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Female inmates sterilized in California prisons without approval
News 10 | July 07, 2013

Posted on 07/08/2013 1:03:07 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows

Link and title only. [Gannett]


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: noinformedconsent; nojustice; obamacare; obamatyranny
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To: rawcatslyentist
I'm saying that human beings, by their very nature, could and should control their sex instincts. Not that all of them do. But those who truly cannot, should not be allowed out in public without a keeper and a short leash.

The task before us, is to rebuild human beings.

41 posted on 07/08/2013 6:35:51 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("The story of the human race is the story of men and women selling themselves short." Abraham Maslow)
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To: Slings and Arrows
When a country gets a high enough percentage of Muslims, genocide happens.

When a state gets a high enough percentage of leftists, Naziism happens.
42 posted on 07/08/2013 6:57:46 PM PDT by Wanderer99
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Incarceration for sexual proclivity?

Yeah, I'm the monster.

I'm not talking about sterilizing just the women. Men too! If the momma wont give up the donor, no check!

Sterilization nowadays is not the cruel thing it was 40 years ago. It can be done so it is easily reversible. If anything mandatory welfare sterilization will bring parents closer because it will instill life value to the child beyond a cheap monthly payment.

43 posted on 07/08/2013 7:00:50 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:32 "The arrogant one will stumble and fall With no one to raise him up; And I will set)
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To: Theo

I’d appreciate more details, if you’re free to disclose them.


44 posted on 07/08/2013 7:24:16 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Slings and Arrows
women's prison photo: women in prison caged.jpg
45 posted on 07/08/2013 7:54:28 PM PDT by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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To: DuncanWaring

Progressives never change. While this doesn’t seem to be state sanctioned, it appears as though several of the doctors were ideologues and let their worldview guide their actions.


46 posted on 07/09/2013 5:23:12 AM PDT by ProgressingAmerica (What's the best way to reach a YouTube generation? Put it on YouTube!)
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To: rawcatslyentist

I’m not objecting to sterilization because it’s cruel. I’m objecting because it’s maiming. And doing it to somebody without consent is a serious violation of medical ethics (no doctor should consent to do it) as well as, legally, battery.


47 posted on 07/09/2013 6:54:31 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("When you come to a fork in the road, take it." - Yogi Berra)
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To: Slings and Arrows

No problem. My older brother was born with a minor brain injury, made poor decicions in high school, got a girl pregnant and married her, went on welfare, had another child ... and his caseworker offered him a financial incentive if he’d get a vasectomy. My brother thought that was a great deal (he couldn’t really care for his two kids, who ended up being adopted by my parents), so he took the money and had the procedure. He’s fine with it — it allowed him to be less restrained with his sexuality, and he made a few easy dollars. Was my brother, whose brain doesn’t work quite right, “coerced”? Maybe. But we’re all fine with it.


48 posted on 07/09/2013 7:58:44 AM PDT by Theo (May Christ be exalted above all.)
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To: Slings and Arrows

Can’t have the guards getting caught impregnating the prisoners.


49 posted on 07/09/2013 9:01:22 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: Talisker

No, really!?


50 posted on 07/09/2013 9:22:45 AM PDT by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: a fool in paradise

Interesting angle.


51 posted on 07/09/2013 10:47:02 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Theo

Your older brother is an interesting case. I would say that whether or not his sterilization was ethical would depend on whether he was capable of giving informed consent; i.e., whether or he was capable of understanding what he was consenting to and making the choice rationally.

In the case of the inmates in the story, there is grave doubt as to whether informed consent was given, or even possible. Firstly, some have said that the operation was done against their will. Secondly, others have said they were pressured by prison authorities, which a situation under which autonomy is compromised due to the power disparity. Altogether, a very different situation from that of your brother.


52 posted on 07/09/2013 10:57:29 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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