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Townhall.com ^ | July 4, 2013 | Jackie Gingrich Cushman

Posted on 07/04/2013 5:14:37 AM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 07/04/2013 5:14:37 AM PDT by Kaslin
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2 posted on 07/04/2013 5:17:16 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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3 posted on 07/04/2013 5:24:33 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Welcome to Obama-Land - EVERYTHING NOT FORBIDDEN IS COMPULSORY)
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To: Kaslin

Wanted to find an Egyptian flag to fly today, but thought of it too late.


4 posted on 07/04/2013 5:32:59 AM PDT by gotribe (Limit The Government's Right To Bear Arms)
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To: Kaslin
The Founders believed all Men were created equal. Lincoln acted as if government had the authority to keep everyone that way.

Worshiping the man that destroyed the Republic as if he were some kind of savior is more that just ironic....it's sickening.

5 posted on 07/04/2013 5:35:23 AM PDT by MamaTexan (I am a Person as defined by the Law of Nature, not a 'person' as defined by the laws of Man)
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To: Kaslin
This week, as we watch fireworks and eat hot dogs, we should pause and reflect on those who have sacrificed for our freedom and liberty.

That's what Memorial Day is for.

On Independence Day, it would be more productive for us to decide whether or not our government still derives a just power from the consent of the governed or if it has become destructive of these ends and requires alteration or abolition and the institution of a new government.

6 posted on 07/04/2013 5:41:29 AM PDT by EricT. (This post has been recorded and cataloged for your security.)
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Hear! Hear! Excellent point to ponder this Independence Day.


7 posted on 07/04/2013 5:47:02 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: MamaTexan
The civil war ended 150 years ago. Get over it.

CC

8 posted on 07/04/2013 5:50:27 AM PDT by Celtic Conservative (tease not the dragon for thou art crunchy when roasted and taste good with ketchup)
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To: MamaTexan

I used to idolize Lincoln... then I went on my own into the archives and read first hand about him... you are correct.

LLS


9 posted on 07/04/2013 5:55:48 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: Celtic Conservative
The civil war ended 150 years ago. Get over it.

'Get over' the shredding of the Constitution, the murder of the Republic and the deaths of almost a million Americans that were sacrificed in order to appease the perverted ego of a narcissistic megalomaniac?

NEVER!

10 posted on 07/04/2013 5:56:15 AM PDT by MamaTexan (I am a Person as defined by the Law of Nature, not a 'person' as defined by the laws of Man)
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To: MamaTexan
Have a nice day.

CC

11 posted on 07/04/2013 5:58:54 AM PDT by Celtic Conservative (tease not the dragon for thou art crunchy when roasted and taste good with ketchup)
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To: MamaTexan
You started the Civil War and you lost, get over it.

If you want to blame Lincoln then you should start at Washington with the Whiskey Rebellion. The was the first time a president put down a secessionist movement. Andrew Jackson threatened the same also to South Carolina. You Lost Causers don't know your history.

12 posted on 07/04/2013 6:02:47 AM PDT by Partisan Gunslinger
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If you want to blame Lincoln then you should start at Washington with the Whiskey Rebellion.

ROFLMAO!

During the Whiskey Rebellion, Hamilton accompanied Washington and clearly stated Governor MIfflin had the option of complying with Washington's Proclamation or leaving the Union

A proclamation was issued by the President, commanding the insurgents to disperse, while quotas of militia were called for from Pennsylvania, Virginia, Maryland, and New Jersey. These Governor Mifflin, of Pennsylvania, who seemed to be in sympathy with the insurgents, hesitated to call out. He was, however, forced either to do so, or to break with the central government, and the militia volunteered in greater numbers than were wanted, even members of the "Society of Friends" joining the force.
Alexander Hamilton

The Constiuonal provision declaring the FACT the federal government MUST have the permission of the State in order to enter it can be found in Article 4 section 4
The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence.

