Skip to comments.ELCA Has Biggest Split in American Church History
Posted on 07/13/2013 12:19:30 PM PDT by rhema
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Still rears it's ugly little head...
I'm (formerly) gay. Now I'm just an asexual or something.
I know ELCA formed from LCA, ALC and AELC. Why would churches from the LCA have been treated differently from the others, though?
>>but that doesnt mean that we think hes RIGHT about it.
1st, it’s pretty laughable that you, a “former Eunuch”, presume to speak for “we” the LCMS.
2nd, where’s the clarifying position paper?
Not on the LCMS.org site.
Put up the position paper so folks WORKING in the field don’t get blind-sided by the issue. Otherwise, buzz off ya flatulent gas bag.
Dismissal by Synod Council was part of the disassociation procedure in the constitutions of the LCA.
The ELCA's logic was that congregations which were part of that entity at its beginning would follow the procedures of their former church bodies.
The CNCL (Committee for a New Lutheran Church) really liked the most restrictive procedure used by the LCA; hence that became the procedure for congregations organized post 1988
The CNLC knew that imposing this on all congregations would never fly with the ALC and AELC, hence the double standard.
"You don't need to be consistent: You need to justify your inconsistencies".
Yes, yes, read something off of my page that I posted TEN YEARS AGO and use that as an argument against me. What next, rooting up a baby picture where I’m naked and claim that I’m obviously debauched because I’m flailing around without my drawers on?
Look, I’d rather not try to pick a fight with you. Despite all our arguments during the election season, I still think well of you.
I STILL do not understand why you’re so angry. And why you’ve gone and resorted to even more personal attacks than I leveled at you. Including a rather laughable attempt to bring up a ten-year-old self-description from my teenage self. I should probably change that, but if I did right now, you’d accuse me of having something to hide.
So, how about you try to explain to me how what Luther wrote in the distant past when he was angry has an effect on what the LCMS believes TODAY? Not what the Nazis did (I’ll see your Krystallnacht and raise you one Dietrich Bonhoeffer), but what your problem is NOW.
I have not met a single Lutheran who is an anti-Semite. I’ve not seen a single Missouri Synod church that reads TJaTL and teaches it like it’s the Gospel.
So what’s with you? You obviously hate the Missouri Synod for some reason OTHER than ‘no published paper.’
Why are you mad at ME?
It's on YOUR page NOW!
If you don't like the results of people reading it; then simply remove it!
You'd win. I'm old and feeble...
(BTW... I wasn't trying to fight, but to illustrate.)
While we are fussing amoungst ourselves...
In that case, I apologize. I do have a bad habit of shooting my ‘mouth’ off without thinking sometimes.
LCMS has failed to post a position paper on the subject:
Likely because it isn't important. They haven't published a position paper on whether the earth is flat or any number of other inane subjects, so if you have a point, make it.
One thing it means is that you search poorly on the Net. Could be your rage, but a quick search of the LCMS.org website reveals this:
Pg 13 Luthers Anti-semitism
Addressed in 1983, so perhaps the 30 yeas ago answer doesn't satisfy you but then, who's fault is that?
It is telling that a group wanting to bring back the LCMS of their grandfathers is looking at the splinter in the eye of the ELCA when they should be looking at log in their own eyes and how LCMS continues to shrink year after year.
Not in altar fellowship with LCMS, but affiliated with the apostate ELCA.
What did the BLC say in 1938 when Kristallnacht happened?
[expression of] anti-Judaism in Lutheran theology.
And what part of Lutheran 'theology' is anti-Judaism today, or any day for that matter?
Let’s start over!
Sounds like a plan to me. Thanks.
*Declares everything water under the bridge*
>>One thing it means is that you search poorly on the Net.
Nope, I search just fine. The work in question is not referenced by name anywhere on LCMS.org
I’d like to give you a direct link, but the directions above take you to the pdf in question, not that hard.
The association of Mein Kampf with Lutheranism isn’t important.
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