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In Secret, Court Vastly Broadens Powers of N.S.A. (almost a parallel Supreme Court)
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Posted on 07/06/2013 9:00:30 PM PDT by chessplayer

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To: dynachrome

” I did not know this existed. How many of you reading this knew?”

Shhhhh....that’s a secret.


121 posted on 07/08/2013 5:13:38 AM PDT by lowbridge
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To: KoRn
It’s most likely a rubber stamp for .gov and its intelligence services!

Breitbart had a story on this the other day here. The court's members deny that it is a rubber stamp for the government, but according to the Breitbart article, 1800 requests were made for wiretaps last year, and the FISA court did not deny a single request. In other words, the court had a 100% approval of every government request for wiretaps last year, and its legal opinions are classified.

122 posted on 07/08/2013 12:34:56 PM PDT by old republic
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To: chessplayer

“In denying the right [the Supreme Court usurps] of exclusively explaining the Constitution, I go further than [others] do, if I understand rightly [this] quotation from the Federalist of an opinion that ‘the judiciary is the last resort in relation to the other departments of the government, but not in relation to the rights of the parties to the compact under which the judiciary is derived.’ If this opinion be sound, then indeed is our Constitution a complete felo de se [act of suicide]. For intending to establish three departments, coordinate and independent, that they might check and balance one another, it has given, according to this opinion, to one of them alone the right to prescribe rules for the government of the others, and to that one, too, which is unelected by and independent of the nation. For experience has already shown that the impeachment it has provided is not even a scare-crow... The Constitution on this hypothesis is a mere thing of wax in the hands of the judiciary, which they may twist and shape into any form they please.”
—Thomas Jefferson to Spencer Roane, 1819.

“Contrary to all correct example, [the Federal judiciary] are in the habit of going out of the question before them, to throw an anchor ahead and grapple further hold for future advances of power. They are then in fact the corps of sappers and miners, steadily working to undermine the independent rights of the States and to consolidate all power in the hands of that government in which they have so important a freehold estate.”
—Thomas Jefferson: Autobiography, 1821

“This member of the Government was at first considered as the most harmless and helpless of all its organs. But it has proved that the power of declaring what the law is, ad libitum, by sapping and mining slyly and without alarm the foundations of the Constitution, can do what open force would not dare to attempt.”
—Thomas Jefferson to Edward Livingston, 1825.


123 posted on 07/08/2013 1:37:40 PM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos...)
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To: zeugma

Thank you for the info.


124 posted on 07/08/2013 2:58:48 PM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: PghBaldy

any time baldy. I have a bunch of traitorous bastards abandoning ship off the top of my head too.


125 posted on 07/08/2013 3:13:44 PM PDT by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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126 posted on 07/08/2013 8:00:50 PM PDT by cyn (Benghazi.)
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127 posted on 07/08/2013 8:00:51 PM PDT by cyn (Benghazi.)
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To: zeugma

Bump!


128 posted on 07/08/2013 9:26:36 PM PDT by 444Flyer (How long O LORD? Psalm 112)
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To: ConorMacNessa

Thank you. “In my youth I had freedom” too! But I am old and have no power except to speak up and perhaps end up on their list. I appreciate anyone who still has the fire within to fight.


129 posted on 07/09/2013 2:31:02 AM PDT by The Westerner
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To: ConorMacNessa
"And I don't buy that one must acquiesce in the erosion of one's God-given rights to maintain "security." In my long lifetime, we have never had "security" - but in my youth we had Freedom. Freedom is all that matters - without it, there is no life, at least for me!"

Worth shouting from the roof tops!

130 posted on 07/09/2013 4:18:38 PM PDT by uncommonsense (Liberals see what they believe; Conservatives believe what they see.)
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To: zeugma
I put your data into a spreadsheet, 1979 to 2012 - and...

Number of FISA Applications Presented = 33,949
Number of FISA Applications Approved = 33,942
Number of FISA Applications Rejected = 11

The data doesn't lie. Congress critters and government bureaucrats lie with impunity, under oath, on camera, every day.

131 posted on 07/09/2013 4:36:56 PM PDT by uncommonsense (Liberals see what they believe; Conservatives believe what they see.)
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To: WayneS
"Contrary to all correct example, [the Federal judiciary] are in the habit of going out of the question before them, to throw an anchor ahead and grapple further hold for future advances of power. They are then in fact the corps of sappers and miners, steadily working to undermine the independent rights of the States and to consolidate all power in the hands of that government in which they have so important a freehold estate.'

—Thomas Jefferson: Autobiography, 1821

Wow! I've never seen this quote. To use a '60's phrase -"That's heavy man!"

I believe Washington was our greatest leader, but Franklin, Jefferson, and Madison were our prophets of Republican destiny.

132 posted on 07/09/2013 4:47:51 PM PDT by uncommonsense (Liberals see what they believe; Conservatives believe what they see.)
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