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3 Facts That Prove George Zimmerman is Innocent
http://www.capitalisminstitute.org ^ | July 12, 2013

Posted on 07/12/2013 8:13:28 PM PDT by NKP_Vet

The idea that there is enough evidence to convict George Zimmerman of murder or manslaughter for the shooting of Trayvon Martin is absolutely absurd. It was never even questionable on the basis of actual evidence. There was no point in which we had evidence that Zimmerman shot him in any other context besides self defense.

On Zimmerman’s side are eyewitnesses, bloody cuts to the back of his head, a broken nose, and nothing to suggest otherwise. The media created a hysteria which is starting to fade. Even anti-Zimmerman commentators are starting to admit he is innocent.

The media, however, thrives on racial resentment. The political left uses it to create divide so that minorities will continue to vote Democrat and blindly support new welfare policies. Because of this, they need to make this a murder story — rather than a self-defense story. Let’s look at the facts below:

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1 posted on 07/12/2013 8:13:28 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: NKP_Vet

Facts don’t matter. The jury is 6 women!

Emotions matter.


2 posted on 07/12/2013 8:16:33 PM PDT by occamrzr06
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To: occamrzr06

Very true, although I thought the defense had a few emotional moments:

GZ’s parents
The woman that had a home intruder


3 posted on 07/12/2013 8:23:50 PM PDT by MNDude (Sorry for typos. Probably written on a smartphone, and I have big clumsy fingers.)
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To: occamrzr06

Indeed, but the Title is “Three FACTS”


4 posted on 07/12/2013 8:26:01 PM PDT by occamrzr06
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To: NKP_Vet

I didn’t follow all of the trial but surely there was evidence the shot was at close range. That and the trajectory of the bullet should have backed up GZs account. If he was out “to get” Thugvon, wouldnt he have shot at a safer range and with a different trajectory as a result?

What a crock this entire episode has been.


5 posted on 07/12/2013 8:27:17 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat
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To: occamrzr06
Facts don’t matter. The jury is 6 women!

Emotions matter.

Wouldn't matter if there were a few metrosexual "males" in the mix, governing by "feelings" is all part of the Wussification of America.

6 posted on 07/12/2013 8:30:49 PM PDT by lightman (Prosecute the heresies; pity the heretics.)
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To: NKP_Vet
Other points I was waiting for but didn't get was, Zimmerman didn't know he was 17 years old when he was getting his ass whipped. He didn't know he wasn't armed either. I would have driven home the point that Martin started the fight when he said "What's your problem?" All he had to do was have a conversation instead of breaking Zimmerman's nose. He had 4 minutes to go home and I'm glad the lawyer made that point. Martin was on the phone with his squeeze and supposedly was afraid of Zimmerman. Why didn't he hang up and call 911 himself? When you break someone's nose, you have lost your right to bitch about what happens next.

I'm 62 and overweight. I have diabetes and heart trouble. My knees and back are shot. If someone threatens me or my family, I'm not interested in a "fair" fight. I'm going to win the best way I can. Be prepared for lead. I don't know why I would expect Zimmerman to be different than me.

We have a saying in Texas. An armed society is a polite society. Watch who you knock in the head and if you take a shot at the king, you better kill him. Coming in second is a bitch.

7 posted on 07/12/2013 8:31:28 PM PDT by chuckles
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To: NKP_Vet

The problem has been the focus on irrelevant arguments – some of which are actually unsupported by the evidence.
1. ‘GZ racially profiled TM’ There is no evidence of this.
2. ‘GZ disobeyed an order by the police’ * The civilian dispatcher, Sean Noffke, testified that he did not give GZ an order and, in fact, he, like his fellow dispatchers, are trained not make comments that sound like commands. * Noffke also testified under cross that, as a result of his asking GZ which way TM was going, GZ could have reasonably interpreted this as being asked to follow Martin. * It is also not a crime in Florida to disregard a comment made by a civilian dispatcher
3. ‘GZ got out of his car’ Not a crime on public property and not negligent either.
4. ‘GZ followed TM’ Again, anyone can follow anyone on a public street unless the followee has obtained a restraining order against the follower and even there, the RS only places time, place, and manner restrictions on the person enjoined.
5. ‘GZ wasn’t really injured’ * Under Florida’s self-defence laws, one doesn’t have to be injured AT ALL to use deadly force * No one is required to refrain from defending himself while another is engaged in or attempting to commit a felony
6. ‘TM is dead through no fault of his own’ * If you believe that TM assaulted GZ, then he IS dead as a result of his own actions
7. ‘GZ could have left’ * Under Florida law, there is not a duty to withdraw rather than use deadly force * TM was straddling GZ so how the latter was supposed to leave the scene is unanswered
8. ‘GZ was armed and TM wasn’t’ * One’s fists can be considered weapons and can result in severe bodily harm or death
* GZ was legally carrying a weapon * There is no requirement under the law that the same weapon be used by the assailant * A homeowner can kill an intruder whether or not he has been threatened * Those that attack cannot feign surprise if they are met with superior firepower
9. ‘Stand Your Ground!’ * SYG is NOT at issue in this trial. * The defence is a classic self-defence case
10. ‘Black men NEVER get to use SYG!’ * Wrong http://tinyurl.com/nboht35
11. ‘GZ is a man and TM was a boy!’ * As if ‘boys’ don’t commit murder, rape, and assault everyday in this country.


