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(IL) General Assembly overrides governor's veto of concealed carry bill
Chicago Tribune ^ | 7-9-13 | Ray Long and Monique Garcia

Posted on 07/09/2013 1:16:09 PM PDT by bigbob

Illinois today became the last state in the country to legalize the concealed carry of guns after both the House and Senate rejected Gov. Pat Quinn’s attempt to rewrite the compromise bill.

Senators voted 41-17 to override Quinn’s amendatory veto of the bill. Earlier in the day, the House voted 77-31 to overturn the governor’s rewrite. The measure now becomes law, though the actual ability of gun owners to carry a concealed firearm remains months away.

The action by the Democratic General Assembly was a major repudiation of the actions of the state’s Democratic governor. Supporters of the compromise legislation accused Quinn of engaging in re-election politics rather than negotiating with lawmakers when the bill was crafted.

(Excerpt) Read more at chicagotribune.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: banglist; bitchslap; concealedcarry; guncontrol; illinois; patquinn; patquinnpwned; pistolwhipped; secondamendment; vetooverride
On a bright July day, some light even penetrates the Illinois Statehouse...(and unless you're Pat Quinn, you know where that is!)
1 posted on 07/09/2013 1:16:09 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: bigbob

So they legalised a small part of what the Second Amendment of the Constitution guarantees as the right of every legal citizen. It’s a start, I suppose. It makes me fume that these liars think they’ve done too much when they “grant” us part of our Constitutional rights.


2 posted on 07/09/2013 1:19:54 PM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: bigbob

Maryland may have a concealed Carry law, but just try to get a permit.

There aint any to be had.

It’s a joke.

Apply to the State Police and wait.————forever -—or get turned down. Either way your chances of getting hit by lightning are a lot better.


3 posted on 07/09/2013 1:21:54 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Venturer

Isn’t there a lawsuit trying to change that to true “shall issue”?


4 posted on 07/09/2013 1:37:54 PM PDT by SnuffaBolshevik (In a tornado, even turkeys can fly.)
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To: bigbob

Good for them.


5 posted on 07/09/2013 1:43:07 PM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos...)
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To: Venturer

You are correct.

For all intents and purposes, Maryland bans concealed carry.


6 posted on 07/09/2013 1:44:01 PM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos...)
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To: WayneS

We won a case in court to have concealed carry, but the Attorney General appealed, don’t know what ever happened to it, but I do know its near impossible unless you are a retired Police officer to get concealed carry.,


7 posted on 07/09/2013 1:54:50 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: SnuffaBolshevik

We won that but the Attorney general ap[pealed it.

I don’t know what happened ,but I assume we are getting the bum’s rush on it.


8 posted on 07/09/2013 1:55:43 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Venturer

I know.

My brother, who is neither an ex-cop nor a celebrity, lives in Maryland. He’s pretty much given up on trying to wrest a permit from them.


9 posted on 07/09/2013 2:00:11 PM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos...)
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To: bigbob; 1010RD
“I think he needs to learn how to count,” state Sen. Mike Jacobs, D-East Moline, said of Quinn. “Anyone who doesn’t understand that we’re going to run this bill over his objections doesn’t understand government.”

Congratulations Illinois!

10 posted on 07/09/2013 2:23:59 PM PDT by neverdem (Register pressure cookers! /s)
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To: Venturer

It’s the Woolard v Sheridan case, I believe. Current status is that the 4th Circuit has left in place MDs requirement that a concealed carry licensee have some specific, concrete reason, other than general self defense, for getting the license. That is a classic “may issue” formulation. I don’t know if cert has been filed for SCOTUS, but it clearly merits SCOTUS review, because the net effect is a de facto ban on a constitutional right, per the 7th Circuit under Posner. And I would think sooner would be better than later, given the desirability of having the Heller court still there when “may issue” finally comes up.


11 posted on 07/09/2013 2:26:41 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: Springfield Reformer

If and when they ever start issuing , there will be a rush like you wouldn’t believe.

