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Bolivian minister: Evo Moralesí plane rerouted on suspicion Snowden on board
wapo ^ | 7/2/13 | ap

Posted on 07/02/2013 4:05:58 PM PDT by ColdOne

LA PAZ, Bolivia — The plane carrying Bolivian President Evo Morales home from Russia was rerouted to Austria on Tuesday after France and Portugal refused to let it cross their airspace because of suspicions that NSA leaker Edward Snowden was on board, the country’s foreign minister said.

Foreign Minister David Choquehuanca denied that Snowden was on the plane, which landed in Vienna, and said France and Portugal would have to explain why they canceled authorization for the plane.

“We don’t know who invented this lie. We want to denounce to the international community this injustice with the plane of President Evo Morales,” Choquehuanca said from Vienna, where the plane landed.

Morales met with Russian President Vladimir Putin during a summit of major gas exporters in the Kremlin.

Morales said in an interview with Russia Today television that Bolivia would be willing to consider granting asylum to Snowden.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: benghazi; bolivia; edwardsnowden; eu; eurabia; europeanunion; eussr; evo; fastandfurious; impeachnow; irs; morales; nsa; piracy; snowden
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1 posted on 07/02/2013 4:05:58 PM PDT by ColdOne
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To: ColdOne

Talk about a game of “hot potato”...


2 posted on 07/02/2013 4:09:18 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: ColdOne

You would think France would be grateful to Snowdon because he exposed that the US is spying on them.


3 posted on 07/02/2013 4:10:34 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: ColdOne

The plot thickens.


4 posted on 07/02/2013 4:12:46 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: ColdOne

I have to believe that Obama is somehow convincing these nations to aid the US in stopping Snowden from any more leaks of info...makes me wonder how what is in those files might be influencing other countries to jump on the “get Snowden” bandwagon.


5 posted on 07/02/2013 4:14:19 PM PDT by memyselfandi59
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To: memyselfandi59
...makes me wonder how what is in those files might be influencing other countries to jump on the “get Snowden” bandwagon.

The truth about Libya, Syria, and Egypt...

6 posted on 07/02/2013 4:17:54 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood ("Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???")
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To: memyselfandi59

Gosh, you’d think they are afraid he has cooties or something! (smile)


7 posted on 07/02/2013 4:20:49 PM PDT by dsutah
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To: memyselfandi59
"somehow convincing"

The math is pretty simple: if I harbor a citizen of another country who committed espionage against that country, then I have little chance that I will be able to ask other countries for help when I need to track down one of my own fugitives.

There are rules.

8 posted on 07/02/2013 4:21:15 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: ColdOne

I suspect that the Russians let this slip intentionally, so as to make the US look foolish, and embarrass those countries willing to cooperate with the US.


9 posted on 07/02/2013 4:25:12 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
I suspect that the Russians let this slip intentionally, so as to make the US look foolish, and embarrass those countries willing to cooperate with the US.

Well, if that was the intention, it worked.

10 posted on 07/02/2013 4:50:55 PM PDT by sockmonkey (Of Course I didn't read the article. After all, this is FreeRepublic..)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
Definitely truth about WMD going from Iraq to Syria with help of Russian scientists.

Bush/Cheney lied about it and kept it from public demanding they retrieve or replace Assad's regime, for whatever reason.

11 posted on 07/02/2013 5:01:12 PM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: ColdOne
“We don’t know who invented this lie. We want to denounce to the international community this injustice with the plane of President Evo Morales,” Choquehuanca said from Vienna, where the plane landed.

Could it be the US intel by any chance? Kind of funny how intel and idiot start with the same letter.

12 posted on 07/02/2013 5:45:12 PM PDT by SilverMine (ever member of congress should be horse whipped)
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To: ColdOne

Any follow-up stories? Did the Austrians search the plane?


13 posted on 07/02/2013 5:50:20 PM PDT by cookcounty (IRS = Internal Revenge Service.)
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To: ColdOne
Well, since he could be on any plane, France and Portugal need to divert every plane that enters their airspace.

After all he disclosed that since any phone call could be terrorist related the government needs to divert all of them through the NSA...

14 posted on 07/02/2013 6:03:08 PM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of oppression, and the democrats gleefully use them!)
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To: wideawake

Yup, that’s how it works . . . and don’t forget the brownie-point factor.


15 posted on 07/02/2013 6:06:29 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: ColdOne

Put snowmen on a fishing boat in the Bering. Send him to Juneau and sign him up for welfare under a fake name. They’ll never find him


16 posted on 07/02/2013 6:11:12 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: ColdOne

So, all the other ‘sorry I got caught’ actors in the regime haven’t been fired, just reassigned.

Makes one wonder.


17 posted on 07/02/2013 6:16:37 PM PDT by glock rocks (Stand up!)
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To: rawhide

You’d think France would be grateful to learn they were worth spying on.


