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Zimmerman juror calls for change in self-defense laws (B-37 again)
Reuters ^ | July 17, 2013 | Daniel Trotta and Bill Cotterell

Posted on 07/17/2013 2:53:11 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

A member of the jury that found George Zimmerman not guilty in the shooting death of unarmed black teenager Trayvon Martin called for changes in Florida's self-defense law, which she said gave jurors no option but to acquit the defendant.

The juror's statement adds to pleas from around the country to change the Stand Your Ground laws that more than 30 states have adopted. In Florida, demonstrators occupied a part of the governor's office demanding that the state repeal or curtail its 2005 law.

With her identity kept secret, the juror, designated B-37, gave an interview to CNN on Monday that stirred further debate in the case that captivated the U.S. public and triggered lengthy discussions about race, guns and self-defense laws.

After receiving a torrent of criticism, including a statement to CNN from four other jurors who said she did not speak for them, the juror issued a statement further stressing her position that Florida's self-defense law, commonly known as Stand Your Ground, forced the jury to vote not guilty....

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Florida; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: b37; banglist; blackkk; blackrage; conspiracy; florida; georgezimmerman; jury; selfdefense; standyourground; trayvon; trayvonmartin; zimmerman; zimmermanjury
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Isn't she married to a lawyer? It'll be really interesting to find out who he is and the back story once their identity becomes known.
1 posted on 07/17/2013 2:53:11 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
SYG was obviously not part of the case.

She seems like an activist.

Perhaps her husband/advisors told her that not guilty was the best outcome, since it would cause unrest that could be exploited.

2 posted on 07/17/2013 2:55:16 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well, there’s always Jury Nullification.


3 posted on 07/17/2013 2:55:25 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

again, not a SYG case, a self-defense case.

Explain how retreat was possible with someone on top of you pummeling your head into the concrete?

Good God even the juror proves ignorant.


4 posted on 07/17/2013 2:55:50 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I didn’t think Stand Your Ground was even invoked in Z’s defense.


5 posted on 07/17/2013 2:55:52 PM PDT by bereanway
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Alternately, it could be her building plausible deniability for herself before her identity is eventually revealed.

The "good juror" is less likely to be harassed and targeted.

6 posted on 07/17/2013 2:56:24 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: bereanway

It wasn’t. This juror smells like a ringer. Placed there by the Obama syndicate, Angela Corey or ????


7 posted on 07/17/2013 2:56:48 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the mainland US There'd be a rifle behind each blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Considering the content of all these 'interviews', I'm beginning to suspect (again) that this lady is a plant.

OR... that this is like RACHEL/DEE DEE. The real B-37 is in seclusion, and the AIRWAVES B-37 is a government operative.

8 posted on 07/17/2013 2:56:54 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

How can she possibly base her decision on “stand your ground”.

It was a pure unadulterated case of self defense.


9 posted on 07/17/2013 2:57:11 PM PDT by traderrob6
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I bet she’s saying this so she can save face in her neighborhood.probably read all the death threats to her and the other jurors and wants to be able to go back in her neighborhood without being killed


10 posted on 07/17/2013 2:59:30 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: bereanway

Stand Your Ground was NOT even used in the Zimmerman trial, they used the classic self defense argument


11 posted on 07/17/2013 2:59:56 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Secret Agent Man
Good God even the juror proves ignorant.

You are assuming that the woman giving these interviews is the actual juror.

12 posted on 07/17/2013 3:00:07 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: UCANSEE2

That Ulsterman guy and his “insider sources” are sounding more and more credible as time goes on.


13 posted on 07/17/2013 3:01:13 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the mainland US There'd be a rifle behind each blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Stand Your Ground was not part of this case. Lay On The Ground And Get Your Head Bashed In was.


14 posted on 07/17/2013 3:02:56 PM PDT by Yo-Yo
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

She’s getting all snotty now that her book deal fell through.


15 posted on 07/17/2013 3:03:08 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: UCANSEE2

The juror can say what she wants she is blabbering on now for public consumption. If you read her quotes none of it says she would vote differently with some change of law.

