BREAKING NEWS: Nueces County sheriff confirms judge found dead at courthouse

caller,com ^ | 7/115/13 | Rhiannon Meyers, Katherine Rosenberg

[Nachum]

CORPUS CHRISTI — State District Judge Tom Greenwell was found dead from a gunshot wound Monday night in his chambers, Nueces County Sheriff Jim Kaelin confirmed.

Corpus Christi police, medics and Nueces County Sheriff's Office deputies responded about 7 p.m. to the courthouse after a report that a man was found with a gunshot wound to the head.The courthouse closed at 5 p.m.

It was unclear how a gun could have passed through security or been within the county building, equipped with security personnel and a metal detector. Attorneys, judges, and some media outlets who have courthouse identification badges typically aren't required to pass through the security checkpoint.

[Lancey Howard]

Well I hope the mobsters that run the Dem party were more subtle than to shoot him in the back of the head and throw the gun like they did back in the Clinton days.

The Chicago mob is a lot more subtle. Think how sophisticated the Capone mob has become as it evolved over the last seven decades.
Untouchable. And now they have a former bag man in the mayor's office, and a contingent of black associate dupes running the White House.
Absolutely untouchable. There are people laughing their freaking asses off at their unbelievable good fortune.

And America is swirling down the toilet, a nation in steep decline.

[Revolting cat!]

St.Peter was heard saying this evening: “Here come da Judge!”

[Paleo Conservative]

No.

[Liberty Valance]

bttt

[livius]

Thanks for posting. That was what I thought immediately, and I think it’s great that you are trying to stop paranoid rumors.

[txhurl]

Hmm

[Paleo Conservative]

BREAKING NEWS

Judge Found Dead in Nueces County Courthouse Office from Apparent Suicide.

Posted: Jul 15, 2013 7:05 PM
Updated: Jul 15, 2013 10:02 PM

http://www.kristv.com/news/judge-found-dead-in-nueces-county-courthouse-office-from-apparent-suicide-/#_

CORPUS CHRISTI -Crime scene investigators are on the scene at the Nueces County Courthouse after a cleaning crew finds a man dead from a gunshot wound on the 8th floor inside Judge Tom Greenwell's office.

Law enforcement sources confirm that the body inside the room is that of Judge Tom Greenwell, who appears to have died from a gunshot wound to the head in an apparent suicide.

The courthouse was already closed for the day when the discovery was made.

We'll have more information as it becomes available.

[phockthis]

sfl

[SeaHawkFan]

Hope he wasn’t a Judge Gary Little.

[Paleo Conservative]

What's weird is I had sent Judge Greenwell a friend request on Facebook last year prior to the elections. I got a notification over the Fourth of July weekend that he had accepted my friend request. He might have been getting all his affairs in order.

This is very sad! Many of my local political friends are rather distraught by tonight's news.

[OrangeHoof]

I would presume suicide.

A lot would depend on where the head wound was located and whether the weapon was found near the body but, yes, my first guess would be suicide because:

a) a judge would be the type of person who could hide a gun in their briefcase and not have it checked and

b) this happened in the judge's chambers where one would presume only certain people have access.

So, if it were NOT a suicide or an accident (cleaning his gun) then you'd have to conclude a murderer would need to get a gun past security and have access to the judge's chamber making for a rather small list of available suspects. Not impossible that it's a murder but more improbable. Again, the head wound and the presence of a weapon at the man's feet will tell a lot.

[Nachum]

I can confirm from high level sources that Judge Thomas Greenwell committed suicide

There has been a lot of that going around lately.

[Paleo Conservative]

Read my comment #50 I think he was putting his affairs in order in the last few days.

[OrangeHoof]

It is not uncommon for people to make the decision to end their life and, rather happily, finish all their necessary chores before pulling the trigger. Plus, it need not be a sign of guilt over some political scandal. This is how some people react to a spouse leaving, a death in the family or a terminal illness diagnosis.

I’m sure the truth will come out sooner or later. Sad for his family and friends.

[SeaHawkFan]

Maybe a few of them had some less-than-ethical dealings with the judge.

[Gargantua]

Some cop probably mistook him for a family dog...

;-\

[txhurl]

I am very glad for your upbeat Hallmark analysis.

Did you ever get a job?

[jy8z]

Maybe a few of them had some less-than-ethical dealings with the judge.

I believe the judge had too many less than ethical dealings with the public. Somebody please check his financials.

[Greysard]

On the other hand, if someone murdered him, why wouldn't someplace outdoors be way better than a courthouse with security and cameras and all?

Entirely different methods of operation. Yes, a professional hitman would spend a month just learning the judge's travel patterns. Then he'd probably just tie a grenade to his car and walk away. Another hitman would find a suitable position along the way and would make his attempt as the car stops at a red light, or when he parks at home. But if you look around most suburban residential areas, there aren't any highrises to use, and it's all hidden among trees. It's still possible to do, but it requires experience in such kind of stalking. Many, like myself, read about it and saw a few movies, but hardly anyone actually have done it.

An attack at his office is different. All that the killer needs to do is to get inside and to carry a suitable weapon with him. Getting inside a public building is not too complicated; getting a weapon carried in is also possible in many different ways. Those are separate, independent phases that have nothing to do with each other, and they can take as long as they take. The victim will be still at his office, every single day; and the killer is not risking anything as he is approaching the office, entering, and even as he is leaving - there is nothing to suspect him with. It's likely that the killer knew where security was after hours, and where it wasn't. Besides, who'd stop a plumber or a telephone repair man after hours? That's the best time for them to do their work.

One would think that a similar attack could be carried at judge's home. But that's possible only if one assumes that the doors at his home are easy to open, and that nobody else is present at his house. Both assumptions are probably false. If there are several family members inside, it's difficult to ensure that none of them calls 911 or presses a hidden alarm button (every house alarm setup has one.) A large team, with good preparation, could do it, but teams come with their own vulnerabilities. This was done by one operator.

Based on some quantity of crime fiction that I have read, the murder of the judge was done quite professionally. Nobody saw anything, and they don't have a suspect. If they check the video records they may find that someone wearing a disguise was entering and leaving the office. That disguise is gone, and the killer is out of town already (was gone, probably, before the body was found.) There is nothing to connect the killer and the judge, besides someone who had a problem and who paid some Bitcoins to someone unknown for having this problem removed.

[Paleo Conservative]

An attack at his office is different. All that the killer needs to do is to get inside and to carry a suitable weapon with him. Getting inside a public building is not too complicated; getting a weapon carried in is also possible in many different ways. Those are separate, independent phases that have nothing to do with each other, and they can take as long as they take. The victim will be still at his office, every single day; and the killer is not risking anything as he is approaching the office, entering, and even as he is leaving - there is nothing to suspect him with. It's likely that the killer knew where security was after hours, and where it wasn't. Besides, who'd stop a plumber or a telephone repair man after hours? That's the best time for them to do their work.

You've never been to that courthouse have you. Only a few people are allowed to bypass security going into the tower that contains the courtrooms and judges chambers, and they all have to get their passes renewed each year. About the only people allowed to carry guns in that part of the building are judges and bailiffs.

I'm sure Sheriff Kaelin personally investigated Judge Greenwell's chambers. If his office said Judge Greenwell committed suicide, I would believe it.