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1 posted on 07/12/2013 9:03:57 PM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: Altura Ct.

No different from the Border Patrol or the military in Afghanistan or Iraq.


2 posted on 07/12/2013 9:06:41 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Altura Ct.
I'm all for this.

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

- Forth amendment to the Constitution

4 posted on 07/12/2013 9:16:51 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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I don’t give a damn if it “neuters” police to get rid of “stop n frisk”

NOBODY has the right to detain and put their hands on me if I did nothing illegal. I don’t care if I look like the biggest thug in the world.

It’s a blatant example of giving up everyone’s freedom for supposed “safety”. If the idiots keep doing this, a day will come when government itself is a danger to our safety. What then?


5 posted on 07/12/2013 9:16:56 PM PDT by varyouga
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To: Altura Ct.

FK them.

4th amendment...

They don’t have supra rights to search anyone at will.


6 posted on 07/12/2013 9:18:05 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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Stop and frisk is tyranny, regardless of any racial component. The idea that anyone, especially those who claim to love freedom, would be ok with the police systematically stopping people on the street and searching them, is sickening.


7 posted on 07/12/2013 9:19:19 PM PDT by TeachableMoment
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To: Altura Ct.

But keep firing at dogs at will.


9 posted on 07/12/2013 9:26:06 PM PDT by deadrock (I am someone else.)
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God help us! I used to joke that the inmates were in charge of the asylum.

Reality is much worse. Those who are putatively charged to protect the common citizen are now being mandated to assist the criminal element in its depredations against the law-abiding populace.

In the City of Baltimore, Maryland, it was recently learned that the prison guards were complicit in, if not sponsoring, all manner of outrages by the inmate population. The inmates are not just in charge of the asylum, they are in charge of the Nation!

It's not about "profiling!" It's not about "race" - it's not about "ethnicity!" Those are the canards tossed out by the Left to distract from the actual question.

It's about our way of life, our Freedoms, and what's left of Western Civilization.

FREEDOM!!!



"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

10 posted on 07/12/2013 9:26:16 PM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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Profiling, ie fitting the description of the perp.


11 posted on 07/12/2013 9:28:19 PM PDT by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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I hope that crime in New York shoots right throught he stratosphere. This is the New York City Democrat’s equivalent to “sequestration”, “furloughs”, and “reparations”.

You can’t fix STUPID but you can elect them to the City Council.

Way to go New York. You’re trying to beat out Chicago, Baltimore, E. St. Louis and Detroit as the crime capitals of America, and you just might succeed.

What a bunch of fucking leftist nuts!

Won’t be back to visit unless packin’. Fortunately my retired NYPD host does.


12 posted on 07/12/2013 9:29:04 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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I love this from a Dem:

Councilman Peter Vallone (D-Queens) said the bill “will give every person subject to any police policy an automatic right to sue without any allegation of wrongdoing.”
“It will achieve the ultimate goal of this bill, to put judges in charge of the NYPD,” he said. “When the courts are in charge, we will become Chicago, we will become Detroit. Crime will soar, murder will rise, children will die.”

Besides, with the new NY gun laws wtf are they frisking for anyways?
Crime has been repealed in NY.
Hell, didnt you see that guy was arrested in NYC for having an air gun that shot plastic pellets?

FU Bloomberg.

13 posted on 07/12/2013 9:32:48 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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Stop and frisk is fascist bs.


15 posted on 07/12/2013 9:42:14 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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Thank you for referencing that article Altura Ct.. Just in case any FR readers aren't aware of the following concerning executive orders, people may find the following information about such orders interesting.

First, not only is "executive order" not a constitutional term, but the Founding States made the very first numbered clauses in the Constitution, Sections 1-3 of Article I, evidently a good place to hide them from the Oval Office, to clarify that all legislative powers of the federal government are vested in the elected members of Congress, not in the executive or judicial branches of the federal government.

In fact, undoubtedly based on the clauses referenced above, the Supreme Court has already clarified in Youngstown Sheet & Tube Co. v. Sawyer that executive orders do not have the force of law unless legislatively supported by Congress. And given that Congress is now diivided, Democrats controlling the Senate and Republicans controlling the House of Representatives, Obama simply doesn't have the legislative support of Congress to make his executive orders do anything.

So what Obama is actually doing with his executive orders is to try to make himself look like a king making edicts to impress low-information voters. Sadly, when Obama writes "JUMP!" on an executive order, Constitution-ignorant voters, which evidently includes medical personnel, unthinkingly ask "how high?"

20 posted on 07/12/2013 9:53:59 PM PDT by Amendment10
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Who loses in this? the very people who are complaining, the residence of the drug infested housing projects! Enjoy a@@clowns you just cut off your nose inspite of your face. They complain because the cops are interupting thier business ventures, you know they are entreprenuers!


32 posted on 07/13/2013 4:45:49 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (Yesterdays conspiracies are todays truths)
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Ultimately this is about ‘disparate impact’ of ‘equal outcomes’. In other words this is about race.


33 posted on 07/13/2013 5:51:15 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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