She says Zimmerman acted in self defense. she gets one vote at election time like everyone else. If she wants to change the laws of self defense, good luck to her.

A world without the right to self defense would be anarchy, which is what the left wants.


16 posted on 07/17/2013 3:04:01 PM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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To: Williams

her lawyer husband probably screwed this all up. THey both saw a payday and in the end greed got them.


17 posted on 07/17/2013 3:05:52 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Now may be the time to put in place laws forbidding jurors from talking about their trials, on pain of fines and prison terms.


18 posted on 07/17/2013 3:05:56 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I wonder if this woman wants endless fame, book deals, movies, a TV series, magazine articles, speeches and a White House invitation? If so I’m sure she can be presented with a pre-drafted declaration demonstrating juror misconduct sufficient to get a new trial!


19 posted on 07/17/2013 3:07:19 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

B-37? You sunk my battle ship.


20 posted on 07/17/2013 3:09:38 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Paladin2

Which basically the prosecution was hoping for — VERY unethical on their part.

Just my opinion.


21 posted on 07/17/2013 3:09:38 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This stupid bitch is doing great harm to our legal system, as is Obama (intentionally).


22 posted on 07/17/2013 3:10:46 PM PDT by montag813 (NO AMNESTY * ENFORCE THE LAW * http://StandWithArizona.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

How to get fame, book contracts and go on talk shows and make money. Be a juror.


23 posted on 07/17/2013 3:11:58 PM PDT by I want the USA back (If I Pi$$ed off just one liberal today my mission has been accomplished.)
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To: Zhang Fei

YES....jurors, witnesses, etc....should all be forbidden from discussing the case....especially that friend of “O’s” son, who is part of the “new” generation....what a circus.


24 posted on 07/17/2013 3:12:34 PM PDT by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
My faith in American stupidity has been restored.

Over the past few years I have begun withholding empathy and sympathy from liberals I know who have been victims of criminals.

It really fries 'em, and never occurs to them that I am only returning their attitude about my right of self defense.

25 posted on 07/17/2013 3:12:35 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: longtermmemmory

Lawyers LOVE to see the SYG laws abolished. This is the ultimate pay day and one of the reasons why the law with its immunities were passed in the first place, because of shyster attorneys who no matter the circumstances see some form of payday via negligence suits everywhere. The only time about attorneys I am happy is when I see one ambulence chaser suing another over some form of malpractice.


26 posted on 07/17/2013 3:13:39 PM PDT by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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To: wideawake

I think she may have gotten significant death threats.


27 posted on 07/17/2013 3:15:01 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
SYG wasn't invoked. Besides, you can't very well retreat when flat on your back and straddled with an MMA style of punching pummeling your head into the concrete. It is defend yourself or die. Fortunately, Zim had a means of defense. He did call for help multiple times before Trayvon discovered the gun.
28 posted on 07/17/2013 3:15:02 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"She wanted to find him guilty of something but couldn't because of the law. The way the law was written, he wasn't responsible for (negligent) things that he had done leading up to that point,"

She should realize that this isn't an issue that relates to how the self-defense laws, this is because the prosecutors did not want to charge GZ with the substantially lessor charge of Negligent Homicide. Ironically, the prosecution was essentially arguing negligence, but then trying to hold GZ accountable for murder. I don't buy either argument, but it seems the jury would probably have found GZ guilty of negligent homicide if the PA had included it. IMHO, they deliberately left it out to try to force the jurors to convict on a more serious charge.
29 posted on 07/17/2013 3:15:24 PM PDT by zencycler
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To: Williams

stand your ground should be enshried in all constitutions.


30 posted on 07/17/2013 3:16:05 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

..just rooters muddying the waters keeping the masses confused. I’m sure buy now this juror knows the difference between the two


31 posted on 07/17/2013 3:16:40 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: goodnesswins

Next shoe to drop will be charges of jury misconduct so the verdict can be set aside and we can go thru this train wreck again.


32 posted on 07/17/2013 3:18:16 PM PDT by damper99
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

By the end of the week she will be appearing at a press conference with Jasmine Rand and the Scheme Teamers calling for the jury verdict to be overturned.


