Posted on 07/06/2013 7:37:16 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
A Conversation with Thomas Fleming, historian and author of A Disease in the Public Mind: A New Understanding of Why We Fought the Civil War.
Thomas Fleming is known for his provocative, politically incorrect, and very accessible histories that challenge many of the clichés of current American history books. Fleming is a revisionist in the best conservative sense of the word. His challenges to accepted wisdom are not with an agenda, but with a relentless hunger for the truth and a passion to present the past as it really was, along with capturing the attitudes and culture of the times.
In The New Dealers’ War Fleming exposed how the radical Left in FDR’s administration almost crippled the war effort with their utopian socialist experimentation, and how Harry Truman led reform efforts in the Senate that kept production in key materials from collapse.
In The Illusion of Victory, Fleming showed that while liberal academics may rate Woodrow Wilson highly, that he may have been the most spectacularly failed President in history. 100,000 American lives were sacrificed to favor one colonial monarchy over another, all so Wilson could have a seat at the peace table and negotiate The League of Nations. Instead, the result of WWI was Nazism and Communism killing millions for the rest of the century.....
(Excerpt) Read more at pjmedia.com ...
Abolitionists = Liberals
They're itching for a repeat.
BTW I've often wondered why the South didn't make a concerted effort to kill Lincoln, either before he took office, or early in the war. The North would've been left rudderless and most likely would've sued for peace.
Goody two-shoes liberals caused the Civil War. The same Goody Two-shoes white guilt liberal azz- wipes Obama voting idiots who will cause the next one.
No.
All this stuff is false flag liberal stuff designed to create even more division in the USA. PJ Media has too many liberals mixed in.
The Knights of the Golden Circle did. They were unsuccessful until a team led by John Wilkes Booth got him right after the war.
money
IBTNC ...... almost
As far as slavery goes, I've read where only about 6% of the population in the slave states actually owned and worked them. For a slave owner to work a farm, etc. with virtually free labor competing against non slave holding farmers, I'd imagine that would have developed some deep seeded animosity within the South.
The truth? Well, you'd have to have lived in that era to be sure, I'd think. I only know how history is written by the victors and the press at large. My one anchor point in this is having lived during Kennedy's administration and then to see the last 50 years of pure lying BS put out about the media's darling Camelot.
Nothing new under the sun. Compromisers of principle blaming those who won't compromise principle for the inevitable fruit of their own compromises.
After The North tried to kill Jefferson Davis. He became a target.
After The North tried to kill Jefferson Davis. He became a target.
There are 2 Thomas Flemings.
Caution should be applied because I have mistakenly confused them. They are quite different people.
Most wars are probably not caused by just one thing. Hence it’s easy for the revisionists to say “the civil war was not about slavery”.
Because it was about slavery AND tariffs AND economic resentment AND regional differences that had been present since the beginning AND views about whether a state or states could actually secede AND ....
Not EVERYTHING we were taught in school was wrong. Slavery was the principal driver that led to CW1 - those who would have it otherwise are using the fallacy that would say that since it was not the ONLY factor it was not A factor which is simply not true.
“Did Abolitionist Hatred of the South Cause the Civil War?”
Nope. An overbearing federal government intent on dismantling states rights caused it.....red
“Here we get into the peculiarities of the New England mind. They had a natural tendency to look down on the rest of the country.”
Has anything changed?
From the brief discussion in this article, the arrogance of the north reminds me of the arrogance of King George, and the arrogance of the Obama administration. The arrogance (hatred) of King George led to the first American Revolution. The arrogance (hatred) of the north, based on this read, led to the Civil War. What will the arrogance of the Obama Administration lead us to?
Excellent article. Thanks for posting!
This rings SO true! I would add this emphasis: the South was also motivated by the self-righeousness of the Calvinist Christian. The Ulster spirit that keeps Ireland divided to this day was manifest in them. The Civil War was Cavalier vs. Roundhead only if we remember that Charles I was also inspired by a belief in Divine Right. Jackson would have been a perfect fit in Cromwell’s New Model Army.
They lusted for the blood of the southern slave holders, and agitated against the CSA separating peacefully.
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