8 posted on 07/12/2013 8:31:38 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's next run. What'll you do?)
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To: occamrzr06

The prosecutor asked them to rule on emotion. Then the judge told them to rule on the evidence. Let’s see if they’re smart enough to tell the difference. I certainly hope so.


9 posted on 07/12/2013 8:31:56 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (If you vote for evil because you can't see evil, you ARE evil!)
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To: A_Former_Democrat

This man has been on top of the trial from day one: He explains the jury instructions given to the Zimmerman jury.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdKgPoGldp4&feature=c4-overview&list=UUvreJYGIC45aqkYOzmvShVQ


10 posted on 07/12/2013 8:33:54 PM PDT by Bronzy
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To: NKP_Vet
On Zimmerman’s side are eyewitnesses..

On Martin's side are the fact that his DC "dad" has already declared GZ to be guilty,the rioters that will gather nationwide,egged on by the DC "dad's" hand picked stooge at DOJ...

11 posted on 07/12/2013 8:36:31 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Civil Servants Are No Longer Servants...Or Civil.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yet the prosecutor’s closing argument seemed to ask the jury to totally ignore all the facts you just posted. Plus, they lied like hell concerning the facts just posted.

And the dumbest thing the prosecutor said was Zimmerman should have asked Martin to wait until the cops arrive. Yet during the trial he pointed out that neighborhood watch people are not supposed to even talk to the suspect.


12 posted on 07/12/2013 8:36:38 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (If you vote for evil because you can't see evil, you ARE evil!)
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To: VerySadAmerican

Of course I posted that from yesterday’s fiasco. It was not today’s instructions. Sorry.


13 posted on 07/12/2013 8:37:27 PM PDT by Bronzy
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To: occamrzr06

I’m a woman and a mother of 4. My youngest is a 26 year old son. I remember well when he was 17. I can feel for his mother. If that was my son, no matter how much trouble he had been in, I would be devastated by his death and would feel great ill-will towards GZ. And to watch his pictures of him dead laying on the ground, and then the final clothes he was wearing with a bullet hole and blood on it would be more than I could take.

BUT, being a mother does not change my opinion of the outcome of this trial. Just the facts, ma’am. Going just by the facts, I could not find GZ guilty of anything.


14 posted on 07/12/2013 8:41:35 PM PDT by murron (Proud Mom of a Marine Vet)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Beautiful and succinct statement of the misconceptions created by our enemies in the media. Remarkable how people buy arguments like that, so long as they saw it on tv. Reminds me of the manipulation going on during the Clinton impeachment.


15 posted on 07/12/2013 8:41:39 PM PDT by Defiant (In the next rebellion, the rebels will be the ones carrying the American flag.)
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To: occamrzr06

<>Facts don’t matter. The jury is 6 women! Emotions matter.<>

The author of this article is not a woman.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/3042350/posts?page=1#1


16 posted on 07/12/2013 8:42:26 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: A_Former_Democrat

The prosecution’s spin was that Trayvon saw the gun, screamed (they did maintain that he was the screamer), and started to back off of Z, whereupon he was immediately shot.


17 posted on 07/12/2013 8:45:30 PM PDT by luvbach1 (We are finished.)
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To: NKP_Vet
Facts are not what's important.

They don't want the prosecution to have low self-esteem for performing so terribly, so they will give them manslaughter as a consolation prize.

