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Lois Lerner wants full immunity for her testimony
American Thinker ^ | 07/03/2013 | Rick Moran

Posted on 07/03/2013 7:57:18 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

The IRS official at the center of the targeting controversy will testify before the House oversght committee as long as she gets full immunity from prosecution, one of her lawyers said yesterday.

Lois Lerner, the former head of the exempt section of the IRS that targeted conservative groups for extra scrutiny, took the fifth at her previous appearance before the committee right after she declared her innocence.

Republicans on the committee say that her statement of innocence meant that she waived her fifth amendment right to self incrimination and she should testify willingly.

From Politico:

"They can obtain her testimony tomorrow by doing it the easy way ... immunity," William W. Taylor III said in a phone interview. "That's the way to resolve all of this." The comments reflect the hard-line approach Lerner, the former head of the IRS division that scrutinized conservative groups, and her legal team are taking in defending her role in the agency's scandal."

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: cultureofcorruption; irs; loislerner; teaparty
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1 posted on 07/03/2013 7:57:18 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
No.

Hell, no.

2 posted on 07/03/2013 7:58:09 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who could have known that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional news?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Crank up ‘Ol Sparky!


3 posted on 07/03/2013 7:58:15 AM PDT by Obadiah (Inside of every Liberal beats the heart of a fascist yearning to reveal their true nature.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Slime! The poster child of the Obama Administration!


4 posted on 07/03/2013 7:58:39 AM PDT by Redleg Duke ("Madison, Wisconsin is 30 square miles surrounded by reality.", L. S. Dryfus)
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To: SeekAndFind

DON’T GIVE HER IMMUNITY UNTIL YOU KNOW WHAT SHE KNOWS!!


5 posted on 07/03/2013 7:58:47 AM PDT by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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To: SeekAndFind

She’s an arrogant government official who’s been after conservatives for over twenty years. She should testify or be found in contempt of Congress.


6 posted on 07/03/2013 7:59:47 AM PDT by cotton1706
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To: SeekAndFind

Once she’s given full immunity she’ll develop a case of Chicago Amnesia.Count on it.


7 posted on 07/03/2013 7:59:49 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Civil Servants Are No Longer Servants...Or Civil.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Maybe, if you KNOW she will directly implicate Jarrett/Obama/Emanuel/Axelrod.


8 posted on 07/03/2013 8:00:16 AM PDT by Obadiah (Inside of every Liberal beats the heart of a fascist yearning to reveal their true nature.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Oh, and she should be forced to resign her postion so the people don’t have to pay her anymore.


9 posted on 07/03/2013 8:00:17 AM PDT by cotton1706
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To: Mr. K

Immunity if she takes down the administration. And witness protection program.


10 posted on 07/03/2013 8:00:47 AM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Obama equals Osama))
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To: SeekAndFind

haul that bee-yotch before the committee and if she refuses to testify, charge her with contempt of congress.


11 posted on 07/03/2013 8:01:41 AM PDT by tgusa (gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger .......)
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To: SeekAndFind

Woman belongs in jail along with obammy.


12 posted on 07/03/2013 8:02:03 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) ( Hey Rubio, eat pooh pal))
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To: SeekAndFind

IF she claims she did nothing wrong, then she did everything right, what is there to prosecute?


13 posted on 07/03/2013 8:02:05 AM PDT by sweetiepiezer
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To: cotton1706

Sounds like she has quite a story to tell and it will probably happen in closed quarters because you know how....er...um...transparent this administration is.


14 posted on 07/03/2013 8:02:10 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: SeekAndFind

Full immunity????? So she can lie and say that no one else told her what to do, that she’s “fully to blame”, and now “you can’t prosecute me for everything I’ve just told you”!

Nahh, nahhh.


15 posted on 07/03/2013 8:02:23 AM PDT by LibFreeUSA
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To: Gay State Conservative

Just off hand I’d say Obama has found a patsy.


16 posted on 07/03/2013 8:02:48 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: SeekAndFind
she gets offered immunity and then lies to cover the obozo’s ass, then everybody in DC will be happy
17 posted on 07/03/2013 8:03:08 AM PDT by drypowder
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Innocent people do not need immunity. Guilty people do not deserve it,


18 posted on 07/03/2013 8:03:16 AM PDT by inpajamas (http://outskirtspress.com/ONE)
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To: SeekAndFind

This is why we need waterboarding.


