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8-month-old boy dies after mom forgets he's in car on 90-degree day
NBCNews ^ | Gil Aegerter

Posted on 07/05/2013 9:43:18 PM PDT by South40

An 8-month-old boy died Friday after a Virginia mother forgot he was in her car and went to work, leaving him there all day as temperatures rose to around 90, police said.

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Meanwhile, a 16-month-old girl died in Baltimore after being left in a truck by a relative who forgot her when he went home to take a nap, NBCWashington.com reported, citing police.

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1 posted on 07/05/2013 9:43:18 PM PDT by South40
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To: South40

No way a mother could forget her baby in the car.

Just an excuse for a postpartum abortion.


2 posted on 07/05/2013 9:47:09 PM PDT by Wellington VII
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To: South40

How the hell do you ....ahh , never mind ...


3 posted on 07/05/2013 9:47:16 PM PDT by sushiman ( .)
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To: South40

How f***ed up do you have to be to leave your kid like that?


4 posted on 07/05/2013 9:48:58 PM PDT by ScottinVA ( Liberal is to patriotism as Kermit Gosnell is to neonatal care.)
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To: South40
Oh, I can believe it. Enough that it makes me ill thinking about all the "near misses" in bringing up children, that fraction of a a second's inattention--

Just factor in a parent with little sleep, too much work, carelessness and a lifetime of regret.

5 posted on 07/05/2013 9:50:33 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: South40

It has happened here. The father and his friend should have been executed by placing them in a car with the windows rolled up on a very hot day.

Years ago, I once got some baby chicks, placed them in my car at noon, and found them all dead in the evening, even though the windows were down. It was just too hot out side.

I learned a hard lesson that day.


6 posted on 07/05/2013 9:51:47 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: South40

Prayers for both.


7 posted on 07/05/2013 9:51:57 PM PDT by informavoracious (We're being "punished" with Stanley Ann's baby. Obamacare: shovel-ready healthcare.)
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To: Wellington VII

How true.

You can convince me of many things, but a mother forgetting that her child is in the car ... BS

As a former (ret.) LEO, I suffered through two of these events (as the first officer on scene) and trust me it is horrendous, something I still have nightmares about.


8 posted on 07/05/2013 9:55:07 PM PDT by doc1019 (Get our troops the hell out of the ME)
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To: Wellington VII

I think it depends on the mother.

Some mothers just don’t care that much.

Others are mentally not with it, for whatever reason.

I sincerely believe that sometimes it’s just a tragic and horrifying lapse of consciousness and awareness brought on by thinking of too many things at once. Something gets dropped, and it’s the absolute worst thing.


9 posted on 07/05/2013 9:57:22 PM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: Mamzelle

And yes, lack of sleep is a factor. As is a general lack of ability to keep up with all the details of what’s going on.


10 posted on 07/05/2013 9:59:00 PM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: Wellington VII

Possibly.

However, thanks to the normalization of daycare, it’s normal for many people to be used to going about their business and not realize that their kids aren’t around.


11 posted on 07/05/2013 9:59:30 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Jeff Winston

You don’t have to have gone through this to feel at least a little pity for this parent—you just have to come close once or twice in a lifetime. There are few people more scatter-brained than a parent of a baby—there is just so much distraction. The very nature of being a parent means that your focus is divided from moment to moment—add to that working a couple of jobs and doing without rest. Oh, I know how it might happen. Thank the Lord it never did.


12 posted on 07/05/2013 10:04:34 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: Mamzelle

In addition to all the things you mentioned, I also blame a certain amount of the problem to the child being in the back seat and often asleep and quiet.

Like you, I am grateful that no serious harm befell during the “growing years”. The guilt would be unbearable.


13 posted on 07/05/2013 10:11:33 PM PDT by berdie
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To: Mamzelle

Add to this the fact that it is illegal to put a child seat in the front seat where you can see and be aware of them.


14 posted on 07/05/2013 10:12:27 PM PDT by snowtigger (. Thanx to Charlie Daniels, " Let them win, or bring them HOME")
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To: Mamzelle

Thank you, Mamzelle.

For more than a century children have been viewed by too many as a shameful, expensive, nuisance, instead of the little instances of God’s love that they really are. Taking care of them is pushed to one side.

In such a culture, I can bless God that I was able to be a stay-at-home parent whose day was centerd on my child.


15 posted on 07/05/2013 10:25:48 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (In te, Domine, speravi: non confundar in aeternum.)
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To: Mamzelle

Why do people like that have children? My mother was like a drill sergeant.


16 posted on 07/05/2013 10:32:56 PM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: Jeff Winston

Reason #1 that mothers should not have jobs. Their job is...being a mother.


