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Police chief killed with rifle lost in ATF gun-tracking program
lat ^ | July 5, 2013, 12:45 p.m. | Richard A. Serrano

Posted on 07/05/2013 4:45:01 PM PDT by Red Steel

WASHINGTON—A high-powered rifle lost in the ATF’s Fast and Furious controversy was used to kill a Mexican police chief in the state of Jalisco earlier this year, according to internal Department of Justice records, suggesting that weapons from the failed gun-tracking operation have now made it into the hands of violent drug cartels deep inside Mexico.

Luis Lucio Rosales Astorga, the police chief in the city of Hostotipaquillo, was shot to death Jan. 29 when gunmen intercepted his patrol car and opened fire. Also killed was one of his bodyguards. His wife and a second bodyguard were wounded.

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1 posted on 07/05/2013 4:45:01 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

Nothing to see here move along..........


2 posted on 07/05/2013 4:46:00 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: headstamp 2

At this point, what difference does it make?


3 posted on 07/05/2013 4:46:39 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Red Steel

Another notch in the fedguv’s belt.


4 posted on 07/05/2013 4:47:21 PM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: Nachum; MestaMachine

Ping


5 posted on 07/05/2013 4:47:29 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Red Steel
Eric Holder and Barack Obama...I say THEY are to blame, along with the scumbag who shot the cop.
6 posted on 07/05/2013 4:48:00 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Red Steel

Who in the Congress gives a hoot ?? It is not getting in the way of their corrupt lives.


7 posted on 07/05/2013 4:48:09 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: Red Steel

It wasn’t lost. It was given away by Holder and Holder’s people.


8 posted on 07/05/2013 4:48:17 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: Red Steel
A high-powered rifle lost in the ATF’s Fast and Furious controversy...

No, it wasn't so-called "lost:" it was delivered to Mexican narcotics gangsters, (and I assume the proceeds of the transfer ended up in the coffers of the Democratic [sic] party, though no one seems interested in following the money.)

9 posted on 07/05/2013 4:48:25 PM PDT by Standing Wolf
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To: Red Steel

Cue the ugly leftist woman with cankles:
“What difference at this point does it make?”


10 posted on 07/05/2013 4:49:32 PM PDT by Proud2BeRight
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To: Red Steel

Why don’t they also report on the, “No busts in return for intel”-arrangement that Holder struck with the Gulf Cartel.

They’d give us detailed info on the loads and routes of rival cartels, which we would then bust big-time. And then all the loads of the Gulf Cartel would get through.

So we’d look like these incredibly good enforcers, when in fact the US Government was just a PARTNER with a cartel.

Which was why those other targeted cartel guys killed our Customs guy down there —they viewed him as a de-facto MEMBER of the Gulf Cartel.


11 posted on 07/05/2013 4:51:31 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Red Steel

12 posted on 07/05/2013 4:53:05 PM PDT by South40
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To: Red Steel
If someone is killed due to an illegal scheme, does s/he count for obama's Death list?

That's kind of a technical question and I apologize if it's already been addressed in the past with the Clinton Death List and I missed it or just forgot.

13 posted on 07/05/2013 4:53:14 PM PDT by GBA (Our obamanation: Animal Farm meets 1984 in A Brave New World. Crony capitalism, chaos and control.)
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To: Standing Wolf

High powered? Like .50 BMG?


14 posted on 07/05/2013 4:53:30 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Red Steel

LOST? None of those guns were LOST! They ended up exactly where those POS’s Obama and Holder wanted them!


15 posted on 07/05/2013 4:53:46 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Red Steel

LOST? None of those guns were LOST! They ended up exactly where those POS’s Obama and Holder wanted them!


16 posted on 07/05/2013 4:54:43 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Red Steel

If I commit a crime and someone else is killed as a result of that crime, what do I get charged with?

Paging the FBI, paging the FBI. Oh, what am I thinking, you’re probably already reading this anyway. How bout you earn your keep G man!


