Skip to comments.NARAL Dings Liberal Reporter, David Gregory for Calling 20-Week Abortion Ban 'Reasonable'
Posted on 07/23/2013 11:26:46 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
NARAL Pro-Choice America, formerly known as the National Abortion Rights Action League, appears concerned it may be losing the battle to depict a 20-week abortion ban as "extreme." The group expressed outrage that a host on NBC, a network usually sympathetic to abortion rights advocates, implied the 20-week ban is "reasonable."
"Is it not reasonable to put late-term restrictions on abortion ... ?" David Gregory of "Meet the Press" asked Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid on July 14.
Gregory pressed Reid twice more, repeatedly using the word "reasonable," after Reid continued to dodge the question. Reid promised to "look at" the legislation, but also called it a "fringe issue."
NARAL is now asking its supporters to email NBC to express their disappointment in Gregory's use of the phrase "reasonable" to describe the 20-week abortion ban.
"Your depiction of 20-week abortion bans as 'reasonable' is misleading and is exactly how anti-choice groups want these bans to be characterized," NARAL wrote.
Most Americans believe a ban on abortions after the fetus is 20-weeks old is reasonable. A majority would even ban all second and third trimester abortions, which begin at 16 weeks.
A recent HuffPost / YouGov poll showed 59 percent of Americans support the 20-week abortion ban. Only 30 percent were opposed. A Gallup poll conducted last year showed 64 percent of Americans support banning abortions in the second trimester and 80 percent support banning them in the third trimester. A 2011 Gallup poll showed that even a majority of those who describe themselves as "pro-choice," those who NARAL ostensibly represents, believe that abortion should be illegal in the second trimester.
Restricting the abortion of fetuses even younger than 20-weeks is considered reasonable around the globe, even when looking at Western Europe, one of the most liberal areas on the planet.
According to worldabortionlaws.com, a Center for Reproductive Rights website: Austria, Belgium, France, Germany, Spain and Sweden have a 14-week ban; Italy has a 90-day ban; Portugal has a 10-week ban; Netherlands does not allow abortions after the age at which fetuses are viable outside the womb, which it calculated to be 21 weeks, but will allow abortions up to 24 weeks for medical emergencies; And Ireland has a near total ban, only allowing abortions to save the life of the mother.
NARAL seemed to suggest that what makes the 20-week ban "unreasonable" is that it would make it more difficult to abort fetuses with abnormalities, such as Down syndrome.
"Most states already have laws that address post-viability abortion," NARAL wrote. "If you were to ask a woman who received a heart-breaking diagnosis dramatically affecting her pregnancy at 20 weeks forcing her to make an extremely difficult decision, surely she would disagree that such a ban is 'reasonable.'"
When you are a liberal you are not allowed a mind of your own. You MUST go with the Borg or you will be chastised.
Iirc restrictions in the 2nd trimester and outright bans in the 3rd are permissable under Roe v. Wade.
Are the pro-choicers now anti-Roe?
Liberals believe in “reasonable” restrictions on ALL rights, except the right of a woman to murder her unborn.
We need to use the left’s own tools against them. For years, they’ve gotten away with saying they want abortion safe, legal and rare. Well, let’s make it safe by ensuring abortion providers must meet the same strict standards of other medical professionals. Regulate them right out of existence if they can’t provide high quality care.
We can also save a lot of children by enacting reasonable restrictions, like no second or third trimester abortions. The left can’t win this argument, because three months is plenty of time to make a choice. Are they seriously going to argue they need more time to kill the developing child? It’s an argument they’ll lose.
No. We can win the war against abortion by slowly tightening the screws. The left knows this, and that’s why they’re so vehemently opposed to any restrictions whatsoever. However, it’s a winning strategy.
I know some want an immediate, nationwide ban on abortion. That’s probably not politically achievable at this point. What we can do is slowly move the country to an eventual ban. Anything is good so long as it advances the cause of life.
Bottom line: let’s use the left’s own rhetoric against it. Abortion: safe, legal and rare! What’s so unreasonable about that, eh?
Blood of Tyrants: “Liberals believe in reasonable restrictions on ALL rights, except the right of a woman to murder her unborn.”
You forgot their other supreme civil right: sodomy.
And their right to force it on all of us.
Blood of Tyrants: “And their right to force it (sodomy) on all of us.”
Well, they’re very good at it. It wasn’t so long ago that they were fighting for tolerance. Then it was gay marriage. “Gay marriage” wasn’t working very well for them, so they started the “marriage equality” meme. Who could be against equality, eh? All of a sudden, “marriage equality” was all over the media, almost as if they go their marching orders at the same time.
We just have to learn to fight back using their own techniques. I’m all for tolerance for example. Not letting Christian businesses practice their beliefs? Why that’s intolerant. If we’re going to respect differences, then let’s respect differences, eh? The left can’t win these sorts of arguments if we frame them properly.
Watch what happens when you anger the wicked witches! Raging man-hating feminazis know how to get revenge.
During the Zimmerman trial, hundreds, if not thousands of black babies were aborted violating their civil rights to buy skittles and Arizona tea and wear hoodies ... but silence from the pseudo-reverends Sharpton and Jackson.
But you know, of course, that the “tolerance” they want is a one way street. We must tolerate them and their disgusting behavior, but they are under no compulsion to tolerate our beliefs.
The bigger issue is that the leadership at groups like NARAL insist that their constituents be every bit as radical as they themselves are - even when their supporters aren’t nearly as radical as the groups are.
Maybe David and Juan Williams and some of these guys will migrate over to our side if they keep getting mugged.
Reasonable is not a word that comes to mind when describing NARAL.
1. Capable of reasoning; rational: a reasonable person.
2. Governed by or being in accordance with reason or sound thinking: a reasonable solution to the problem.
3. Being within the bounds of common sense: arrive home at a reasonable hour.
4. Not excessive or extreme; fair: reasonable prices.
59 percent of Americans support the 20-week abortion ban. Only 30 percent were opposed... 64 percent of Americans support banning abortions in the second trimester and 80 percent support banning them in the third trimester... even a majority of those who describe themselves as "pro-choice," ...believe that abortion should be illegal in the second trimester... Austria, Belgium, France, Germany, Spain and Sweden have a 14-week ban; Italy has a 90-day ban; Portugal has a 10-week ban; Netherlands does not allow abortions after... 21 weeks, but will allow abortions up to 24 weeks for medical emergencies... Ireland has a near total ban... NARAL seemed to suggest that what makes the 20-week ban "unreasonable" is that it would make it more difficult to abort fetuses with abnormalities, such as Down syndrome.Down syndrome, hmm, remind anyone of any particular granddaughter?