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Chicago prepares for new concealed carry gun law
Yahoo News ^ | 28 Jun 2013 | DON BABWIN

Posted on 06/28/2013 3:12:20 PM PDT by mandaladon

CHICAGO (AP) — This city, where violent street gangs shoot it out dozens of times a week despite some of the nation's toughest restrictions on guns, now faces a new challenge: Well-meaning citizens with the legal right to hit the streets with loaded firearms, whenever they want.

As Illinois Gov. Pat Quinn mulls whether to sign off on eliminating the country's last concealed carry ban, the question in Chicago is whether it will matter in the crime-weary city. Will a place that long had some of the nation's tightest restrictions on handguns be more at risk? Or will it be safer with a law that can only add to the number of guns already on the street?

Neighborhood leaders, anti-crime activists and police officials worry about additional mayhem in Chicago. But other residents, including some who live in Chicago's more violent areas, believe more guns will allow them to defend themselves better.

"We just had a weekend where something like 48 people were shot, seven died," said Otis McDonald, 79, one of the plaintiffs in the lawsuit that ended with the U.S. Supreme Court tossing out Chicago's strict gun ban three years ago. "Now law abiding citizens like myself ... can carry them when they want to and not carry them when they don't want to, and the people out there who will do us harm won't know when we got them and when we don't."

At City Hall, where Chicago's anti-gun campaign has centered for years, the reaction to concealed carry legislation has been relatively quiet. The reasons seem to boil down to this: The city can do little about stopping the law because a federal appeals court ordered Illinois to end its public possession ban by this summer.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: guncontrol; guns; secondamendment
It's time to even the playing field between law abiding citizens and criminals.
1 posted on 06/28/2013 3:12:20 PM PDT by mandaladon
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To: mandaladon

I think that what REALLY scares liberal politicians in Chicago (as well as libs across the nation)? What if violent crime rates go down?


2 posted on 06/28/2013 3:15:33 PM PDT by mandaladon (The truth about Benghazi is all I want)
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To: mandaladon
This city, where violent street gangs shoot it out dozens of times a week despite some of the nation's toughest restrictions on guns, now faces a new challenge: Well-meaning citizens with the legal right to hit the streets with loaded firearms, whenever they want.

Because in every other state that passed shall issue concealed carry laws saw an immediate increase in street corner shoot-outs between angry motorists who got cut off.

</sarc>

3 posted on 06/28/2013 3:16:15 PM PDT by Yo-Yo
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To: mandaladon

And to tell him that he will put away those incriminating pictures until next time he needs them.


4 posted on 06/28/2013 3:17:10 PM PDT by thorvaldr
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To: mandaladon

Look for the MSM to be all over the first case of someone protecting themselves.

MSM will not note the crime rate dropping.

MSM is bought and paid for by 0.


5 posted on 06/28/2013 3:17:21 PM PDT by hadaclueonce (dont worry about Mexico, put the fence around kalifornia.)
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To: mandaladon

The ballerina needs to patrol the South Side weekend nights to achieve weapon compliance.


6 posted on 06/28/2013 3:17:43 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: mandaladon

The only change is that law abiding citizens might have a gun now in the mix on Chicago streets. Might make for a bit more polite society after a couple of more night of street violence as usual in the windy city.

Bullies really are cowards. They tend not to instigate violence if there is any chance of them being hurt. And now any 70 year old granny can kick their rears. I can hear the sighs of remorse from the young dumb and stupid ranks already.


7 posted on 06/28/2013 3:17:59 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: mandaladon

RIIIIGHT....

we saw how well that worked out for cracker Zimmerman...once he shot the graham cracker...


8 posted on 06/28/2013 3:18:42 PM PDT by Caliban (Politics is war conducted by other means...)
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To: thorvaldr

Does that sound senseless? You bet it does! Somehow got posted to completely the wrong thread, sorry folks.


