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Bush on Snowden: ‘He damaged the security of the country’
Yahoo News ^ | Dylan Stableford

Posted on 07/01/2013 8:30:29 AM PDT by USS Johnston

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To: null and void
Then doesn't it follow that using the military against US citizens is a direct violation of Posse Comitatus Act?

"Against"?

The Act states "it shall not be lawful to employ any part of the Army of the United States, as a posse comitatus, or otherwise, for the purpose of executing the laws."

Even if the NSA were a part of the Army - which it is not - collecting data is not "executing the laws."

301 posted on 07/02/2013 12:53:11 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake; servantboy777; USS Johnston
Even if the NSA were a part of the Army - which it is not - collecting data is not "executing the laws."

Nor apparently the 4th Amendment, in your mind anyway.

Or were you going for since unwarranted mass searches and seizures are illegal, doing them isn't technically enforcing the law?

BTW, why didn't you quote

10 U.S.C. § 375. Restriction on direct participation by military personnel

The Secretary of Defense shall prescribe such regulations as may be necessary to ensure that any activity (including the provision of any equipment or facility or the assignment or detail of any personnel) under this chapter does not include or permit direct participation by a member of the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps in a search, seizure, arrest, or other similar activity unless participation in such activity by such member is otherwise authorized by law.

Was that because you said "Its current director is an Army general, but his predecessor was Air Force."?
302 posted on 07/02/2013 1:02:32 PM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of oppression, and the democrats gleefully use them!)
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To: GraceG

that works for me


303 posted on 07/02/2013 1:11:21 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: null and void
Nor apparently the 4th Amendment, in your mind anyway.

These questions exist externally from my mind, in court decisions.

Was that because you said "Its current director is an Army general, but his predecessor was Air Force."?

No, it was because the question at issue is whether this voluntary sharing is actually a "search and seizure."

304 posted on 07/02/2013 1:12:51 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake

I don’t recall volunteering to share any of my contact information, internet traffic, texts or voice communications with anyone but the intended recipients.

Did you?


305 posted on 07/02/2013 1:16:13 PM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of oppression, and the democrats gleefully use them!)
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To: null and void
I don’t recall volunteering to share any of my contact information, internet traffic, texts or voice communications with anyone but the intended recipients. Did you?

I remember signing a service contract with my telecom provider, and my cable provider and I remember agreeing to the terms of use of iTunes and hotmail.

Perhaps I should not have been so quick to sign off.

But I do like those services.

306 posted on 07/02/2013 1:20:18 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: GraceG

It seems like the longer GWB is away from public view the more unpopular he becomes. That silly billboard “Miss Me Yet?” just doesn’t cut it. I am hoping that the animus against GWB will hold back Jebbie, but then I get discouraged thinking of all those Republican primary voters out there.


307 posted on 07/02/2013 1:24:45 PM PDT by Theodore R. ("Hey, the American people must all be crazy out there!")
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To: USS Johnston

Wouldn’t it be something if GWB “converted” to Islam? It could be a “Stockholm syndrome”.


308 posted on 07/02/2013 1:26:27 PM PDT by Theodore R. ("Hey, the American people must all be crazy out there!")
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To: Theodore R.

It seems like the longer GWB is away from public view the more unpopular he becomes. That silly billboard “Miss Me Yet?” just doesn’t cut it. I am hoping that the animus against GWB will hold back Jebbie, but then I get discouraged thinking of all those Republican primary voters out there.

I miss that with Bush the car was only heading towards the cliff at 55mph and not at 120mph like it is with Obama....


309 posted on 07/02/2013 1:39:42 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: Theodore R.

Wouldn’t it be something if GWB “converted” to Islam? It could be a “Stockholm syndrome”.

If you have read about the actual city of stockholm recently your statement is made doubly ironic....


310 posted on 07/02/2013 1:40:52 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: Obadiah

Exactly. And Bush is more than happy to do that. I have no use for the guy whatsoever.


311 posted on 07/02/2013 1:47:18 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Breaking News: Hillary not running in 2016. Brain tumor found during recent colonoscopy...)
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To: GraceG

Public opinion polls show Bush becoming MORE popular but his Snowden comments might stop that trend dead in its tracks.

“In the ex-presidency game, there’s a lot to be said for sitting at home quietly and letting the new guy take his lumps.

Aside from the occasional presidential library to open or first pitch to throw out, chilling out at home with the missus seems to have been former President George W. Bush’s legacy-building gameplan since leaving office in 2008.
According to a major national poll released Tuesday, that strategy is paying off for W.