19 posted on 07/03/2013 8:03:26 AM PDT by pallis
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To: SeekAndFind

Charles Krauthammer has said they should grant her immunity.


20 posted on 07/03/2013 8:03:29 AM PDT by Retired Chemist
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To: sweetiepiezer
"IF she claims she did nothing wrong,.."

\ .. then why does she say she needs 'full immunity'???

21 posted on 07/03/2013 8:03:34 AM PDT by LibFreeUSA
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To: LibFreeUSA

My initial thoughts as well.


22 posted on 07/03/2013 8:04:19 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,)
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To: Mr. K

> DON’T GIVE HER IMMUNITY UNTIL YOU KNOW WHAT SHE KNOWS!!

Yeah we cant agree with that until we know whats in it...Pelosi in an alternative universe where good is good and evil is evil...


23 posted on 07/03/2013 8:04:22 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: SeekAndFind

Give her immunity, prosecute her if she lies. I’m interested in what she has to say.


24 posted on 07/03/2013 8:04:41 AM PDT by bkepley
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To: SeekAndFind

That says a lot, doesn’t it?

Of course, we do know that Lois is an Obamadork selectee, and -

If: Obamadork selectee

Then: Sleazy, untalented, couldn’t hold a real job, and of course, liberal.


25 posted on 07/03/2013 8:05:04 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: SeekAndFind
Only if it is tied to her linking it to Obama and Dem leadership and you know in advance what she will give up. Otherwise NO!
26 posted on 07/03/2013 8:05:34 AM PDT by Lady Heron
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To: inpajamas

> Innocent people do not need immunity. Guilty people do not deserve it,

Well spoken, inpajamas


27 posted on 07/03/2013 8:06:07 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: gov_bean_ counter

She wants full immunity because she knows she’s GOT to testify, and she has nothing to cover her donkey!!!!


28 posted on 07/03/2013 8:06:29 AM PDT by LibFreeUSA
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To: SeekAndFind

She is asking for what is called “transactional immunity,” meaning the government is barred from prosecuting her at all. Transactional immunity is not recognized by the Feds and is never offered. Various Supreme Court decisions state that an offer of transactional immunity is not legally binding anyway. So unless she’s changed attorneys, which would have been a good idea, she is probably getting more bad advice to go for transactional immunity.

She can seek “use immunity,” which means that the statements she provides cannot be used against her in a prosecution. She can still be prosecuted, the government just cannot use what she says against her. There are two significant exceptions to the grant of use immunity. One is that use immunity does not apply in prosecutions for Perjury. Second, the use immunity goes away if she takes the stand in her criminal trial and testifies differently than what she said while under the grant of immunity. The contradictory statements are admissible for impeachment of credibility, and not substantively as evidence of guilt (but juries use it for that purpose anyway).


29 posted on 07/03/2013 8:07:01 AM PDT by henkster (The 0bama regime isn't a train wreck, it's a B 17 raid on the rail yard.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Cut off this bitch’s salary and any future benefits and toss her can in the can.


30 posted on 07/03/2013 8:07:58 AM PDT by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Jail her for contempt. She ALREADY waived her rights, so calling for immunity now is just a bit too late. . .


31 posted on 07/03/2013 8:08:35 AM PDT by Salgak (http://catalogoftehburningstoopid.blogspot.com 100% all-natural snark !)
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To: LibFreeUSA

Grant her immunity and hook her up to a polygraph. No polygraph; no immunity.


32 posted on 07/03/2013 8:09:52 AM PDT by Thom Pain (U.S. Constitution is a CONTRACT!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Throw her *ss in jail and let’s see what she knows and how fast she will tell her story. Play hard ball with her too, you cowards!


33 posted on 07/03/2013 8:10:57 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: Mr. K
“DON’T GIVE HER IMMUNITY UNTIL YOU KNOW WHAT SHE KNOWS!!”

Exactly.

34 posted on 07/03/2013 8:11:19 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: SeekAndFind

Give it too her. Once she goes against Chicago she’ll be looking over her shoulder for the rest of her life.


35 posted on 07/03/2013 8:11:47 AM PDT by Fido969
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To: SeekAndFind

The American people have watched Egypt rebel
against the American pRes_ _ent-by-fraud.

If the US Congress does not jail Ms. Lerner
for perjury and/or contempt of Congress,
they may just find that the public’s hate for THEM
and THEIR evil Betrayal of the Constitution,
is already beyond their wildest dreams.