17 posted on 07/05/2013 10:34:54 PM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: South40

No excuses. Charge her with something.

I have real trouble believing a child can be forgotten in a car. Everyone I see getting out a car turns back and glances at it. Women have purses they turn and pick up and look in the back seat.

Frankly I think this is just plain murder and excused away as forgetting. I notice too this happens in the summer so often and not during the year when the tempatures are mild.


18 posted on 07/05/2013 10:41:21 PM PDT by RginTN
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To: kabumpo

In a perfect world, you are correct.

Of course some choose to be single parents. That is not always the case.

I think back about my Mom who was left with 3 kids. Not her choice. She worked two jobs for years just to keep food on the table and a roof over our heads..and not a very fancy roof, lol.

I was able to help her with my knuckleheaded brothers and when I was old enough to work...financially. But she was still stretched very thin. It’s not always a choice.


19 posted on 07/05/2013 10:45:56 PM PDT by berdie
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To: South40
I almost did it. Every morning I dropped my daughter off at the sitter and drove my son to school. Dropped my daughter off at the sitter and drove my son to school. Dropped my daughter off at the sitter and drove my son to school.

One morning we were running very late. I drove my son directly to school without stopping at the sitter so he could get there on time. Then I drove to work. I was so used to driving directly to work after dropping my son at school that I did it without thinking. And I was distracted from being late already.

Thanks be to God that I looked in the back seat as I shut the car door. There was my beautiful daughter in her car seat looking up at me, quiet as a mouse.

You can judge if you want, but try having mercy instead. Human beings make mistakes. Sometimes horrible mistakes. If I had lost my daughter I would never have been able to live with the guilt

20 posted on 07/05/2013 10:46:46 PM PDT by informavoracious (We're being "punished" with Stanley Ann's baby. Obamacare: shovel-ready healthcare.)
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To: berdie

When you make it be about your own mother, you effectively make it impossible to answer without being insulting.


21 posted on 07/05/2013 10:50:56 PM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: kabumpo

Well, please, don’t feel that way.

What would your answer be?


22 posted on 07/05/2013 10:57:07 PM PDT by berdie
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To: snowtigger
Add to this the fact that it is illegal to put a child seat in the front seat where you can see and be aware of them.

I'd like to know just how many accidents that law alone has caused. I'm guessing quite a few.

The human brain when distracted of fatigued sometimes doesn't keep up with us. Usually the end result is things like burning food, letting a tub run over, paying for items in a store then leaving them there, putting the salt in the refrigerator etc. If the brain gets distracted a cuing can be missed that you uncompleted doing something. It can be minor or very major but the brain processed it as a completed task. Stress can also factor in.

When I was a Toddler maybe a year old I took a trip out the front door and down the street. A neighbor about 8 houses down saw me passing by LOL. It too could have been tragic. Mom was distracted it may have been canning time or something.

People all of us get into a routine. I'm used to going places on a regular basis and often I find myself a good ways down the road headed toward the wrong place. Usually that miles turning around and heading in the right direction.

Let's remember something else here also. Most of us 50 and over were left in cars as kids. Of course we were old enough to roll the window down but we lived in a society where it was safe to do such.

23 posted on 07/05/2013 11:03:58 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: South40

Back in the day, before airbags, babies were usually in the front passenger seat where the mom or dad saw them as the exited the car and did not forget to get their baby out. The airbags began in 1997 and that is when all of these deaths began to occur.


24 posted on 07/05/2013 11:11:28 PM PDT by Slyfox (Without the Right to Life, all other rights are meaningless.)
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To: South40

mom didn’t forget. it’s offensive she thinks we’re dumb enough to believe her.


25 posted on 07/05/2013 11:13:45 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: RginTN
No excuses. Charge her with something. I have real trouble believing a child can be forgotten in a car. Everyone I see getting out a car turns back and glances at it. Women have purses they turn and pick up and look in the back seat.

Most if not all cars do not allow you to see directly behind you. Meaning you can't turn your head 180 degrees and see the back seat. In a 1965 Chevy you could see anywhere in the car real easy. Your own seat was not blocking your view. You may glance at the car as you leave but what do you see?

Cars are much smaller and difficult to see both into and also what's going on inside the car while your in it. Car seats are low profile, often hidden from review mirrors, add tented windows and you likely see nothing but maybe the lock knob as you leave.

Personally I loathe the car seats. A kid that is a year old and definitely a kid 18 months old if not strapped into a car seat like a space shuttle launch can most likely get out of the darn car themselves if they could get out of the darn car seat. The left in car incidents most likely increased with the car seat law. Not even a five or six year old can get out of some of those things alone.

