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UK Will Try To Boost F-35B Landing Weight
AIN Online ^ | July 5, 2013 | Chris Pocock

Posted on 07/10/2013 3:43:57 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

UK Will Try To Boost F-35B Landing Weight

July 5, 2013, 12:50 PM

Senior British military officials confirmed that the UK will conduct shipboard rolling vertical landing (SRVL) trials on the F-35B version of the Lockheed Martin Lightning II stealth combat jet. The SRVL technique would allow the aircraft to land at higher weights than is currently possible in the VTOL mode. The F-35B has faced weight problems, leading to concerns that it could not “bring back” to its aircraft carrier a useful weapons load that has not been expended in combat. The British have done nearly all the previous research and simulation on SRVLs.

The officials said they are satisfied that the F-35B could bring back the internal weapons load that is initially planned, comprising–in the UK case–two AMRAAM air-air missiles and two Paveway IV smart bombs weighing some 5,000 pounds. But, one added, when high temperature and/or low pressure conditions prevail–such as in the Gulf of Oman–it would be prudent to achieve another 2,000 to 4,000 pounds of bring-back weight, for either fuel or weapons, especially since the F-35 will be able to carry additional weapons on wing pylons, when stealth is not a requirement.

The UK will formally decide later this year on a further purchase of F-35s, beyond the three already acquired (at a cost of $350 million) for test and evaluation (T&E). The number under consideration is believed to be 15, enough to equip an initial operational squadron. Another 30 are likely to be approved before 2015, when another British defense review will consider how many more F-35s the country can afford. Until then, the officials maintained, the UK “program of record” remains a total of 138 F-35s. Most observers believe that the UK will not acquire more than 100 F-35s, and some suggest the final total might be as low as 70.

The officials revealed that the UK will work closely with the U.S. Marine Corps to bring its F-35Bs into operational service. After it is formed in 2016, the first British squadron will be based at MCAS Yuma and integrated with the co-located USMC F-35B fleet. Pilots of both services will be able to fly the others’ aircraft. The squadron will relocate to RAF Marham in the UK in early 2018 and be ready for combat from land bases by the end of that year.

Meanwhile, the UK’s three T&E jets will embark on the new Queen Elizabeth II aircraft carrier for trials in the same year.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: aerospace; f35b; royalnavy

This is the second of three F-35B versions of the Joint Strike Fighter that then UK has bought to date. A further buy should be approved later this year. British pilots will conduct trials of the shipboard rolling vertical landing (SRVL) technique to enable higher landing weights. (Photo: Lockheed Martin)

1 posted on 07/10/2013 3:43:57 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

The F-15 is the Brewster Buffalo of our generation.


2 posted on 07/10/2013 3:48:09 PM PDT by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: Sirius Lee

The F-15 is the greatest air superiority fighter of our time. I’m assuming you made a typo.


3 posted on 07/10/2013 3:54:58 PM PDT by pfflier
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To: sukhoi-30mki

The title is misleading. The Brits are trying to accomodate the weight by changing the landing style.


4 posted on 07/10/2013 3:56:18 PM PDT by pfflier
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To: pfflier

Try to get a hold of PBS Nova’s ‘battle of the X planes’ video. The test pilots for Lockheed Martin were ex-RAF pilots who were testing the vertical lift-off procedures off the LM facilities here in CA.


5 posted on 07/10/2013 4:14:47 PM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company after the election, & laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: pfflier
The F-15 is the greatest air superiority fighter of our time. I’m assuming you made a typo.

Wow! Yes, did I make a typo. F-35. We should have upgraded f-15s/16s and continued the 22 in an air superiority role.

6 posted on 07/10/2013 4:16:50 PM PDT by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: Sirius Lee
Wow! Yes, did I make a typo. F-35. We should have upgraded f-15s/16s and continued the 22 in an air superiority role.

The better comparison is that the F-35 is really a light attack aircraft along the lines of an A-7. A stealthy one with much better first-shot/first kill air-to-air capability, but not something that should be used as a primary air-supremacy fighter or even as a lightweight fighter.

Based on what I've seen/read it should perform admirably in that A-7esque role. If at a pretty steep price tag.
7 posted on 07/10/2013 4:26:11 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Talk about a money pit. The SR-71 didn’t cause this much grief or delays.. We’ve hog-tied ourselves with political correctness and bureaucratic red tape!


8 posted on 07/10/2013 4:30:11 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Does this bomb load make me look fat?


9 posted on 07/10/2013 4:31:29 PM PDT by Redcitizen (.)
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To: Sirius Lee

I’d compare the F-35 to an improved F-16, really. Similar missions to improving defenses.

I do agree that the F22 is needed. Serious mistake not to continue and expand to other countries (e.g., Israel).


10 posted on 07/10/2013 4:31:39 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

The SR-71 did one job, and did it well.

The F35 is asked to do everything. Much harder to balance competing concerns.


11 posted on 07/10/2013 4:32:54 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

LM video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZD-J1KksHUQ


12 posted on 07/10/2013 4:35:59 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Another story about the F-35 Edsel. Britain is still thinking about it?


13 posted on 07/10/2013 5:04:43 PM PDT by Dartman (Mubarak and Gaddafi are going to look like choirboys when this is over)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

nice


14 posted on 07/10/2013 5:46:00 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: sukhoi-30mki; All

He's Waiting.....


15 posted on 07/10/2013 5:52:16 PM PDT by gura (If Allah is so great, why does he need fat sexually confused fanboys to do his dirty work? -iowahawk)
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