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House says IRS official waived rights, contempt possible
Chicago Tribune ^ | 28 Jun 2013 | Kim Dixon

Posted on 06/28/2013 2:08:32 PM PDT by mandaladon

Edited on 06/28/2013 3:28:58 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - An IRS official effectively waived her right not to testify about the tax agency's targeting of conservative groups, a Republican-led congressional committee concluded on Friday in a vote that cleared the way for Congress to hold her in contempt.


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TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Government
KEYWORDS: 5thamendment; alreadyposted; congress; contempt; contemptofcongress; corruption; democrats; gowdy; irs; irsscandal; irsscandals; issa; lerner; loislerner; obama; scandals; search; searchisyourfriend; treygowdy
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To: funfan
Ref:"old Rockford Files episode" & taking the 5th Amendment, testifying before a Grand Jury, or Congress. The most important FACT of that episode was when he invoked his 5th Amendment "Right", he was immediately tossed into jail, for "Contempt of Court," his lawyer gets him out via the summons / subpoena was improper, due to name or address if I remember correctly.

When served with a proper summons / subpoena, and the prosecutor, conducting the Grand Jury asks the first question something to the effect of "is your name Jim Rockford," he invokes his 5th Amendment. Then proceeds, trying to get Jim Rockford to answer any question, like "Your such a criminal that you have to invoke your 5th Amendment, and so on.

Once you answer any questions, ding, ding, ding we have a winner, you must answer the questions or face "Contempt of Court" {"Contempt of Congress"} for which there is no time limit in jail, that is until the next Grand Jury {"Congress"} convenes, then they could haul you back into the new Grand Jury {"Congress"}, and if you answer to your name, but take the 5th Amendment, on some question(s), then back to jail with you.

In that episode, after taking the 5th Amendment, and the prosecutor berating him, the prosecutor excuses him from the "Witness Stand," it was then, he asked for permission from the judge if he could make a statement, and was granted permission, he made his speech if you will.

41 posted on 06/28/2013 11:46:44 PM PDT by Stanwood_Dave ("Testilying." Cop's don't lie, they just Testily{ing} as taught in their respected Police Academy.)
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To: mandaladon

A charge of contempt of congress? Wouldn’t that make her....American?


42 posted on 06/29/2013 6:38:10 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: mandaladon
IRS should be abolished!
43 posted on 06/29/2013 8:10:58 AM PDT by Drawn7979
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To: mandaladon

Maybe Ms. Lerner just thinks the rules are different for her than the common people.


44 posted on 06/29/2013 8:44:03 AM PDT by AtlasStalled
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To: Regulator

“The plan is not to jail her, but threaten to.”

You got it, but they’ll need something, or a lot of somethings that add up to a lot more than 1 yr and a $1,000.

Then again, if they just make her KEEP talking, they’ll Get those other things.


45 posted on 06/29/2013 9:35:10 AM PDT by To-Whose-Benefit? (It is Error alone which needs the support of Government. The Truth can stand by itself.)
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To: Old North State

Then do it and let Holder refuse to prosecute. That’s a card in our hand.


46 posted on 06/29/2013 12:45:02 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: mandaladon

and the RATS, take another one in the.........HA ha!!!

47 posted on 06/29/2013 7:42:40 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Scrambler Bob
I don’t see any waiver of self incrimination here.

There is a long-established rule of court procedure which indicates that, with very few exceptions, the testimony of a witness for either side should only be considered reliable when it is subjected to cross-examination by the opposing side; neither side is allowed to introduce testimony from a witness which will not be available for cross-examination unless they can demonstrate either that the witness meets certain conditions that would justify a presumption of reliability, or that the adverse party is responsible for the witness' inability to testify. The Zimmerman case is an example of the latter: any statements that Trayvon Martin can be shown to have made could be admitted by the prosecution because George Zimmerman's actions, whether legal or not, caused Trayvon Martin to be unavailable for cross-examination.

48 posted on 06/30/2013 10:29:08 AM PDT by supercat (Renounce Covetousness.)
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To: mandaladon
It's about time. I've been wondering about this matter and eagerly anticipating just reprisal.

You can't get up there, bend slightly at the waist, and stick your tongue out at a congressional committee saying, "nyaa, nyaa! I'm innocent and you can't examine me!"

Seems you have a few questions to answer, ma'am.

49 posted on 07/01/2013 12:21:38 AM PDT by Lexinom
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