakis Bishop (GA) Bishop (NY) Boehner Bonner Boustany Brady (TX) Brooks (AL) Brooks (IN) Brown (FL) Brownley (CA) Bucshon Butterfield Calvert Camp Cantor Capito Carney Carter Castor (FL) Castro (TX) Cole Collins (GA) Collins (NY) Conaway Cook Cooper Costa Cotton Crawford Crenshaw Cuellar Culberson Davis (CA) Delaney Denham Dent Diaz-Balart Duckworth Ellmers Engel Enyart Esty Flores Forbes Fortenberry Foster Foxx Frankel (FL) Franks (AZ) Frelinghuysen Gallego Garcia Gerlach Gibbs Gingrey (GA) Goodlatte Granger Graves (MO) Green, Al Grimm Guthrie Gutiérrez Hanabusa Hanna Harper Hartzler Hastings (WA) Heck (NV) Heck (WA) Hensarling Higgins Himes Hinojosa Holding Hoyer Hudson Hunter Hurt Israel Issa Jackson Lee Johnson (GA) Johnson, E. B. Johnson, Sam Joyce Kaptur Kelly (IL) Kelly (PA) Kennedy Kilmer Kind King (IA) King (NY) Kinzinger (IL) Kirkpatrick Kline Kuster Lance Langevin Lankford Larsen (WA) Latham Latta Levin Lipinski LoBiondo Long Lowey Lucas Luetkemeyer Maloney, Sean Marino Matheson McCarthy (CA) McCaul McIntyre McKeon McKinley McNerney Meehan Meeks Meng Messer Miller (FL) Miller (MI) Murphy (FL) Murphy (PA)||Neugebauer Noem Nunes Nunnelee Olson Palazzo Paulsen Payne Pelosi Peters (CA) Peters (MI) Peterson Pittenger Pitts Pompeo Price (NC) Quigley Reed Reichert Renacci Rigell Roby Rogers (AL) Rogers (KY) Rogers (MI) Rooney Ros-Lehtinen Roskam Royce Ruiz Runyan Ruppersberger Ryan (OH) Ryan (WI) Schakowsky Schneider Schwartz Scott, Austin Scott, David Sessions Sewell (AL) Shimkus Shuster Simpson Sinema Sires Slaughter Smith (NE) Smith (TX) Smith (WA) Stivers Stutzman Terry Thompson (CA) Thornberry Tiberi Titus Turner Upton Valadao Van Hollen Vargas Veasey Visclosky Wagner Walberg Walden Walorski Wasserman Schultz Webster (FL) Wenstrup Westmoreland Whitfield Wilson (FL) Wittman Wolf Womack Woodall Young (FL) Young (IN)|
|Not Voting (the Otherwise-Engaged)|
|Barletta Beatty Bustos Campbell Coble Herrera Beutler Horsford McCarthy (NY) Negrete McLeod Pallone Rokita Schock|
“Not enough. I’d say we need to boot out every RINO and Democrat in Congress who supports the government violating the 4th Amendment.”
Not enough. I’d say we need to boot out every RINO and Democrat in Congress who supports the government violating THE CONSTITUTION OR ANY Amendment. — Fixed that 4 ya :-) —
Thanks for the list.
Every South Carolina Rep, even our token Rat Jim Clyburn, voted Aye.
The way it’s supposed to be.