36 posted on 07/03/2013 8:12:25 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: SeekAndFind

as long as she gets full immunity from prosecution
**********
She declared she was innocent, but wants immunity. She must have realized that underlings have turned on her to save their own arses.


37 posted on 07/03/2013 8:16:10 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: SeekAndFind

Absolutely! As long as she agrees to incriminate Ovomit and Holder.


38 posted on 07/03/2013 8:16:12 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: SeekAndFind

She can only get immunity if she details what she will testify to.

Then it might be feasible to just let the cards fall where they may.


39 posted on 07/03/2013 8:16:22 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Retired Chemist

I understand the thinking, but would suspect with immunity, she admits it was all her fault, all her idea, taking the fall for the entire Obama Administration, and gets free retirement.


40 posted on 07/03/2013 8:16:23 AM PDT by TimF
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To: Diogenesis

Give her immunity, she takes the blame, the Republicans press her, and Obama gives her a pardon.

No one sees this coming.


41 posted on 07/03/2013 8:17:33 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (The reason we own guns is to protect ourselves from those wanting to take our guns from us.)
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To: Diogenesis

Jail? no, her crimes against the Republic need death as punishment. Those who follow nust be put on notice...... screw with the Republic and you die


42 posted on 07/03/2013 8:18:05 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Who will shoot Liberty Valence?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Arrogant, lying b*tch.

Lois Lerner, the IRS official who set off the controversy, has said that she first learned of the BOLO list in June 2011, and that she ordered the partisan criteria to be removed immediately.

A misfired email from a U.S. Internal Revenue Service employee in Cincinnati alerted a number of Washington IRS officials that extra scrutiny was being placed on conservative groups in July 2010, a year earlier than previously acknowledged, according to interviews with IRS workers by congressional investigators.


43 posted on 07/03/2013 8:18:12 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: SeekAndFind

Refer it to the FBI for criminal charges...oh...yeah.


44 posted on 07/03/2013 8:21:07 AM PDT by SC_Pete
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To: SeekAndFind

It would be great to know who gave her the marching orders. If she lies under the immunity umbrella she’s looking at perjury. Might have to give up a little fish to get bigger ones.


45 posted on 07/03/2013 8:24:16 AM PDT by kenmcg (scapegoat)
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To: Mr. K

Absolutely...Ms. Lerner wants to give a carefully rehearsed version of “the truth” that is aimed at shifting blame away from herself and the White House. Too bad we don’t have a special prosecutor in this case, and it’s equally shameful that we have a politicized FBI that is “investigating.” I’m guessing there has been lots of back-door communications between Ms. Lerner, her superiors at the IRS and White House political operatives in recent weeks, to coordinate the story and ensure that potentially damaging evidence disappears.

Lerner needs to lead the parade of current and former IRS officials who will be going to jail.


46 posted on 07/03/2013 8:24:56 AM PDT by ExNewsExSpook
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To: SeekAndFind
Move the Congress to hold her in contempt. Republican majority will carry that vote. If a court fails to punish her for contempt, Republicans retain the issue.I am not nearly so pessimistic about obtaining a conviction for contempt, however.

Since Lerner has failed to make a proffer, the author is probably right, she has little to offer. But the committee is not without ammunition either. Besides the possible violations of laws cited, once the element of conspiracy is introduced any number of possible laws might have been broken. Lerner and lawyers must be very wary of this element because it is highly unlikely that she acted alone and the point of the investigation from a political point of view is to determine with whom it was she collaborated-or conspired.


47 posted on 07/03/2013 8:30:39 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: SeekAndFind

But, but she didn’t do anything wrong. She said so.


48 posted on 07/03/2013 8:31:21 AM PDT by goldi
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To: Obadiah

Agree - This woman has been involved in many nefarious deeds as a stealth bureaucrat. No gallows are high enough for such traitorous dogs.

http://dailycaller.com/2013/05/30/republican-who-ran-against-durbin-lois-lerner-told-me-never-to-run-for-office-again/


49 posted on 07/03/2013 8:35:03 AM PDT by Sioux-san
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To: SeekAndFind

This is the best summer I’ve had since I was a kid! If everything was going fine, they’d just be quiet. Democrats squirming like worms. I wonder if the outside money has been withdrawn?


50 posted on 07/03/2013 8:36:26 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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