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A stricken Allied bomber-German ace sent to shoot it down+truly-inspiring story of wartime chivalry
Daily Mail ^ | July 19, 2013

Posted on 07/20/2013 4:16:58 AM PDT by nuconvert

*Luftwaffe pilot Lt Franz Stigler refused to shoot down near-destroyed Allied bomber

*Instead he guided stricken pilot Lt Charlie Brown to safety

*A phone call led to a tearful reunion of the two World War II veterans

The lone Allied bomber was a sitting duck. Holed all over by flak and bullets and down to a single good engine, it struggled simply to stay in the air over Germany, let alone make it the 300 miles back to England.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Germany; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: ahighercall; germany; godsgravesglyphs; ltcharliebrown; ltfranzstigler; luftwaffe; military; unitedkingdom; worldwareleven; wwii

1 posted on 07/20/2013 4:16:58 AM PDT by nuconvert
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To: nuconvert

>>Somehow the pilot, 20-year-old Lt Charlie Brown, still clung to the controls — and the last vestiges of hope.<<

Wasn’t Snoopy supposed to be the one who tangles with the Red Baron, not Charlie Brown?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jlf-—13Q0g


2 posted on 07/20/2013 4:25:17 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: nuconvert

Great read thanks for posting.


3 posted on 07/20/2013 4:31:17 AM PDT by Broker (O-4 1315.)
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To: nuconvert

Excellent story. I will buy the book and look forward to the movie.


4 posted on 07/20/2013 4:34:41 AM PDT by mazda77
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To: nuconvert; Homer_J_Simpson

ping!


5 posted on 07/20/2013 4:55:18 AM PDT by texanyankee
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To: PapaBear3625

Ha


6 posted on 07/20/2013 5:10:11 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: nuconvert

Great story...has always - found in a British paper...the US news is too busy running lies and race bait for the POTUS to take the time to share something like this...


7 posted on 07/20/2013 5:10:51 AM PDT by BCW (Book - http://babylonscovertwar.com/index.html)
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8 posted on 07/20/2013 5:23:26 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Electorate data confirms Resolute Conservative voted for Soetoro)
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Thanks nuconvert. No ping, just adding to the catalog.

9 posted on 07/20/2013 5:24:50 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (McCain or Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: BCW

Actually, the book was published last year already in the US. It is available on Amazon in paper or Kindle format, the later for only $3.99.

There are more stories like this around, but some will never get published, because the players are dying out. Many people never quite get a chance to write out their life experiences. The younger generations are generally not interested until it is too late.


10 posted on 07/20/2013 5:25:34 AM PDT by docbnj
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To: docbnj

I know the men I served with - and I remember the ones that lost their lives in Iraq (17) - some stories are personal and I remember them...maybe I’ll write them one day with the photo’s I took...but with the state of mind that kids have today - most don’t have nor will have any desire to read about a war in some far flung desert hole that we called Central South...


11 posted on 07/20/2013 5:30:23 AM PDT by BCW (Book - http://babylonscovertwar.com/index.html)
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To: BCW
British papers are famous for recycling news they cull from other sources, usually long after an event happens.

CNN, USA Today, Denver Post, NY Post, NPR, et al.

12 posted on 07/20/2013 5:40:06 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Electorate data confirms Resolute Conservative voted for Soetoro)
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To: nuconvert

Great story


13 posted on 07/20/2013 5:40:28 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (To stay calm during these tumultuous times, I take Damitol. Ask your Doctor if it's right for you.)
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To: nuconvert

Wonderful story - thanks for posting.

The final lines were especially intriguing - Tom Stoppard is (IMHO) the premier contemporary playwright in the English language, a master of clever dialogue, among other things. I’m really curious to see what he’ll do with this story - it seems so different than the sort of stuff he usually does (how do you do witty dialogue with a fighter pilot alone in his cockpit or in bomber full of shot-up, desperate airmen?)


14 posted on 07/20/2013 5:43:17 AM PDT by Stosh
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To: BCW

You lost 17 troops in MND-CS? Were you in the 3rd AD?


15 posted on 07/20/2013 5:43:22 AM PDT by Justa
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To: BCW

“but with the state of mind that kids have today - most don’t have nor will have any desire to read about a war in some far flung desert hole that we called Central South...”

I loved to read the World War II novels in the public library when I was in Jr. High School. Unfortunately they have been discarded for ‘more timely’ books.

It’s time to bring back the books about real heros and reclaim history.


16 posted on 07/20/2013 5:43:34 AM PDT by stars & stripes forever
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To: nuconvert

the German military was not all behind satanic hitler


17 posted on 07/20/2013 5:54:47 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Justa

no - I was the ops chief for the US REO - I knew them - some where my team mates - others were Army assigned there or I had met with during security meetings - or with other PSD companies...but at one time or another - I joked with them - drank coffee with them - ate breakfast...the normal day...then most were killed by IED’s - an entire little bird was shot down - that had 2 of my mates on board (G-man and Rooster)...the last one - before I left was Iraqi General Qais - I watched the aftermath from him being assassinated outside the REO - he was on his way in for a security meeting...then I watched his 2nd in command (Abbas) clean house for a week...didn’t have many problems after that...