9 posted on 06/28/2013 3:19:11 PM PDT by thorvaldr
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To: mandaladon

When I was in Mexico it was far, far worse than the way Hollywood portrays the 1870’s wild, wild west. It was obvious that if Mexicans were allowed to carry concealed that the violence would be reduced. The bad guys ride up and down the street shooting people. (While I was there they killed four school kids in their uniforms in a drive-by.) Just after I left there was a two hour shootout between gangs in a major shopping mall. (I’d been to that mall.) If everybody had the right to guns that shootout would have been considerable shorter or, more likely, would not have happened in the first place.

Jessie James’s gang was essentially ended by the citizens of a small town who all ran to the bank he was robbing and opened fire on him. (Yeah, it did go on for a short time after that, but that was essentially his finish.)


10 posted on 06/28/2013 3:20:12 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: mandaladon

So are they telling us the twits in Chicago are dumber or less responsible then 99.9% of the rest of the Country? Everyone has managed this without it causing any problems at all.


11 posted on 06/28/2013 3:20:41 PM PDT by Kozak (The Republic is dead. I do not owe what we have any loyalty, wealth or sympathy.)
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To: mandaladon

Most of the killings are felon-on-felon, so CCW would not be a factor. I’m hoping that it will reduce popularity of “knockout game”


12 posted on 06/28/2013 3:21:45 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: mandaladon
If crime rate goes down they can admit they were wrong.
HAH, who am I kidding.
13 posted on 06/28/2013 3:23:03 PM PDT by MaxMax (If you're not pissed off, you're not paying attention)
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To: mandaladon
It's time to even the playing field between law abiding citizens and criminals.

The real criminals are the lib politicians who seek a populace of unarmed victims, and understand fully well the implications of their "anti-gun" false arguments. The actual armed perps on the streets are merely the shock-troops of these mafia-like overlords hiding behind suits and ties.
14 posted on 06/28/2013 3:24:49 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: MaxMax

Chicago has one of the toughest gun control laws and it leads the nation in murders. Liberals can’t explain that.


15 posted on 06/28/2013 3:26:12 PM PDT by mandaladon (The truth about Benghazi is all I want)
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To: mandaladon

I think that what REALLY scares liberal politicians in Chicago (as well as libs across the nation)? What if violent crime rates go down?


You’re right. They don’t want the violent crime rates to go down.


16 posted on 06/28/2013 3:28:10 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: mandaladon

So what are liberals in Chicago worried about? The criminals all have illegal guns already...and the liberals worry about law abiding citizens carrying a gun?


17 posted on 06/28/2013 3:30:26 PM PDT by mandaladon (The truth about Benghazi is all I want)
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To: mandaladon

The Chicago Way—

Untouchables, thanks Sean Connery:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOvH-7lcjb0


18 posted on 06/28/2013 3:36:20 PM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: mandaladon

This might actually result in Chicago having some shooters that know how to hold a pistol upright.


19 posted on 06/28/2013 3:42:08 PM PDT by CrazyIvan (I'm so conservative I won't even wear progresive bifocals.)
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To: mandaladon

It is the number of available criminals, not the number of guns that drive crime statistics. Arming law abiding citizens will not drive up the stats and will likely save some lives.


20 posted on 06/28/2013 3:42:52 PM PDT by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
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To: mandaladon
Chicago has one of the toughest gun control laws and it leads the nation in murders. Liberals can’t explain that.

Actually, in their minds they can. It's because of guns coming into the city from the surrounding towns who have "lax" laws. It's how they rationalize making their perverted view into state law and how they browbeat surrounding states, particularly Indiana, to adopt the same bizarre attitude toward guns.

21 posted on 06/28/2013 3:51:54 PM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: facedown

And the lib lightweights won’t mention the Mexican cartel channel sending guns, drugs to Chi-land.


22 posted on 06/28/2013 5:05:30 PM PDT by TheBigJ
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To: Gen.Blather

Believe me, the Chicago area is chock full of Mexicans, and they are ALL armed. Mexican gangs are the dominant gangs in the Chicago area. The Mexican drug cartels call most of the shots in the Chicago area.


23 posted on 06/28/2013 5:29:33 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: facedown
It's because of guns coming into the city from the surrounding towns who have "lax" laws.

And that is why they don't have a drug problem - drugs are illegal everywhere. Simple logic...