Gallup pollsters announced Tuesday that the last Bush in office is more popular than our sitting president. Forty-nine percent of Americans now see Bush in favorable terms, compared to 47 percent for President Barack Obama.

Bush’s 49/45 approval-to-disapproval rating split in the new poll also is the first time since 2005 – not-so-coincidentally the same year as Hurricane Katrina – that more Americans say they approve of his presidency than don’t. It’s also a major uptick from his favorability rating low of 35 percent in March 2009. (His high: 87% two months after the 9/11 attacks in 2001).”
http://blog.sfgate.com/hottopics/2013/06/12/look-whos-mr-popularity-again-bush-now-more-popular-than-obama/


312 posted on 07/02/2013 3:09:42 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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To: USS Johnston

Yet people constantly defend the n.o.w. POS on this website.Just nutts I tell ya.


313 posted on 07/02/2013 3:24:27 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: wideawake

Um...rright, Snowden is evil for having exposed the un-Constitutional police state spying upon U.S. citizens.

Bad to have exposed the lawless and illegal behavior of the wannabe dictator in chief.

And in other news, Bush proves himself still the idiot he long behaved as. Earning the dislike of both sides of the political spectrum.


314 posted on 07/02/2013 7:13:48 PM PDT by OldArmy52 (The question is not whether Obama ever lies, but whether he ever tells the truth.)
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To: wideawake

Surely, you will be safe, wideawake. Right?


315 posted on 07/02/2013 7:55:20 PM PDT by RedHeeler
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To: USS Johnston

One can’t damage America worse that the regime is doing on a day to day basis.

I never voted for W in the primaries. I only voted against gore and Kerry in the general.
Happy when he attacked Afghanistan but was and still am not sure we weren’t getting jerked around in Iraq and finishing daddy’s mistake.

But the family must now stay out of republican politics. Join the Dhimmicrat party george and jeb. You fit better there


316 posted on 07/03/2013 9:36:59 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Vaquero

F the Bushes.

Bush I had to get UN permission for his war.
Bush I resigned his NRA membership when someone from the NRA quoted a Congressman who rightly denounced the “jack-booted thugs” in government.
Bush I lied about taxes.

Bush II said islam is peaceful.
Bush II spent trillions of $$ and thousands of lives in a un-necessary Iraqi war.
Bush II created the Nazi-esque Department of Homeland Security,including the TSA.
Bush II did little if anything I remember to rein in government.
Bush II promoted a bailout of failed corporations using tax monies.
Bush II said he would sign any gun-control law Congress sent him.
Bush II did not use “the bully pulpit” to promote the American Constitution and freedom.
Bush Ii actually grew the federal government.He inserted more federal control in schools.

Bushes are pro one-worlders and not to be trusted any more than other socialists .

Bush II said he and clintoon are brothers.

No more Bushes.
Ever.


317 posted on 07/03/2013 10:02:58 AM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: servantboy777; wideawake
You just accused Snowden of giving foreign powers military secrets...this has not been reported.

I have not read anything that indicated he passed on military secrets. So, do you have a link to this? What I understand, Snowden released info regarding NSA spying on it's own citizens.

Eye-Wide Shut will keep on parroting the "official" narrative of the media/.guv apologists.

Where is such "evidence" of passing "military secrets" and to what degree of detriment? WHERE IS THE LINK??

Moreover, the most damaging revelation is to the credibility and integrity of 0blabla and his fascist Machine: WE THE PEOPLE have been the target of Alphabet agency investigations and surveillance -- all of which are unjustified AND unconstitutional.

318 posted on 07/03/2013 11:50:30 AM PDT by USS Johnston (Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be bought at the price of chains & slavery? - Patrick Henry)
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To: null and void; wideawake; servantboy777
Then doesn't it follow that using the military against US citizens on American soil is a direct violation of Posse Comitatus Act?

Oooops! Nice trap. Exposed: The backdoor violation of the Posse Comitatus Act

319 posted on 07/03/2013 11:52:52 AM PDT by USS Johnston (Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be bought at the price of chains & slavery? - Patrick Henry)
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To: wideawake; null and void
The Act states "it shall not be lawful to employ any part of the Army of the United States, as a posse comitatus, or otherwise, for the purpose of executing the laws."

What "law" supports the violation of the 4th Amendment? The cyber-invasion without justifiable cause of the property of US Citizenry is ILLEGAL.

320 posted on 07/03/2013 11:55:56 AM PDT by USS Johnston (Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be bought at the price of chains & slavery? - Patrick Henry)
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