18 posted on 07/02/2013 7:04:53 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: cookcounty
Any follow-up stories? Did the Austrians search the plane?

Probably not. Both questions.

19 posted on 07/02/2013 7:06:14 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: ColdOne
What say do France and Portugal have in this?


20 posted on 07/02/2013 7:29:25 PM PDT by Gamecock ("Ultimately, Jesus died to save us from the wrath of God." ¬óR.C. Sproul)
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To: ColdOne
"Morales met with Russian President Vladimir Putin during a summit of major gas exporters in the Kremlin."

So THAT'S where Baraq went.

21 posted on 07/02/2013 7:37:06 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Army dad. And damned proud of it.)
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To: ColdOne

Has anyone seen that this has been confirmed by either France or Portugal?


22 posted on 07/02/2013 7:38:36 PM PDT by Girlene (Hey, NSA!)
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To: Gamecock

Possibly flight plans that had to refile a little East for Jet Stream adjustments or something? Or a 48-craft POSHITUS airavan plaguing out of Africa like locusts?


23 posted on 07/02/2013 7:45:40 PM PDT by txhurl (RNC 'voter suppression': attempting to limit each voter to ONE vote!)
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To: rawhide
You would think France would be grateful to Snowdon because he exposed that the US is spying on them.

Uh..They are monitoring and spying on you too.

24 posted on 07/03/2013 12:14:17 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: ColdOne

This story makes no geogrphical sense.


25 posted on 07/03/2013 12:17:55 AM PDT by jimjohn
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To: wideawake; memyselfandi59
The math is pretty simple: if I harbor a citizen of another country who committed espionage against that country, then I have little chance that I will be able to ask other countries for help when I need to track down one of my own fugitives.

What??

It's was the U.S. government doing the espionage on that country which is harboring the person who ratted out the country committing espionage, which was the U.S. government.

LOL!

26 posted on 07/03/2013 12:21:57 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: ColdOne
LOL! Hapless Bolivian president humiliated by the Won! And for no steenkin' reason!

I'm sure there must be an upside to such brilliant, French-looking foreign diplomacy, but it escapes me.

Even when Obama's not trying to cut the United States down to size, he successfully cuts the United States down to size.

27 posted on 07/03/2013 12:28:35 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: ColdOne

France? Interesting.


28 posted on 07/03/2013 12:50:54 AM PDT by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......? Embrace a ruler today.)
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To: rawhide
You would think France would be grateful to Snowdon because he exposed that the US is spying on them.

You would think that except Snowdon may know about a lot of government sins and not just the US govt. sins. Do you really think the govt. of France has been squeaky clean over the years ?

29 posted on 07/03/2013 1:45:59 AM PDT by staytrue
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To: ColdOne

This is what happens when Barry and John both go overseas and leave Slow Joe running things.


30 posted on 07/03/2013 2:54:57 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy ("New Yorks Finest" are now "The Untouchables")
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To: jimjohn
It makes perfect sense. The Bolivian Presidential Falcon 900 can't make Moscow to La Paz in one hop, so it was going to refuel in Portugal.

While in the air, Portugal announced it would not to be allowing to enter their air space. France followed.

That left FAB1 orbiting above Austria for 3 hours until low fuel forced a landing.

31 posted on 07/03/2013 3:14:44 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy ("New Yorks Finest" are now "The Untouchables")
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To: Oztrich Boy

Okay, I’ll buy that. Next we should confirm this from the Portuguese and French side. Assuming its true, by denying airspace, aren’t the pretty much giving a ‘heads up’ to that place not to land here because...well... ‘drones have eyes’ ?


32 posted on 07/03/2013 4:39:10 AM PDT by jimjohn
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To: Oztrich Boy
Updated report from the AP

If this story holds up (note I take anything from state-sponsored/monitored media with a grain of salt these days), this sounds like a little fishing and possible bait/switch operation by the Christians In Action over at Langley to try to smoke out Snowden's location. Meaning like me, they're not buying the 'hiding-in-a-russian-airport' line.

Like I said in a previous post, for all we know, Dude could be chilling just south of 8-Mile in Detriot for all we know. I also suspect that despite media reports, the U.S. probably isn't getting the help they're expecting from some of our 'allies'.

On another note, some of us on the tin-foil-hat brigade have been suspecting what dirty secrets they must be worried about to go through all this trouble. Some say it could be information about a certain birthplace. I'd call that small potatoes. No, it would have to be something bigger - something say... they could NOT spin their way out of...

e.g. The U.S. Treasury has no plans to make good on T-bills owned by foreigners (debt repudiation); the plan to wipe out all 401K's(Greek haircut - American style), or the real number of Americans that have denounced their citizenship in other countries(and moved assets offshore), possibly something about the last national elections... ya know - something major like that.

And to the NSA, et al: I'm just speculating. I have no inside knowledge, so don't blame me for leaking this if it happens to be true.