And on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive means the STATE governments, not the federal one.

It may not be amiss further to observe, that every pretext for intermeddling with the domestic concerns of any state, under colour of protecting it against domestic violence is taken away, by that part of the provision which renders an application from the legislative, or executive authority of the state endangered, necessary to be made to the federal government, before it's interference can be at all proper.
St. George Tucker, Blackstone's Commentaries (Annotated), 1803

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At the same time it is properly provided, in order that such interference may not wantonly or arbitrarily take place; that it shall only be on the request of the state authorities: otherwise the self-government of the state might be encroached upon at the pleasure of the Union, and a small state might fear or feel the effects of a combination of larger states against it under colour of constitutional authority;
William Rawle, A View of the Constitution of the United States, 1825

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……. (snip) The right of interposition must depend upon the special circumstances of the case. It is not susceptible of precise limitations, and is extremely delicate in the application. It must be submitted to the guidance of eminent discretion, and controlled by the principles of justice and sound policy. It would clearly be a violation of the law of nations to invite subjects to revolt who were under actual obedience, however just their complaints; or to endeavor to produce discontents, violence, and rebellion in neighboring states, and, under color of a generous assistance, to consummate projects of ambition and dominion.
James Kent , Commentaries on American Law, 1826

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§ 1819. It may not be amiss further to observe, (in the language of another commentator,) that every pretext for intermeddling with the domestic concerns of any state, under colour of protecting it against domestic violence, is taken away by that part of the provision, which renders an application from the legislative, or executive authority of the state endangered, necessary to be made to the federal government, before it's interference can be at all proper.
Joseph Story, Commentaries on the Constitution, 1833

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You Lost Causers don't know your history.

ROFLMAO! I wouldn't expect anyone who thinks the original Constitutional intent of the Founders is a 'lost cause' to have anything other than the government's 'educational' view of *history*.

If ignorance is bliss, you must be ecstatic.

13 posted on 07/04/2013 6:25:33 AM PDT by MamaTexan (I am a Person as defined by the Law of Nature, not a 'person' as defined by the laws of Man)
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Your journey sounds a great deal like my own. Sad that so many other people never question what they've been taught.

Accurate history can be a real eye-opener!

14 posted on 07/04/2013 6:28:00 AM PDT by MamaTexan (I am a Person as defined by the Law of Nature, not a 'person' as defined by the laws of Man)
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I think the case can be made that the Leftist counterrevolution was completed last week. The American Revolution is dead and gone.

Think about the Scotus ruling that condoned judge Vaughn Walker's decision on CA Prop 8.

The people of CA simply affirmed what all civilizations have known, that marriage = man + woman.

A single man overrode the legitimate will of tens of millions of sovereign people.

Outside of a few websites and talk radio, not a peep at the outrage.

Our nation as a whole has become acclimated to tyranny and most don't even know it.

15 posted on 07/04/2013 6:34:10 AM PDT by Jacquerie (To restore the 10th Amendment, repeal the 17th.)
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To: MamaTexan

The original founders intent was perpetual slavery? LOL


16 posted on 07/04/2013 6:51:55 AM PDT by Partisan Gunslinger
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To: MamaTexan
When Sumter was fired upon, all of that was negated. You started it, you lost, get over it.

The Union was saved, slavery was eliminated, our system of government was the same after as before (until Wilson and FDR), good for us.

17 posted on 07/04/2013 6:56:08 AM PDT by Partisan Gunslinger
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To: MamaTexan

States have power? Who’da guessed.


18 posted on 07/04/2013 7:08:27 AM PDT by gotribe (Limit The Government's Right To Bear Arms)
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Yes, studying real History... not revisionist lies... will open the eyes of anyone reading it.

LLS


19 posted on 07/04/2013 7:25:24 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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Can you photo shop him in a white shirt red shoes and blue lips?.


20 posted on 07/04/2013 7:32:31 AM PDT by Vaduz
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