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Congress to probe lethal SEAL crash
thehill.com ^ | 07/24/13 | Bob Cusack

Posted on 07/24/2013 5:33:21 AM PDT by kimtom

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To: butterdezillion
our "inaction" is a slap.......
21 posted on 07/24/2013 6:57:26 AM PDT by kimtom (USA ; Freedom is not Free)
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To: kimtom

Don’t forget their dog.


22 posted on 07/24/2013 6:58:17 AM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

Maybe the same person who named the operation “Extortion 17”...


23 posted on 07/24/2013 7:00:25 AM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

I will start this by saying this is all my speculation based on experience and not sourced except from info in the public.

The first team that was inserted and got in trouble was sent based on Afgan intel. This group was then ambushed and the decision was made to send our best and most highly trained guys in the world on slow birds to help. WHY, I am sure they had several good teams that could have accomplished an EVAC but no they send the best of the best.
I think this was an ISI setup from the start. Someone made the deal to trade these great men to help those beasts in the ISI to save face in the wake of the Bin Laden raid( State Dept). Only speculation based on experience.

Makes me sick inside to see those pictures of these great men and know that this government did not have their back. UHHG.

I repeat only speculation to all who are reading this in DC.


24 posted on 07/24/2013 7:01:01 AM PDT by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: bgill
????????
25 posted on 07/24/2013 7:05:43 AM PDT by kimtom (USA ; Freedom is not Free)
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To: kimtom

bm


26 posted on 07/24/2013 7:30:37 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (who'll take tomorrow,$pend it all today;who can take your income & tax it all away..0'Blowfly can :)
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To: Venturer

Well can’t have anybody talking about thawing Osama out before dumping him at sea. It was a total set up.


27 posted on 07/24/2013 7:34:35 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: kimtom

I have read many stories and reports on this issue, including many conspiracy theories implying something linked to the capture of Bin Laden.

All of the conspiracy theories ignore the fact that “Seal Team Six” is not an individual unit, there is more than one “Seal Team Six” unit and multiple units can be deployed in the field at the same time; in missions unrelated to each other at all.

Conspiracy theories aside, that does not mean there are no questions that reflect on possible incompetence and/or negligence in command decisions, whether following “rules and procedures” or not. I think there are.


28 posted on 07/24/2013 7:54:44 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

UH-1s are not fast movers as they have a lower cruise speed than a CH-47F, by about 20 knots. Dispersing the force across UH-60s, if they were available, would have been a better idea but Mogadishu showed that even they are vulnerable to RPGs. Also, 3305 Hueys were lost in Vietnam.


29 posted on 07/24/2013 7:57:27 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Electorate data confirms Resolute Conservative voted for Soetoro)
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To: kimtom
Interesting fact from the article:

"All the bodies were cremated. The Pentagon has defended the cremation to the soldiers’ families, saying the bodies were badly burned.

Chaffetz, however, said he has seen a photo of a deceased SEAL that was not.

“The body I saw didn’t need to be cremated,” Chaffetz said, adding that the Department of Defense’s explanation of its failure to find the helicopter’s black box seems “awfully odd.”

The same thing happened to reporter Michael Hastings's body. It was cremated without notification to his family despite a report by an eyewitness that it wasn't badly burned at the "accident" site.

Dead men tell no tales and incinerated evidence can't be re-examined.

30 posted on 07/24/2013 8:09:53 AM PDT by Dr. Thorne ("How long, O Lord, holy and true?" - Rev. 6:10)
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To: Dr. Thorne

Sort of like Obama’s grandma...


31 posted on 07/24/2013 8:16:40 AM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: Dr. Thorne

“..Dead men tell no tales and incinerated evidence can’t be re-examined.
..”

They have learned since Vince Foster...

what evidence they can’t burn, they bulldoze; Waco, OK city, etc.


32 posted on 07/24/2013 8:31:26 AM PDT by kimtom (USA ; Freedom is not Free)
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To: A.A. Cunningham
CH-47, are large, noisy targets.

UH-60 quieter.
But either way, neither an advantage in an ambush.

I didn't think UH Hueys were used anymore (my era)

33 posted on 07/24/2013 8:37:13 AM PDT by kimtom (USA ; Freedom is not Free)
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To: Dr. Thorne

It would be worth it for a privately funded expedition to retrieve Bin Laden’s body double from the bottom of the ocean, just to watch world leaders squirm over the implications.


34 posted on 07/24/2013 9:07:24 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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There’s a facebook page dedicated to getting a congressional hearing. It is backed by the families. They’ve been relentless. “Extortion 17 Demand a Congressional Hearing.” www.facebook.com/Extortion17DemandaCongressionalHearing.


35 posted on 07/24/2013 11:13:03 AM PDT by Mel48
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Vice President Biden should be doing hard prison time for outing SEAL Team #6 as the team that got Osama. Biden’s big mouth put a target on 6’s backs. Liberals can’t keep secrets, and who the eff entrusts Afghans with classified info relating to SEAL Team 6 flights? Swapping the Afghans on board at the last few seconds is very suspicious, not to mention their name discrepancies on the flight manifest, too.


36 posted on 07/24/2013 3:09:57 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: kimtom
<7>FINALLY
37 posted on 07/26/2013 3:47:03 PM PDT by Karliner ( Jeremiah 29:11, Romans 8:28- 8:38"...this is the end of the beginning."WC)
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To: Venturer
It was a set-up. They were payback for Osama.

Exactly what I believe, sadly.

38 posted on 07/26/2013 4:18:30 PM PDT by Karliner ( Jeremiah 29:11, Romans 8:28- 8:38"...this is the end of the beginning."WC)
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To: OwenKellogg
One of them was a FReeper.

Seriously? Which one?, I never knew, my cousin is an LT SEAL...hurts all the more.

39 posted on 07/26/2013 4:21:27 PM PDT by Karliner ( Jeremiah 29:11, Romans 8:28- 8:38"...this is the end of the beginning."WC)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

I often wonder how far away was the OCEAN to dump his body?
sounds just weird


40 posted on 07/26/2013 4:28:24 PM PDT by Karliner ( Jeremiah 29:11, Romans 8:28- 8:38"...this is the end of the beginning."WC)
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