26 posted on 07/05/2013 11:21:00 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: Mad Dawg

My thoughts exactly. When babies are viewed by the president of the United States as a “punishment” and by the msm as an “ inconvenience” legally allowed to be taken out with the trash then it’s actually a miracle that anyone survives at all.


27 posted on 07/05/2013 11:25:32 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: berdie

I’m sorry, I am not able to criticize - even by inference - the mother of someone I do not know.


28 posted on 07/05/2013 11:31:46 PM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: cva66snipe
I dunno about this one. When I take my son anywhere, I unload him first, and load him in first.

I always say to him: "Gotta put the most precious groceries in first, you. Then I'll put the rest in."

I'm NOT defending this, the mom was irresponsible.

I doubt this was more than a terrible accident. And if the mom has a shred of humanity, she'll be suicidal.

I would be.

And yes, times have changed.

Jeez, my dad let me hang out the passenger side door as a "treat".

In 2013 he'd be hauled of to jail. In 1973, he was just a regular guy.

Seat belts? Hah!

My sister reminded me of how we had to wear them in the city, but "Once we get to the highway, you can take your belts off."

How we survived living back then, I'll never know.

29 posted on 07/05/2013 11:34:10 PM PDT by boop ("You don't look so bad, here's another")
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To: South40

Quit putting the frickin’ baby’s car seats in the back seat and back up front next to the driver. Problem solved. Stupid morons who came up with these “child safety” laws should be the ones put on trial.


30 posted on 07/05/2013 11:35:22 PM PDT by upsdriver ( Palin/West '16)
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To: ScottinVA

If your’e an Obummie supporting liberal not much... Maybe she was distracted by her Obamaphone while she was trying to “buy” groceries for someone in line using her EBT card so they would give her cash so shr could use tto buy drugs and got “distracted”...


31 posted on 07/05/2013 11:42:53 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: boop
I notice the view issue a lot more because I've generally driven full size vans, single bench seat pick ups, or older 1970's SUV's like the old K-5 Chevy Blazer. Driver can see everything inside the vehicle. On the other hand I get into Moms 2003 Tahoe and I notice my movements in the seat and my view as far as inside the vehicle goes is very limited. Generally when I drive her vehicle I'm driving her somewhere and seeing the rear seats are not an issue. But to retrieve anything even a loaf of bread from the back seat requires getting out and opening the back door. In the Blazer I could reach it.

I've known very good parents from very good families who have had tragic things happen such as running over their child they though was inside the house. How many Freepers do a complete walk around their vehicle before getting in I mean both sides front to back? If honest likely not that many. I still do it in a parking lot or buying gas and I can see all around my vehicles due to them being high profile.

Most parents have had their this could have been very serious close calls at some point. It may not have been the car it could have been the pot on a stove with the hanle in reach that kills just as dead, or the door to the basement stairs open. We call them accidents. An unfortunate part of an imperfect world we live in. As the saying goes "There but for the Grace of GOD go I".

32 posted on 07/06/2013 12:19:25 AM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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Ain’t it great that mom’s gotta work.


33 posted on 07/06/2013 12:21:41 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: South40

Dreadful. RIP.


34 posted on 07/06/2013 12:47:41 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: informavoracious

I had a change in routine one morning, too. I usually did not drop my toddler daughter anywhere- my husband and I worked different shifts, so she just stayed home with him. One day, I had to drop her off with Grandma, due to him having an appointment. On auto-pilot, I started to drive to work and was halfway to the freeway before something caught my attention, and I remembered she was there. I was in such a panic, thinking what if I’d made it a the way to work and forgotten her? Change in routine, fatigue, overloaded... Unfortunately, I understand this one, too- as terrible as it can be to wrap my brain around, I realized that day, it could happen to me.


35 posted on 07/06/2013 12:50:28 AM PDT by conservative cat
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To: snowtigger

Good point, I’ll bet if the damn government never came up with that law several children who are now dead would be alive today. Government knows best huh. But how tired would you have to be to forget your own baby is with you in the car?!


36 posted on 07/06/2013 12:55:07 AM PDT by kelly4c (http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/post?id=2900389%2C41#help)
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To: kelly4c
But how tired would you have to be to forget your own baby is with you in the car?!

Familiarity breeds contempt. There are electronic devices that beep once the parent and the child are separated by some distance. It is wise to use them.

Humans are known to make mistakes; machines help us detect and prevent those mistakes. They will not guarantee safety and security, of course - nothing does; but they improve your chances.