17 posted on 07/05/2013 5:01:45 PM PDT by The Toll
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To: Red Steel

Boom


18 posted on 07/05/2013 5:02:36 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave ofo attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: Red Steel
How many more must DIE because of the abdication of
the US Congress???

How many more must be crucified because of the
abdication of the US Congress???

How many more must be shot from Fast&Furious weapons
from the DO"J" because of the abdication of
the US Congress????

How many many will DIE being shot out of the air
from Benghazi MANPADs because of the abdication of
the US Congress????


19 posted on 07/05/2013 5:04:37 PM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: Red Steel

20 posted on 07/05/2013 5:08:38 PM PDT by LyinLibs (If victims of islam were more "islamophobic," maybe they'd still be alive.)
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To: Red Steel

For the 5 millionth time, An AKM semi auto chambered for 7.62x39 is NOT a high powered rifle NOR is it an assault rifle.


21 posted on 07/05/2013 5:13:11 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: GBA

I say yes, they intended for someone, anyone, to be killed and weapons traced back to US amid cries from the media for more gun control.


22 posted on 07/05/2013 5:16:13 PM PDT by duffee (NO poll tax, NO tax on firearms, ammunition or gun safes. NO gun free zones.)
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To: Red Steel
This is a high powered rifle.

This is NOT.


23 posted on 07/05/2013 5:16:27 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: LyinLibs

LOL!!


24 posted on 07/05/2013 5:17:34 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: Red Steel

Really brings into question the motives of our Administration in distributing guns to cartels and to jihadis through Libya and Syria. Is that where all the ammo and guns supposedly purchased for federal agencies went? They ay it was far more than what our military is stocked with. Just what is the Obama Administration up to and who is it benefitting?


25 posted on 07/05/2013 5:50:38 PM PDT by marsh2
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To: Red Steel

Well gee, imagine that.


26 posted on 07/05/2013 5:57:49 PM PDT by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

The list, Ping

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27 posted on 07/05/2013 6:05:47 PM PDT by Nachum (The Obama "List" at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Red Steel

Just another bump in Obama’s road.


28 posted on 07/05/2013 6:07:29 PM PDT by sport
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To: Red Steel

So What?


29 posted on 07/05/2013 6:09:49 PM PDT by RedHeeler
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To: Red Steel

I like how the POS L.A.Times helpfully renames Obunga’s failed attempt to bolster his 90% lie as a “gun tracking” operation.


30 posted on 07/05/2013 6:14:15 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: Red Steel

Impeachment File on Benghazi Coward “B. Hussein Obama,” formerly known as Barry Soetoro, a Legal Citizen of the Sovereign Nation of Indonesia.


31 posted on 07/05/2013 6:59:13 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Commune-Style Obama'care' violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Red Steel
Obama and Holder's idea of allowing illegal guns to go to Mexico to support the false narrative that Mexican cartel violence is the fault of the US claims another victim.

They do not care how many people die.

32 posted on 07/05/2013 7:05:10 PM PDT by Gabrial (The nightmare will continue as long as the nightmare is in the Whitehouse)
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To: mylife

An AK-47 shoots a 154gr bullet about 2100fps.

That M91 shoots a 174gr at 2600fps.

I think that’s plenty close to say the AK-47 is high powered if that M91 is.


33 posted on 07/05/2013 7:13:37 PM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

Ping!


34 posted on 07/05/2013 7:35:17 PM PDT by basil (2ASisters.org)
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To: CodeToad; mylife
I think that’s plenty close to say the AK-47 is high powered if that M91 is.

I was about to make the same argument.

35 posted on 07/05/2013 7:37:15 PM PDT by Vigilantcitizen (Dave Mustaine for president.)
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To: Red Steel

Bump


36 posted on 07/05/2013 7:47:47 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: Red Steel

37 posted on 07/05/2013 7:51:32 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Joe Brower; Travis McGee; LucyT; vette6387; MetaThought; 60Gunner; XHogPilot; FreedomPoster; ...
Lest we forget. Miles to go before we sleep. Still looking for justice.