18 posted on 07/12/2013 8:46:15 PM PDT by Jess Kitting
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To: NKP_Vet

We’ve got some radio personalities here on the Left Coast that can’t stand it that there isn’t enough evidence to take Zimmerman down, so they belittle everything they can think of about him.

The guy was attacked, was in fear of his life, and he shot and killed the assailant. Where did he go wrong?

Getting out of your car and walking around isn’t a capital offense Trayvon goombas. If it was, then walking around casing homes in the night-time would also be a capital offense, and that’s what Trayvon seemed to be doing.

Sadly, for once, a young Black man that decided to thump a guy for just being there, got what most normal people who were armed would do if attacked like that. Who knew?

This happens a few more times, and perhaps some people will be less inclined to go gangsta on a whim.


19 posted on 07/12/2013 8:46:53 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Breaking News: Hillary not running in 2016. Brain tumor found during recent colonoscopy...)
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To: NKP_Vet

Defense did not make this point.

Murder is an empty magazine. Zimmerman only fired one round.


20 posted on 07/12/2013 8:48:17 PM PDT by DonnerT (After all is said and done, it is God's Will that will be done.)
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To: NKP_Vet

What is the difference Fear is Fear wither you are being water boarded or pound and ground on cement!

The Progressives are hypocrites they are against water boarding for the terrorist but it is ok if a citizen head to be pound & ground on cement.

Fear of the unknown is still fearing for ones life


21 posted on 07/12/2013 8:49:31 PM PDT by restornu (Love One Another)
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To: Defiant

I agree with you, and speaking of Clinton, I heard today that Hillary would beat any Republican if the 2016 election were held now. The amount of STUPIDITY in this country is unfathomable. Let’s hope those jurors get it right!!!


22 posted on 07/12/2013 8:51:39 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: occamrzr06
Facts don’t matter.

This is true. If he is found not guilty, the scum bag Feds will charge him with something. He will be sacrificed on the altar of PC. The thing we all need to be scared of, is that any of us can be rail roaded at any time, for political reasons, or whatever, and no one will ever rescue anyone of us.

23 posted on 07/12/2013 9:08:49 PM PDT by Mark17 (My body is in California, but my heart is in the Philippines.)
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To: VerySadAmerican

Hannity had Juan Williams on his radio program yesterday. I can’t stand to hear that shill talk. I wanted to call the program and scream and tell him to shut his stupid, ignorant liberal mouth. Why does Hannity always have to have one conservative and one lib on his radio program? Mark only has guests on with conservative points of view. Then I get sick to my stomach when Sean tells them they are great Americans! Makes me want to puke because these “great Americans” are destroying this country.


24 posted on 07/12/2013 9:19:00 PM PDT by Catsrus (`)
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To: Catsrus

williams was on the panel on the Bret Beir show today, at the end.

He said that Incompetano had done a great job because we haven’t had any terrorist attacks.

Someone said Ft. hood and I shouted Boston Marathon as they changed subjects.


25 posted on 07/12/2013 9:22:17 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: luvbach1

[The prosecution’s spin was that Trayvon saw the gun, screamed (they did maintain that he was the screamer), and started to back off of Z, whereupon he was immediately shot.]
But according to the only eyewitness the man on the bottom who he identified as Zimmerman was the one yelling HELP!
To think otherwise one has to turn reality on its ass and say that the man on top who is beating the shit out of the man on the bottom and therefor easily winning the fight is the one yelling HELP.......and not the one on the bottom who is getting the burritos kicked out of him. Sure makes sense, doesn’t it: the victor in the fight yells for help and the loser remains silent.


26 posted on 07/12/2013 9:22:35 PM PDT by Islander2
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Notwithstanding the politics, if GZ were convicted, could Florida Governor Rick Scott immediately pardon him? Does he have that executive power?

If I were governor, knowing the facts, I would pardon GZ at my earliest opportunity in the event of an absolutely Tyrannical conviction. Certainly after the appeals process had been tried first. I wouldn't even care if I was impeached or removed from office as a result. This case is that important with respect to self-defense jurisprudence. The Republic could stand or fall based on this trial. In the face of such a gross miscarriage of Justice, I'd be willing to stand or fall, as the state's Chief Executive, on the principle of self-defense for a Free Individual Lawfully Carrying in the State.

27 posted on 07/12/2013 9:37:54 PM PDT by sargon (I don't like the sound of these here Boncentration Bamps!)
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To: occamrzr06
Facts don’t matter. The jury is 6 women! Emotions matter.