33 posted on 07/17/2013 3:18:18 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think a good street cleaner T-shirt is in order here...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/George-Zimmerman-You-Mad-Bro-T-Shirt-/271241471798?pt=US_Mens_Tshirts&hash=item3f27406736

BYOUsi


34 posted on 07/17/2013 3:19:06 PM PDT by soycd
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To: Mouton

the tort reform aspect should be expanded into an absolute bar to ANY civil liability. In fact a lawys should be required to sign due dilligence affidavits which make them PERSONALLY responsible if they fail to check for a not guilty.


35 posted on 07/17/2013 3:19:24 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Myrddin

Trayvon had a duty to retreat. Instead, he attacked and thus became a felonious criminal

He was not brought to trial because justice was done. He was dead


36 posted on 07/17/2013 3:19:43 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yhis person sounds like Sybil Dorsett. Who will she be next?


37 posted on 07/17/2013 3:21:00 PM PDT by MestaMachine (My caps work, You gotta earn them.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Uh...no.


38 posted on 07/17/2013 3:21:55 PM PDT by Dallas59 (Obama: The first "White Black" President.)
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To: UCANSEE2

I have no evidence to doubt it’s not.


39 posted on 07/17/2013 3:22:17 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Uncle Chip
By the end of the week she will be appearing at a press conference with Jasmine Rand and the Scheme Teamers calling for the jury verdict to be overturned.

I can’t help but think that any ongoing commentary by the jurors is going to be bad news for GZ. Eric the Red et. al. will come up with some “penumbra” in the law that says they can nullify the verdict if there’s “reason to believe” the jury was confused, coerced, blah blah blah. Crazy, sure, but the Left is out for blood. I put absolutely NOTHING past these commies. Ladies of the Jury, shut up!

31 posted on Wednesday, July 17, 2013 9:03:23 AM by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1)

Link

40 posted on 07/17/2013 3:22:29 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Let me guess...she wants the law to require confirmation from a panel of three doctors that a particular assault a person is experiencing can cause serious harm (or death) before said assaultee can defend him/herself.
41 posted on 07/17/2013 3:23:39 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Civil Servants Are No Longer Servants...Or Civil.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All
to change the Stand Your Ground laws that more than 30 states have adopted

If I understand correctly, Florida's "Stand Your Ground" law did not apply in the Zimmerman case. If such is the case, do concerned citizens possibly have the wires crossed?

42 posted on 07/17/2013 3:29:59 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

yeah, let’s pass a law against not using good judgement. And then as a test case, let’s prosecute Juror B-37 with it. She wants laws so that she can convict a man who did nothing wrong simply because she feels sorry for Travon and his parents.

Punishing an innocent man isn’t going to bring Travon back. An B-37 exemplifies poor judgement when she calls for more laws.


43 posted on 07/17/2013 3:32:51 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I guess we did get a stupid woman on the jury after all.


44 posted on 07/17/2013 3:34:25 PM PDT by ladyjane (For the first time in in a long time I am proud of my country.)
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To: damper99

Oh, please....tell me that cannot happen...please....


45 posted on 07/17/2013 3:41:23 PM PDT by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

She won’t be anonymous for long.
The notoriety will be too much .
She’ll want her 15 minutes of fame.


46 posted on 07/17/2013 3:52:17 PM PDT by Vinnie
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I guess she’d rather Zimmerman wear a diaper, mumble gibberish and drink his meals out of a sippy cup for the rest of his life?


47 posted on 07/17/2013 3:54:21 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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To: Amendment10

“Florida’s “Stand Your Ground” law did not apply in the Zimmerman case.”

Self defense doesn’t fit the agenda.


48 posted on 07/17/2013 4:00:27 PM PDT by Heart of Georgia
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Joe @tradethecycles

Trayvon’s Uncle Ronald Fulton is on the Executive Board of the NAACP Miami-Dade Chapter and Worked with the DOJ.

10:57 AM - 17 Jul 2013


49 posted on 07/17/2013 4:26:32 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: bereanway

It wasn’t. Strictly self defense.


50 posted on 07/17/2013 4:32:46 PM PDT by matt04
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