18 posted on 07/20/2013 6:02:17 AM PDT by BCW (Book - http://babylonscovertwar.com/index.html)
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To: nuconvert

bttt


19 posted on 07/20/2013 6:02:28 AM PDT by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

The Daily Mail is one of the best newspapers in the world. They cover in depth the stories that American Newspapers refuse to print. If you want to know what is really going on in America, you have to go across the pond and read it in the Daily Mail.


20 posted on 07/20/2013 6:03:42 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: stars & stripes forever

i always feel embarrassed around those guys - the ones in WWI, WWII, Korea, Vietnam...they had nothign but themselves - when we entered Iraq for the 2nd time - we had everything - so many conveniences it was awesome...we had 31 Favors Ice Cream in the middle of the Kuwaiti dessert! Sat TV, Sat commo, Blue force tracker, laptops - high speed internet,,etc...the dangers were real - -but it seemed these guys fought not knowing what was going on in the world because they din’t have instant commo - that’s a lot of stress!


21 posted on 07/20/2013 6:05:35 AM PDT by BCW (Book - http://babylonscovertwar.com/index.html)
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To: nuconvert

Nice humane story, thanks for a good positive story.
NOw back to death taxes and bad gub mint.


22 posted on 07/20/2013 6:07:27 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) ( Hey Rubio, eat pooh pal))
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To: nuconvert; naturalman1975

There *was* decency to be found among enemy soldiers.Perhaps not a lot,but some.I remember seeing a documentary about Australian POWs of the Japanese in which several Aussies told of how brutal most of their captors were but that there was an occasional guard who gave them extra food,etc.They said that by doing that those guards were placing themselves at enormous personal risk if they had been discovered by their commanders.


23 posted on 07/20/2013 6:08:48 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (If Obama Had A City It Would Look Like Detroit.)
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To: nuconvert
Somehow the pilot, 20-year-old Lt Charlie Brown, still clung to the controls — and the last vestiges of hope.

If common sense prevailed, he would order everyone to bail out and leave the B-17 Flying Fortress to its fate. He and the crew would parachute to safety, prisoners of war but alive. But that would mean leaving an unconscious man behind to die alone, and Brown refused to do that.

It is hard for me to imagine the 20 year olds of today having the courage and the selflessness to stick it out and pilot a plane full of wounded back to England under such circumstances.

Most of the young ones today simply think of themselves first last and always.

24 posted on 07/20/2013 6:37:31 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: nuconvert
Stigler saw himself as an honourable man, a knight of the skies — not an assassin. The first time he flew in combat was with a much admired officer of the old school, who told him, ‘You shoot at a machine, not a man. You score “victories”, not “kills”.

‘A man may be tempted to fight dirty to survive, but honour is everything. You follow the rules of war for you, not for your enemy. You fight by rules to keep your humanity. So you never shoot your enemy if he is floating down on a parachute. If I ever see you doing that, I will shoot you down myself.’

Good words. Good sentiments. And a nearly forgotten word; honor.

This is today it seems an archaic idea this notion of ‘honor’. I know I see precious little evidence of it in our country’s leadership. I certainly see no mention of it in most of the products of the entertainment industry. The cheap imitations of the concept you do see is typically of the Leftist variety where some evil industrialist is stopped from polluting the environment by a green warrior.

I am often tempted to despair for the survival of the Republic.

25 posted on 07/20/2013 6:49:10 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Pontiac

“Most of the young ones today simply think of themselves first last and always.”

Disgustingly true!

The pre 1960s generations were products of their upbringing. Sadly, the generation you describe today is also a product of their upbringing.

Prior generations studied real history, civics and the humanities. Today they study Kim Kardashian, Dancing with the Stars and Facebook.

We will all suffer their ignorance in myriad ways.


26 posted on 07/20/2013 6:55:20 AM PDT by Bshaw (A nefarious deceit is upon us all!)
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To: nuconvert

I’ve read of this story before. I hope they do it justice if the movie is ever completed.


27 posted on 07/20/2013 7:00:13 AM PDT by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: Pontiac

I see precious little evidence of it in those who piss on the corpses of enemy dead. And in those who condone it.


28 posted on 07/20/2013 7:19:47 AM PDT by Romulus
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To: Romulus
Well I certainly did not intend to impugn the honor of our men in uniform. These men are volunteers that defend our country against savages.

I directed my post against the young people I see around me who waste their lives away playing video games and watching TV soft porn while living in their parents houses well in to their thirties.

The very young men chronicled in this book bare no resemblance to the young men I see around be on a daily bases. I do know young men who served in Iraq and Afghanistan and I respect them greatly. One I know will never be the same because of repeated head injuries he received in Afghanistan. I grieve for his family and him for their lives can never be what they should have been.

But the youths that I speak of see these men and remark that they were stupid to go and that these heroes have wasted their lives. What I find most damning of all is that they consider themselves patriots.

29 posted on 07/20/2013 7:33:02 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: nuconvert
thanks for posting this...I got the book this morninig and have been reading it...there's a video about this crew here... On this day in history: A Higher Call
30 posted on 07/20/2013 5:00:52 PM PDT by virgil283 ( ... """" Will ye no come back again;."''''''')
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