33 posted on 07/03/2013 5:00:52 AM PDT by jimjohn
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To: ColdOne
Pooty Poot is playing 0bama like a Stradivarius.

5.56mm

34 posted on 07/03/2013 5:03:58 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: ColdOne

That kid is dead.

The response indicates that he is closer to the truth than many here suggest.


35 posted on 07/03/2013 5:17:39 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: ColdOne

Snowden is doing a good job of separating the Conservatives from the “Snowden is a traitor” Hussein Heads at FR for us lately.


36 posted on 07/03/2013 5:33:59 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: jimjohn
This story makes no geogrphical sense.

According to the story the plane in question is a Dassault Falcon. It was probably planning on a refueling stop in Portugal or the Azores before continuing on to Bolivia. I doubt it has the range to make it from Moscow to LaPaz non-stop.

37 posted on 07/03/2013 5:52:43 AM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: dragnet2
If the US was holding a Russian who spied for China against Russia and was under indictment, Russia would request extradition.

We would likely refuse to hand him over to Russia, and would also likely refuse to grant him asylum.

In other words, we would be telling Russia that we understand where they're coming from but that we will not act as an extension of the Russian government.

That's exactly what Russia is doing now with regards to the US.

38 posted on 07/03/2013 6:00:08 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: memyselfandi59

I think maybe they dont want to get scorn of Obama. I also think many countries DO want Snowden to release more info on US international spying on them. Once Snowden start flapping his lips about international matters the game changed.


39 posted on 07/03/2013 6:01:43 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: plain talk

It’s obvious. Adolf Hitler, in his Bolivian lair, wants the hi-tech assistance of Mr. Snowden. <8^0


40 posted on 07/03/2013 6:08:40 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: ColdOne

I guess France and Portugal got a memo from the Dictator in Sodom on the Potomac about this guy. Let him fly over and the free money is cut off.


41 posted on 07/03/2013 6:09:27 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (1 Cor 15: 50-54 & 1 Thess 4: 13-17. That about covers it.)
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To: cookcounty

If that plane carried the president of another country, they cannot come aboard. It is their territory and you cannot come in.


42 posted on 07/03/2013 6:13:15 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (1 Cor 15: 50-54 & 1 Thess 4: 13-17. That about covers it.)
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To: ColdOne

I detect the hand of National Security Advisor, Susan Rice. Mr. Obama is too busy giving speeches in Africa.


43 posted on 07/03/2013 6:21:01 AM PDT by popdonnelly (The right to self-defense is older than the Constitution.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

I think Putin is playing with Obama and I also think he is using Snowden as part of his cat and mouse with Obama....Snowden could be in a Russian submarine right now on his way to “freedom”; I find it hard to believe a little thing like a lack of a legitimate passport for Snowden is a problem for someone like Putin.


44 posted on 07/03/2013 7:06:01 AM PDT by homegroan (Never make someone a priority when all you are to them is an option....)
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To: treetopsandroofs

Snowden is doing a good job of separating the Conservatives from the “Snowden is a traitor” Hussein Heads at FR for us lately.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Its obvious that the Obama fascisti are shaken by Snowden’s
potential for destroying them.What a flap they are making over an alleged kid spy that ordinarily would not raise even an eye brow, hell the Muslim Brotherhood gets more information from Obama than even Snowden had.

It is clear that the Obama administration has been abrogating the US constitution and the proof is at hand.

I hope Snowden discloses all he can, particularly about Benghazi.


45 posted on 07/03/2013 8:39:01 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: wideawake
The math is pretty simple: if I harbor a citizen of another country who committed espionage against that country, then I have little chance that I will be able to ask other countries for help when I need to track down one of my own fugitives.

What??

It's was the U.S. government doing the espionage on that country which is harboring the person who ratted out the country committing espionage, which was the U.S. government.

Too funny..

This isn't about Snowden..It's about the U.S. government spying on everyone, including law abiding U.S. citizens...

wow...

You dance duck and spin real good!

46 posted on 07/03/2013 8:40:45 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: rawhide

“You would think France would be grateful to Snowdon because he exposed that the US is spying on them.”

They’re grateful but this is just a diplomacy act for the US.


47 posted on 07/03/2013 8:46:26 AM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company after the election, & laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: dragnet2
You don't understand basic international relations.

That isn't my fault.

48 posted on 07/03/2013 8:47:18 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake

International relations?

Sounds so formal...

You mean how they spy on, rob and kill each other right?

lol...


49 posted on 07/03/2013 9:01:56 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: RetiredArmy

If that plane carried the president of another country, they cannot come aboard. It is their territory and you cannot come in.


Really! Didn’t know that. So do we know if the plane was searched or not?


50 posted on 07/03/2013 9:19:59 AM PDT by txhurl (RNC 'voter suppression': attempting to limit each voter to ONE vote!)
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