Yep...and the corrupt prosecution douchebags brought emotion in spades to their disgraceful, lie-filled closing arguments; whereas O'Mara seemed a bit over-analytical to me. Given that stupid white women elected Obama twice, I am hopeful, but nervous.

28 posted on 07/12/2013 9:38:50 PM PDT by montag813 (NO AMNESTY * ENFORCE THE LAW * http://StandWithArizona.com)
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To: murron
I’m a woman and a mother of 4. My youngest is a 26 year old son. I remember well when he was 17. I can feel for his mother. If that was my son, no matter how much trouble he had been in, I would be devastated by his death and would feel great ill-will towards GZ. And to watch his pictures of him dead laying on the ground, and then the final clothes he was wearing with a bullet hole and blood on it would be more than I could take.

BUT, being a mother does not change my opinion of the outcome of this trial. Just the facts, ma’am. Going just by the facts, I could not find GZ guilty of anything.

Well said. And it needed to be said.

29 posted on 07/12/2013 9:39:27 PM PDT by sargon (I don't like the sound of these here Boncentration Bamps!)
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To: sargon
Governor Scott (R-FL) is the one who ordered Angela Corey, a Republican, to appoint a special prosecutor and convene a grand jury. Why would he pardon Mr. Zimmerman after acceding to the wishes of the race pimps?
30 posted on 07/12/2013 9:44:18 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's next run. What'll you do?)
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To: occamrzr06

Their dependence on society matters.


31 posted on 07/12/2013 9:57:12 PM PDT by virgin (Don't screw with me.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Governor Scott (R-FL) is the one who ordered Angela Corey, a Republican, to appoint a special prosecutor and convene a grand jury. Why would he pardon Mr. Zimmerman after acceding to the wishes of the race pimps?

I'll tell you why. He's pandering to them and calling their bluff at the same time. He expects an acquittal. Anybody who knows anything about American History knows GZ should be acquitted.

If he's not acquitted, the Governor could take executive action at some point. He has that Power, doesn't he? The Pardon power could not be more appropriate than in bizarro world case such as this.

32 posted on 07/12/2013 10:13:33 PM PDT by sargon (I don't like the sound of these here Boncentration Bamps!)
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To: Catsrus

I can’t stand Hannity and haven’t listened to him in a long time. Well, let me say that about once a month, if I’m in the car, I’ll turn his show on for about 2 minutes to remind myself why I don’t like him. He must really love his voice. I’ve thought about timing one hour to see how much he talks and how much he lets the caller talk. But I can’t get past that 2 minutes.


33 posted on 07/12/2013 10:20:01 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (If you vote for evil because you can't see evil, you ARE evil!)
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To: murron; occamrzr06
I’m a woman and a mother of 4. My youngest is a 26 year old son. I remember well when he was 17. I can feel for his mother. If that was my son, no matter how much trouble he had been in, I would be devastated by his death and would feel great ill-will towards GZ. And to watch his pictures of him dead laying on the ground, and then the final clothes he was wearing with a bullet hole and blood on it would be more than I could take.

And then...imagine what it would be like if it was your stepson, that you had raised for 14 years, and the 'state' would not allow you near the trial, or to testify, and the media wouldn't bother to even interview you. Then, the biological mother comes crawling out of the woodwork to scam as much money out of your step son's death as she can.

Then, as if it couldn't get much worse, your husband, who ran off just a few weeks before your step son's death to live with a married woman, dumps her too, just to get SOME DAT MONEY.

34 posted on 07/12/2013 10:22:17 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: Islander2; luvbach1
one has to turn reality on its ass

Unfortunately, that 'change' was made permanently, several years ago.

35 posted on 07/12/2013 10:26:16 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: NKP_Vet

He should never have been charged.

He was charged only after Eric Holder sent DOJ instigators to Sanford to whip up mobs calling for his arrest.

The whole thing is a con job and show trial, and arguing about innocence or guilt is a trap.

The entire show should never have taken place.


36 posted on 07/12/2013 10:27:14 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: montag813

i wonder what the jurist notes look like.
teayvon on bottom. nix that
trayvon standing. nix that.
trayvon on top but trying to get off

2nd degree murder. nix that
manslaughter.

they must see the prosecuter changing their theories time over time

i can hope.


37 posted on 07/13/2013 12:54:05 AM PDT by Donnafrflorida (Thru HIM all things are possible.)
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To: occamrzr06

Your FReeper name is double edged here.. I hope and pray the judgment comes out the way it should ( in a real and just world)...