24 posted on 06/28/2013 5:34:01 PM PDT by LearnsFromMistakes (Yes, I am happy to see you. But that IS a gun in my pocket.)
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To: mandaladon
I think that what REALLY scares liberal politicians in Chicago (as well as libs across the nation)? What if violent crime rates go down?

They'll attribute the decrease in violent crime to President You Didn't Build That's leadership, plus Joey "the Genius" Biden's self-defense lessons on television.

25 posted on 06/28/2013 6:04:09 PM PDT by Standing Wolf
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To: mandaladon

Blood in the streets!

Oh, wait...

It will be very interesting to see what happens to the crime rate.


26 posted on 06/28/2013 10:01:23 PM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: Standing Wolf

Get a shotgun!


27 posted on 06/28/2013 10:01:53 PM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: mandaladon

IL is one of the last of the old time slave states. It’s America’s North Korea. This is a big deal. No IL pol wants to give their slave a gun. It might lead to other ideas and foreign ways of thinking. Things like liberty may be taken seriously. This is a real threat to the Combine.


28 posted on 06/29/2013 2:32:44 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: PapaBear3625

Yep, the focus on murder is a distraction. That’s why the left uses it. The reality of CC is that it lowers petty crime, and less than murder felonies, the vast majority of which never need a cop.

Crime statistics in Chicago are joke and likely a tenth of what the real crime rate is. They have to show up to a murder, otherwise they avoid taking a police report. I suspect it’s the same in every major city in the world, at least the ones run by libs.


29 posted on 06/29/2013 2:37:23 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD
IL is one of the last of the old time slave states. It’s America’s North Korea. This is a big deal. No IL pol wants to give their slave a gun. It might lead to other ideas and foreign ways of thinking. Things like liberty may be taken seriously. This is a real threat to the Combine.

The Left is in love with the idea of being able to intimidate people who don't agree, whether with mobs showing up at your home, or some union thug threatening to break your legs.

An unarmed man is easier to intimidate with discreet or indiscreet threats. An armed man can only be pushed so far.

30 posted on 06/29/2013 5:06:31 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: CrazyIvan

There is a reason for holding the pistol sideways. That’s the way it comes in the box! CI, I’ve had the left turn signals disabled on my cars for years. I can relate.


31 posted on 06/29/2013 5:10:58 AM PDT by vortec94
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To: laplata; mandaladon
You’re right. They don’t want the violent crime rates to go down.

If the crime rates go down they won't need as many UNION cops. See how that works.

32 posted on 06/29/2013 5:53:55 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: mandaladon
I think that what REALLY scares liberal politicians in Chicago (as well as libs across the nation)? What if violent crime rates go down?

This is exactly what the liberals were saying when Florida went from the "Castle Doctrine" to "Stand Your Ground". The media was full of the opinions that Florida will turn into the Wild West. However; they had to admit that violent crime rates DID go down within the first 6 months. Facts are a terrible thing to liberals, it shows them just how wrong they are on so many things.

33 posted on 06/29/2013 10:02:57 AM PDT by Traveler59 ( Truth is a journey, not a destination.)
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To: vortec94
I am always so embarrassed when there is a simple explanation and I have missed it.
34 posted on 06/29/2013 2:24:52 PM PDT by CrazyIvan (I'm so conservative I won't even wear progressive bifocals.)
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To: American in Israel

Not only have there been hundreds of deaths involving mainly people who know each other and are involved in crime but there have been violent flash mobs attacking total strangers who have done nothing to them. A surprise pistol will dampen the enthusiam of those street thugs.


35 posted on 06/30/2013 12:39:37 PM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: SpaceBar

You can bet that the politicians and the judges who keep giving the hoods a slap on the wrist are probably cashing in on the gangs ill-gotten gains.


36 posted on 06/30/2013 12:43:58 PM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: mandaladon

It’s the Puritans fault, remember?


37 posted on 06/30/2013 12:44:39 PM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: ought-six

Most of the drugs today come through Mexico so of course the Mexican cartels would be running the show.


38 posted on 06/30/2013 12:47:33 PM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: 1010RD

Murders make headlines that’s why the politicians can’t ignore them.


39 posted on 06/30/2013 12:49:44 PM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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