Right now concealed carry is a joke.

Self Defense is the main reason for any concealed carry.
I don’t have any money to protect, and I don’t intend to make arrests. Defense for myself and family should be all that is needed.


12 posted on 07/09/2013 2:33:08 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: WayneS

You have to lick the boots of the Maryland State Police Commander.

Only way LOL.


13 posted on 07/09/2013 2:35:40 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: DMZFrank; endthematrix; Chgogal; NotJustAnotherPrettyFace; Lawgvr1955; Petruchio; stylin19a; ...

ILL - Annoy Ping List.


14 posted on 07/09/2013 3:05:41 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: bigbob; 1010RD; BillyBoy; AuH2ORepublican; fieldmarshaldj; PhilCollins; sickoflibs

Suck it Quinn. Jimmy Carter of Illinois, can’t get the heavily rat legislature to do what he wants.


15 posted on 07/09/2013 3:25:54 PM PDT by Impy (Bring back the spoils system.)
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To: bigbob

Now that every state has at least some form of concealed carry, our battle, or war, switches to keeping our gains on concealed carry in each state, as well as to fixing laws in states like Maryland, which are concealed carry in letter but not in spirit.


16 posted on 07/09/2013 4:54:53 PM PDT by re_tail20
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To: Venturer

So they basically deny or just never approve every application?


17 posted on 07/09/2013 8:20:33 PM PDT by matt04
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To: bigbob

I have problems with the bill, but is far better to have override Quinnochio than had his amendatory veto sustained. Would not have been allowed to carry more than 10 rounds, 1 gun and many places would have been off limits. Was at the statehouse after the house vote and before the senate vote. 2nd Amendment rights somewhat restored after 40+ years of denial in Illinois.


18 posted on 07/09/2013 8:44:07 PM PDT by Steelers6
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To: bigbob

The IL Dems will likely file an emergency brief with the New Jersey Supreme Court, and the “Court” will put a Stay in place against the Veto override. It’ll be even more outrageous and comical than back in 2002 when they filled the NJ Senatorial Ballot! lol

.....Wouldn’t surprise me at all.... Well, maybe just a little.


19 posted on 07/10/2013 12:08:04 AM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: neverdem
Congratulations Illinois!

Yup! I listen to WLS daily at work and heard Quinn making despondent sound bites today. I'm sure he would have been more despondent if he wasn't surrounded by bodyguards with guns. What's worse is Quinn probably doesn't realize the irony.

20 posted on 07/10/2013 1:49:55 AM PDT by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: re_tail20

The final goal is Constitutional Carry - no permits, no nothing.


21 posted on 07/10/2013 4:13:21 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

IIRC, that’s what would have happened if they hadn’t passed this bill. Court order to allow carry of some kind had a grace period to work up legislation, and that period was almost up. Legislature was faced with passing this bill or going full-on Constitutional Carry overnight. The veto would have blown their last chance to stop it.

So in a sense, it’s a pity this passed...


22 posted on 07/10/2013 4:18:47 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (Making good people helpless doesn't make bad people harmless.)
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To: ctdonath2
Politically, the veto would have been a disaster if it held, even for us. You can overreach and Illinois' liberals aren't ready to swallow CC. We're America's North Korea.

Rep. Kelly Cassidy, D-Chicago, a gun control supporter, said "it is a very safe bet that we will be back" fighting over changes in the new law.

Cassidy noted the new law removes the ability of larger communities to set some of their own gun laws and said she feared gun rights supporters are "going to be back here time after time after time chipping away at all the things that everyone has lauded as the great protections."

Great protections that hold the citizenry as a kind of pet, too dangerous to have full rights. That's Illinois.

23 posted on 07/10/2013 4:27:37 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: matt04

Exactly.

They basically deny or just never approve any application.


24 posted on 07/10/2013 4:42:31 AM PDT by Venturer
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