I need to get away from these Zim threads until after verdict.. hoping for best, but preparing for worst :/


38 posted on 07/13/2013 3:04:57 AM PDT by Bikkuri (Molon Labe)
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To: lightman

....Or REAL men for a change.


39 posted on 07/13/2013 4:12:56 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: NKP_Vet

The question I have is, why 6 juriors and NOT 12 juriors to begin with?


40 posted on 07/13/2013 4:13:39 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Biggirl

If you find out, please let me know too


41 posted on 07/13/2013 4:22:29 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Who will shoot Liberty Valence?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Racial profiling is a method for discriminating, for decision making, for aiding choices.

Profiling is not a crime. Profiling is a useful tool.


42 posted on 07/13/2013 4:25:40 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Who will shoot Liberty Valence?)
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To: Catsrus
Then I get sick to my stomach when Sean tells them they are great Americans

I stopped watching Hannity when he would have $harpton on his show and introduce him as "My very good friend, the rev. Al Sharpton".

Disgusting.

43 posted on 07/13/2013 4:43:22 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (_.. ._. .. _. _._ __ ___ ._. . ___ ..._ ._ ._.. _ .. _. .)
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To: Biggirl; bert

It is a non capital case and states make their own laws, in Fla. it is a six person jury when the death penalty is not on the table.


44 posted on 07/13/2013 4:53:22 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (_.. ._. .. _. _._ __ ___ ._. . ___ ..._ ._ ._.. _ .. _. .)
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To: luvbach1

>> The prosecution’s spin was that Trayvon saw the gun, screamed (they did maintain that he was the screamer), and started to back off of Z, whereupon he was immediately shot.

Yeah, that’s one of about six mutually exclusive “theories” they have offered, without evidence to prove ANY of them.

This trial was criminal law turned on its head. The defense normally isn’t required to prove ANYTHING, merely to introduce reasonable doubt into what the prosecution is seeking to prove.

Yet all the prosecution could do is throw this theory, and that factoid, and this and that emotional accusation, into an unconnected framework to introduce “reasonable doubt” into the evidentary PROOF OF INNOCENCE the defense built — primarily from the prosecution’s own witnessess.

It is a total travesty of justice that this case ever went to trial. And another travesty that, after going to trial and the prosecution failing to prove a damn thing during their presentation, that the judge denied request to issue a Verdict of Acquittal.


45 posted on 07/13/2013 4:53:44 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: sargon

>> If I were governor, knowing the facts, I would pardon GZ at my earliest opportunity in the event of an absolutely Tyrannical conviction.

Fat chance.

Republicans Rick Scott and Pam Bondi are part of the Florida false prosecution railroad themselves. Both were instrumental in the decision to railroad a man for political cover and to ingratiate them with blacks, rather than letting the local boots on the ground make the call. If it was up to local LEO, Zimmerman would never have been charged; they saw immediately that it was self defense.


46 posted on 07/13/2013 4:58:03 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: Islander2

Hopefully these jurors are reading where George told the cops he was screaming and hollering. That’s one of the first things he told them. Then when told that the entire assault was on film, he said he sure hoped so. Does this sound like a guilty man??????????? Good lord.


47 posted on 07/13/2013 5:26:22 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: Biggirl

Six jurors is just the law in Florida. The less jurors the less chance of a hung jury. The deck was stacked against Zimmerman when no men were allowed to be on the jury. The one token alternate would have never been chosen unless the other women alternates had died. They put 6 women on the jury, and no men, because they automatically figured that women didn’t have as much sense about self-defense as a man does. Six women, with five of them having a bunch of kids. To say the jury is exactly what the State wanted is an understatement. And if they show courage and tell the Obama race baiters to go to hell they are not convicting an innocent man, Federal charges will be filed by Eric Holder on Zimmerman for violating the civil rights of Traythug. He will then be tried again before an all black jury.


48 posted on 07/13/2013 5:50:28 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: Graybeard58

I did my research this morning before I had to step out and the answer is the same, based on a state court ruling.


49 posted on 07/13/2013 7:05:25 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Graybeard58

Before I had to step out early this morning, to answer the question, I did some internet search and found some links and it says it is legit to have half the number of jurors, 6, instead of the tradional 12.

A starting link:

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57590779-504083/george-zimmerman-trial-why-are-only-six-jurors-weighing-murder-suspects-fate/


50 posted on 07/13/2013 7:31:19 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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