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It’s Here: The Stealth Collapse of the American Economy
The Oganic Prepper ^ | July 7, 2013 | Daisy Luther

Posted on 07/08/2013 4:12:16 AM PDT by haffast

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To: haffast; Kartographer

Of course it’s not a myth. It almost happened in 2008.


21 posted on 07/08/2013 9:18:10 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (I don't always vote, but when I do, I SURE AS HELL DON'T VOTE DEMOCRAT!)
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To: haffast
I live in apartment with no grass and very few windows. So I made “Rolling Gardens” I salvaged some old casters and building materials and created rolling carts. I salvaged some 5 gallon buckets and made some of those nifty “Earth Buckets” Now I've got 2 huge cucumber plants 12 huge tomato plants 4 huge pepper plants as well as lettuce and potatoes and garlic.

I roll them out during the day on the sidewalk and them take them in a night.

Already harvesting cucumbers...

22 posted on 07/08/2013 9:31:01 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Marcella

Marcella, this whole thing with “smart meters” has to do with UN Agenda 21. The aim of those is to enable the power companies/govt to be able to control the citizens’ power usage.

This is very insidious and is only a very small, but significant outrage being fostered by the UN et al. They are seeking to put into place their program by ignorant acceptance at the grass roots level.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2863065/posts

Post 128 of the Action Thread is a summary of the history of Agenda 21, “what they are doing”, “what to do about it” and a good bibliography for further reading.

From the post 128 on Smart Meters:

SMART METERS – These are being installed in some Oklahoma communities. These meters are capable of SHUTTING OFF your power. Appliances have been developed that will talk to the meter and will shut you down if it decides you are using too much electricity. They are laying the infrastructure. Guess what they will be requiring us to do in the future? That’s right...buy those appliances. Some who were at the meeting urged that if they try to put you on a smart meter, GET LEGAL ADVICE, hire an electrician, and tell the electricity company to come and get their meter.


23 posted on 07/08/2013 9:37:32 PM PDT by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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To: I want the USA back
You'd better hope you're right. If you're not, don't come knocking on my door looking for a handout.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

24 posted on 07/08/2013 9:48:03 PM PDT by wku man (Amnesty? No Way, Jose (No Se Puede!) by 10 Pound Test http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsTUQ8yOI2c)
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To: TEXOKIE
Marcella, this whole thing with “smart meters” has to do with UN Agenda 21. The aim of those is to enable the power companies/govt to be able to control the citizens’ power usage.

Yes, I read a thread on that. Fridges are the first appliances to have that “something extra” in them that a utility company can use to turn down the power a fridge can get. The book/movie, 1984, is coming true.

I bought my fridge in 2003 and keep a repair policy on it so it doesn't cost me a fortune if it needs to be repaired. I don't want a new fridge.

25 posted on 07/08/2013 10:11:26 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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To: Marcella

You are well informed, and may your fridge live long and prosper!...and never be smart!


26 posted on 07/08/2013 10:18:28 PM PDT by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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To: TEXOKIE
You are well informed, and may your fridge live long and prosper!...and never be smart!

I'll tell the fridge you said that.

27 posted on 07/08/2013 10:26:49 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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To: Kartographer

What do you think of having a separate well where the user can retrieve water the old way with a hand pump?

Right now my electric pump brings water up from 230 feet. Would that be too far for a hand pump to retrieve water from?

I remember my grandparents had one of those hand pump wells. They lived in Gallatin Gateway, Montana which is right outside the Gallatin Canyon that heads to Lone Mountain and West Yellowstone.

However, their well was barely 30 feet deep.


28 posted on 07/09/2013 11:10:51 AM PDT by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: OneVike
Your own well. Let's see what a survior of the Bosina war says:

From a Sarajevo War Survivor:

"Living near a well with a manual pump is like being in Eden."


There are handpumps that go that deep, but I think you would wear yourself out just getting 10 gallons of water. How about a solar set up and a cistern or a holding tank of some kind.
29 posted on 07/09/2013 1:21:42 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Marcella

LOL!


30 posted on 07/09/2013 1:42:39 PM PDT by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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To: TEXOKIE; Marcella

Tattle-Tale! ;-)


31 posted on 07/09/2013 6:35:55 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer; Marcella

“Tattle-Tale! ;-)”

*giggle*


32 posted on 07/09/2013 8:51:04 PM PDT by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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To: Kartographer

I currently have a 200 gallon holding tank for my water that the pump fills once the pressure drops to 35 psi.

I have considered a solar power setup for the pump, but have never really looked into it.


33 posted on 07/10/2013 10:47:57 AM PDT by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: Kartographer; OneVike

For those who already have a well operated with an electric pump, they do make a rather inexpensive bucket that is long and narrow that you can use to manually bring up water from your well.

Hubby tells me he can rewire the pump to use with the generator or maybe some solar device, but then he won’t do it until after the emergency, because we’ve always been ok in past outages with our emergency supplies (sigh). I figure that bucket will save my peace of mind until then.

Cisterns are pretty expensive to put in, but they are great. When I was a kid, many of the old houses in the country, had cisterns. They were great for laundry etc. They weren’t considered potable, but with the filters that preppers have that wouldnt’ be a problem.


34 posted on 07/12/2013 1:21:32 AM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: OneVike

I was doing some research on it. So far no so good - Solar setup to be able to flip a switch and change between electric to solar was way more expensive than I could afford.


35 posted on 07/12/2013 1:24:06 AM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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