37 posted on 07/06/2013 1:39:48 AM PDT by Greysard
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To: cva66snipe
Most if not all cars do not allow you to see directly behind you. Meaning you can't turn your head 180 degrees and see the back seat. In a 1965 Chevy you could see anywhere in the car real easy. Your own seat was not blocking your view. You may glance at the car as you leave but what do you see? Cars are much smaller and difficult to see both into and also what's going on inside the car while your in it. Car seats are low profile, often hidden from review mirrors, add tented windows and you likely see nothing but maybe the lock knob as you leave. Personally I loathe the car seats. A kid that is a year old and definitely a kid 18 months old if not strapped into a car seat like a space shuttle launch can most likely get out of the darn car themselves if they could get out of the darn car seat. The left in car incidents most likely increased with the car seat law. Not even a five or six year old can get out of some of those things alone.

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True to your first sentence but I and the people I see always look in the front and back before locking their cars.

Maybe I've watched too many murder mysteries on the Investigative Discovery channel because I am a skeptic about parents forgetting their child only in the summer when its 90+ degrees.

38 posted on 07/06/2013 1:52:51 AM PDT by RginTN
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To: Mamzelle

And the fact that they make you put the baby in the back seat (out of sight and out of mind).

I’m convinced that if we could put our children in the front seat like we used to, this wouldn’t happen.


39 posted on 07/06/2013 1:53:59 AM PDT by packrat35 (Admit it! We are almost ready to be called a police state!)
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To: South40

I will be honest. When I was at the commissary with my three week old daughter... I forgot she was in the buggy until I looked in my empty backseat. Some weird rule about kids in cars eats had to ride in the back. I was horrified, she probably sat there two minutes. I can’t explain it in a nice way or justify it... It happened.


40 posted on 07/06/2013 1:58:37 AM PDT by momincombatboots (Back to West by G-d Virginia.)
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To: RginTN

Actually there have been cases of children dying in the winter.


41 posted on 07/06/2013 2:03:36 AM PDT by packrat35 (Admit it! We are almost ready to be called a police state!)
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To: packrat35

I haven’t heard of those cases.


42 posted on 07/06/2013 2:13:45 AM PDT by RginTN
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To: kelly4c
But how tired would you have to be to forget your own baby is with you in the car?!

It seems like it could not happen. That would just about kill a person. I hope the State Does punish her in some way, it may keep her alive.

43 posted on 07/06/2013 2:31:46 AM PDT by snowtigger (. Thanx to Charlie Daniels, " Let them win, or bring them HOME")
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To: South40

Get rid of the stupid “back seat” laws that put infants in the back rather than the front where mommy won’t forget about them.


44 posted on 07/06/2013 2:47:02 AM PDT by miss marmelstein ( Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: berdie
I also blame a certain amount of the problem to the child being in the back seat and often asleep and quiet.

That's it. Out of sight, out of mind.
Unintended consequences of requiring the children to be in the back seat.
My car, and many others have clear windshield and front side windows. The rear sides and rear are heavily tinted, from the factory.

Child asleep in the car seat, mom/dad been driving some time, in a rush. He/she gets out of the car, glances around but can't see in the drivers side rear window. Doesn't see the baby.

Mom needs to place her purse or something she can't do without in the back seat next to the car seat. What could father use?

45 posted on 07/06/2013 4:01:01 AM PDT by Vinnie
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To: Wellington VII

“No way a mother could forget her baby in the car”

No mention of mothers name or race.


46 posted on 07/06/2013 4:01:53 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: South40
I see everyone is talking about the mother in Virginia. I have to ask about the one in Baltimore. It was a pick up truck, how do you leave a kid in a pickup truck?
47 posted on 07/06/2013 4:38:21 AM PDT by verga (A nation divided by Zero!)
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To: doc1019

It’s the daycare mentality. Women who put their kids in daycare forget about them for long periods of time. Once in the habit of forgetting about them it’s not easy to go back to full attention.


48 posted on 07/06/2013 5:11:37 AM PDT by Varda
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To: South40

News needs to be doing a nightly PSA DO NOT LEAVE PETS OR CHILDREN IN HOT LOCKED CARS WITH THE WINDOW CRACKED.

We are already in the low 90’s and little rain, in Memphis.


49 posted on 07/06/2013 5:18:45 AM PDT by GailA (THOSE WHO DON'T KEEP PROMISES TO THE MILITARY, WON'T KEEP THEM TO U!)
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To: Wellington VII

Same reason people leave pets in the car. It’s not that they forgot, they were in a hurry to get to the food chow line in the all you can eat.

Witnessed this 2 weeks ago in Memphis, before I could go tell the manager to call the LEO, these 2 quite 300 pounder’s came out and drove off, poor little Malteese was in heat distress. I own dogs and know the signs. My babies which are small stay home in the AC when it is this hot.


50 posted on 07/06/2013 5:24:51 AM PDT by GailA (THOSE WHO DON'T KEEP PROMISES TO THE MILITARY, WON'T KEEP THEM TO U!)
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