38 posted on 07/05/2013 7:56:05 PM PDT by MestaMachine (My caps work. You gotta earn them.)
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To: CodeToad

Square the velocities and multiply by the mass. Power = Mv2.


39 posted on 07/05/2013 8:01:27 PM PDT by batterycommander (a little more rubble, a lot less trouble)
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To: CodeToad

Well, my point is don’t help the chuckle heads redefine a ruger 10/22 as a high powered assault rifle.


40 posted on 07/05/2013 8:02:13 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: batterycommander

The M91 is nearly twice as powerful as the AK47.


41 posted on 07/05/2013 8:32:04 PM PDT by batterycommander (a little more rubble, a lot less trouble)
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To: Red Steel
Don’t worry, as soon as a Conservative President is elected the Mexican government will discover that they are angry about Fast & Furious and demand that money be paid and some gun control passed into law, but with Obama President they’ll let it ride.
42 posted on 07/05/2013 8:34:31 PM PDT by RJL (There's no greed like the greed of a liberal politician buying votes with your money.)
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To: Red Steel

Jalisco is nowhere near the border. Sad.


43 posted on 07/06/2013 6:15:43 AM PDT by proudpapa (A school is supposed to be a safe place!' Yeah well so is a womb!)
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To: batterycommander

Actually it’s 1/2MV^2.


44 posted on 07/06/2013 6:38:02 AM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: Paladin2
High powered? Like .50 BMG?

The term "high-powered" means many things to many people, and therefore isn't of much value.

Even the humble .22 long rifle round can be lethal, and often is. Self-described "journalists" whose actual intent is to crank out propaganda for the far left tend to drag out the indefinite term "high-powered" for any firearm that looks at all military. Any rifle with a scope becomes a "sniper rifle." People who are too intellectually lazy to distinguish among "bullets," "cartridges," and "shells" frequently slather on additional adjectives in the hope of frightening people even less knowledgeable than they themselves.

What actually matters isn't the caliber, barrel length, feeding mechanism, sights, material the stock was made of, barrel crown or absence thereof, or weight, but the intent of the person with the firearm. That simple fact, of course, doesn't square with the Marxist scheme of demonizing all firearms and those who dare insist we commoners have a right to keep and bear them, so it's ignored and denied.

Those whom totalitarians can not persuade, they silence, ideally by murdering.

45 posted on 07/06/2013 6:59:21 AM PDT by Standing Wolf
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To: CodeToad

Right.


46 posted on 07/06/2013 8:15:35 AM PDT by batterycommander (a little more rubble, a lot less trouble)
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To: Red Steel
Fast and Furious. Let's call it what it is ... State-sponsored terrorism.

On this side of the border it's violations of the RICO Act. In Mexico and Honduras it's state-sponsored terrorism.

What else would you call heavily arming international criminal syndicates within a foreign country wherein that country is in a death struggle with those syndicates?

Especially when it goes beyond thousands of assault rifles to include grenades, RPGs, shoulder fired rockets, anti-aircraft guns, night vision equipment, body armor and special deals to bring their drugs onto our soil with legal impunity?

Not to mention that the rip crew that killed BP Agent Brian Terry was there with DEA and FBI assistance and approval to attack and kill a rival cartel's smuggling crew.

Let's not leave out the DEA laundering millions of dollars for the drug cartels by setting up bank accounts for them that they otherwise couldn't do.

It's organized, it is spread through every Federal LEA and it violates numerous domestic laws and numerous statutes and treaties that deal with foreign nations. Yet none of it has been officially sanctioned. It's the FedGov acting like mafiosa.

0bama, Holder and Hillary Clinton are all deeply involved in this and it is state-sponsored terrorism. These criminal thugs are dragging our country down to the level of Tehran and Pyongyang.

47 posted on 07/06/2013 8:51:46 AM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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To: MestaMachine

Thanks for the ping.


48 posted on 07/07/2013 8:19:38 PM PDT by neverdem (Register pressure cookers! /s)
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